Defunct Spy Satellite Falling From Orbit, page 3
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reply posted on 27-1-2008 @ 07:41 AM by hildar
I just hope this sat. does not come down on someones country and kill hundreds of folks. Or the US will be in some deep crap. We need to realize if it is hazardous and maybe has nuclear stuff in it. That would be like landing a nuclear bomb on someone. I dont even want to imagine if it lands in the ocean how man fish and marine life may die from the hazardous crap in it. And if it goes into the ocean water what effects will it have on the fish we eat every day?

These are just a few things the US government needs to sit back and tell us. It seems like we are killing the planet off little by little but I would hate to see something that may be toxic land in another country and maybe kill hundreds or thousands and maybe scar the rest of there country for years with birth defects ect. Seems to me that the government needs to stop sending toxic crap into space if it may come down some day and kill or destroy. But then again I forgot the US thinks they are God. Yep they do. I read it the other day. And I was sickened to even be a citizen after reading a reply that the government gave a man after he told a government secret to the media. "You are messing with GOD" There exact words.

As for the US maybe shooting this thing down before it hits earth. We need to realize maybe they cant do it since it may have some sort of Nuclear crap in it and that would make it even worse then if it crashes. But still the US needs to start realizing what goes up must come down sooner or later. Its a scientific thing yet they are to stupid to realize it. I guess they were out bullying kids around when they were teaching that in school.

But as of this moment we dont know what is on the sat. to make it toxic, So we can only theorize what may happen. But either way if it came down on land and killed people or made people sick. We need to open up our eyes and look at the bigger picture. Like the fact that there are many more in space that could land on our heads. Or even on our families.

Hilda


reply posted on 27-1-2008 @ 07:59 AM by anhinga
...didn't realize these things caused problems over the years, almost hitting a airliner? Does radar work, is there communication going on? U.S. failing to tell other states about incoming objects? This is treasonous, which is maybe why *they* are telling 'us' this time.

A LARGE American spy satellite has lost power and is expected to crash back to Earth sometime late next month. The 10-ton satellite’s controllers admit that they do not know where it might come down and they have no way of controlling the return of a vehicle which may contain hazardous materials.

The spokesman refused to speculate on the possibility that the satellite may be shot down by a missile to prevent any debris causing damage.

...the lack of certainty over the reentry location of this dying spy in the sky, not to mention the risk from any poisonous materials that it may be carrying, underlines the threat the satellite poses as it plunges from its orbit 100 miles above the Earth.

Last year 270 passengers on board an airliner above the Pacific had a lucky escape when the wreckage of a blazing Russian satellite narrowly missed their aircraft.

The most dangerous satellite disaster came in January 1978 when a fireball streaked through the skies of western Canada, heralding the demise of a Russian spy satellite. The remains of the satellite came down over Great Slave Lake and fell across the North West Territories, Alberta and Saskatchewan spreading mildly toxic radioactive waste.

In the subsequent furore the then Canadian prime minister, Pierre Trudeau, accused the United States of failing to warn the Ottawa government of the impending danger.


www.timesonline.co.uk...


reply posted on 27-1-2008 @ 09:08 AM by tevis69
reply to post by StarNeon



ummm... wtf are you talking about? Reptillians and asteriods sent by the "creator"? Calrification please... and some evidence for your belief in this...

And I thought Reptillians threads/posts were limited to the skunkworks forum?


reply posted on 27-1-2008 @ 09:47 AM by Sky watcher
reply to post by goosdawg



Well lest hope so. Our government does not take chances like that though. Anytime something crashes here on earth from space our government is on the seen pretty quick. It happened in Orlando not to long ago, Allot of people heard it crash and NASA and the military were on the site very fast and didn't let anyone get near it. The local radio DJ was screaming about it for months.


reply posted on 27-1-2008 @ 11:56 AM by newworldnews2007
reply to post by pierreletrek



ahm yup its one of them spy sats always use nuke energy so ...... bit weird that they have no fail save in this thing they normally have always those fail saves in spy sats so they will not fall in enemy hands if crashed on earth in a foreign country

lets see what happens



"It was not clear how long ago the satellite lost power, or under what circumstances." BULLLL becouse they always know what their spy sats do thats why its a spy sat they use it to monitor 24/7 meaning they know how and what always than again they have computers that monitor every move of every part of the sat so bull what the person says there.




"The satellite, which no longer can be controlled, could contain hazardous materials, and it is unknown where on the planet it might come down, they said." BULL becouse they can calculate its trajectory if they could do this with the so called Apollo stuff and go to the moon "if they went" long time ago they can do that now also duuh, than also they know exactly what it contains, they made it not?? unless its a alien satellite coming from "Dulce"



"The officials spoke on condition of anonymity because the information is classified as secret." HAHA what secret we know don't we? secret is when people don't know about it news knows we know ATS knows for sure lol

i wanted to ad that if they are so behind with the knowledge they have now ,and cant even calculate the trajectory of this satellite how can we be sure to be safe from the things coming from space like the Rock that will come on the 29th this month the size and so on they can from what i can read not even calculate the trajectory of this sat,,, makes me thinking...

www.reentrynews.com...
no info here about this sat ups i forgot its secret heh

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reply posted on 27-1-2008 @ 12:08 PM by XFoxMulderX
reply to post by TXMACHINEGUNDLR




Yeah, I was talking about it this morning and made a comment similar to yours.


reply posted on 27-1-2008 @ 01:04 PM by PhloydPhan
Just an FYI to anyone interested in a more professional forensic analysis of this situation: there's an ongoing discussion on this subject over at the NASA Spaceflight forums. There's been plenty of chiming in from people in the Aerospace industry, as well as some interesting photographs taken through telescopes of what, apparently, is the object in question.


reply posted on 27-1-2008 @ 02:10 PM by xmotex
The reason it's not being shot down I suspect is that's it's powered by an RTG - not a "reactor" precisely: Radioisotope Thermoelectric Generator. It generates it's power from radioactive decay, not fission.

The RTG's made for satellites are made to survive reentry and impact without releasing their radioactive contents.

They are NOT made to survive being hit by a Mach 20+ ASAT.

The concern is likely that shooting it down is likely to increase the danger from radioactive contamination, which outweighs the danger posed by the intact remains of the satellite.


reply posted on 27-1-2008 @ 02:20 PM by PragueSpring
reply to post by StarNeon



um...what?

Seriously, though, if Skylab can take a dive and leave nothing but:



and a $400 fine that Australia slapped the US for littering (not kidding), then the chances that this sat comes down anywhere with a bang are slim to none. Although, if it did, I've got my fingers crossed that it comes down square on top of Lockheed Martin (or whoever built the thing) if not for anything except the sheer irony of it all.

Obviously, then, the issue becomes what chems are onboard (which other posters have already touched on) and what effects can be expected once they hitch a ride on the jet stream, or at what quantities will they become dangerous after being dispersed around the globe.
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