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BREAKING NEWS: Military Offers Explanation For Stephenville UFO Reports

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posted on Jan, 24 2008 @ 09:14 AM
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FYI, AOL just had the story on their page, and I was pleased to see that not one commenter believed at bit of what the Military said.

This is encouraging,as I would expect us here to deny their ignorance, but to see the general public calling BS on the military is nice to see.

P.S.

My last duty station in the Military was at Naval Air Station Oceania, in Virginia.

I know what military jets look like, and sound like.

Further, 10 F-16's with lets say 50 feet of space between them would only form a line 800 feet from wing tip to wingtip with a width of only 49 feet, as the average F-16 is 49 feet long and 31 foot wingspan....

How dumb does the military think we are?




posted on Jan, 24 2008 @ 09:22 AM
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What point are you trying to make omni, you seem to be the only skeptic here and to be grasping at thin air. BTw the english channel sighting occured some months ago and there is plenty of info. on the subject here at ats.



posted on Jan, 24 2008 @ 09:29 AM
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I don't know which is scarier or infuriates me more, the possibility that the Air Force can just "lose track" so conveniently of 10 fighter jets, or that they're doing a horrible job of lying. It would've been more convincing had they stated they were testing blimps, lol, something big and silent that can hover, such as the witnesses described.

"Oh yeah Bob, didn't we send out 10 fighters to train a few hours ago?"
"Yup, Jerry, ya know, I forgot all about those guys. You think that could be why we're getting so many calls about UFO's?"
"Well, let's just screw up the flight logs and stuff so there's a bunch of confusion later on."
"Ok."

UFO's reported. AF says not us. More UFO reports. AF says, hey, ya know, that was us! Sorry, we forgot to tell each other there were training missions going on in a training area where UFO reports are coming from!

Same old story. Sorry, I don't buy it. Had to vent, because it's always the same old song and dance with these guys.



posted on Jan, 24 2008 @ 09:29 AM
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This news was just posted in Google 40 minutes ago...

Texas UFO Video Emerges: Military Claims F-16's near Stephenville


www.nationalledger.com...


The video is on this page:
cbs11tv.com...
Man Claims To Have Video Of Alleged UFO

DUBLIN, Texas (CBS 11 News) ― The military now says it was training over Stephenville the night dozens of people reported seeing UFOs.

But a video surfaced yesterday of the so-called sighting.

The man who captured the alleged UFO did not want to be identified, so he handed the video over to Seven Allen, a private pilot.

In response to the military's explanation of the UFO sightings, Allen said, "It's terrible they can't keep track of ten F-16s better than that. I can tell you where my dog is at the moment."

In the video, the UFO constantly changes shape. "It probably has the ability to do what it pleases," Allen said.

The Mutual UFO Network looked at pictures of the video and said there was nothing remarkable about them.






[edit on 24-1-2008 by Palasheea]



posted on Jan, 24 2008 @ 09:33 AM
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I keep seeing posts that say something along the lines of "I wish these witnesses had proof." I wonder what courts ever did before pictures, video, and DNA evidence. Sounds like it would be really hard to prove beyond a reasonable doubt of anything. Witnesses used to be the bread and butter of proving anything to anyone; especially multiple witnesses that agree and hadn't talked to each other prior.

There's healthy skepticism, and there is absurd skepticism.

Absurd skeptics should, imo, be skeptical of themselves and their reasoning.



posted on Jan, 24 2008 @ 09:34 AM
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Maybe it was a UFO. What should the military do? Say if it was a vessel from a greatly advanced race and we actually have no defense against and maybe there is no 'contact' directly with alien races.

How would the 'vast' majority of people react to a 'threat'; something which we know very little about and are unable to defend ourselves against? Would there be mass panick? Mass suicides? Would economies collapse?

Maybe public disclosure is not a good idea...............



posted on Jan, 24 2008 @ 09:39 AM
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It looks like there are about 16 or 17 fighters on the flightline at Carswell in This Google Map photo Any idea how many of these they actually have? Just trying to place the idea of what percentage of their planes were in the air that night.



posted on Jan, 24 2008 @ 09:42 AM
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AS a A1C f-16 crew chief for 4 years in Mtn Home Idaho, I call BS.

like was said eariler, f-16s dont fly more then 4 or 6 in a formation for obvious reasons, anyways, Local residence of a military town arent gonna mistake a UFO for fighter airfcraft, seeing how most of the military guys try to hit on the local town girls and well, they like to show off with their knowledge and that same knowledge is past on, People are not gonna be dumb to craft based near them or that they are used to seeing.

F16s Are shaped like a arrow. Not a Cigar. and THEY HAVE LIGHTS! that BLINK, and an are loud. time to let the cat out the bag.

I worked on F-16s for 3 yearsand had cold training for a year on them and other aircraft including the f-117. Believe me Your gonna know if they are dogfighting, or chasing, or doing a training run ( WHICH NORMAL IS IN FLIGHT REFUELING OR LETTING LOOSE SOME CHAFF N FLARE, OR SOME DUMMY BOMBS ON A BOMBING RUN, LIKE F16S ARE DESIGNED FOR, LONG RANGES AIR SUPPORT, mAYBE IF THEY FELT IT THEY WILL USE THEIR F16S TO TRAVEL FROM ONE CAOST TO THE OTHER FOR A PAPER TRAINING EXCERSISE) , But guess what, F-16s Arent meant for Dogfighting EITHER, thats why they have F-15s, that extra engine provides some nice maneuverablity*( sue me ) Now if they were flying at night, Your gonna be like hey its a fighter jet! lol I had to sleep around things damn loud beasts no ices chance in hell are you gonna think its a UFO.

F-16s Are LOUD, not stealthy. UFOs are flying objects that cant be recognized

F-16s have Nav lights on the tail, on the left(red and Blue) an right wing tips, an on the right an left sides of the Intake. Not to mention if they land they have 2 hell of bright lights. Maybe if they were landing I could see, but military said they were conducting operations, unless that included landing and taking off as the flying V, or Operation Wastetime, I dont think this is what happened.

Not to forget that When a F-16 or many aircraft go into afterburn, Your see a nice Blue/green/orange flame out the arse-end, Even when Flying in full burn you will see the orange flame.

Cleary we have something up. And I smell tuna.





[edit on 24-1-2008 by Tranceopticalinclined]



posted on Jan, 24 2008 @ 09:45 AM
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Fox News just covered the military explanation and was pretty fair about it, here is the clip
video.google.com...

Also interesting:
www.star-telegram.com...

"They knew they were eventually going to have to tell the truth," Cherry said. "They concocted a ridiculous cover story in the beginning, but now they are coming closer to the truth with another cover story."

Several of the approximately 50 witnesses said they saw fighter jets trying -- and failing miserably -- to catch up to the strange aircraft.

Some said the unidentified flying object was up to a mile long and hundreds of yards high. Others described seeing two to eight lights that flew in formation, changed color and shined with an intensity greater than a welding flame.

One witness who reported seeing military jets chasing a UFO was Steve Allen, a pilot and owner of a freight company in Glen Rose.

"We're on the money 100 percent," Allen said after learning of the military's statement. "Something is going on, and we know about it. It's time for the government to start talking about it."


What's funny is that the military expects us to believe that what 50 witnesses actually saw was just a couple of fighter jets going by, and that they dreamed up that they were chasing a huge unknown object.





[edit on 24-1-2008 by Grey Basket]



posted on Jan, 24 2008 @ 10:51 AM
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I've been reading about ufos for years and have often thought they were just military craft in various stages of development and at various stages of secrecy.

Lately, and especially with the behaviour of the military itself, I've been wondering if some of these crafts might possibly be some other countries military operations. Perhaps spying on us and testing our capabilities and responses. Not an earthshaking revelation I know, but it just hadn't occured to me before. It seems like an event is reported like in TX, and then all sorts of military activity is seen - flyovers, chases, searches, etc.

What do you all think of this fellows work?(Bruce Cornet) website below

www.unifiedworlds.com...

It takes time for some of the stuff to load, but its interesting and recently updated.

If this has been covered already on ATS - please excuse -

Long time reader/lurker, but my 1st post



posted on Jan, 24 2008 @ 10:56 AM
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Listen to Ricky Sorrells Audio Interview. He mentions the military jets flying back and forth as if they were searching for something.



posted on Jan, 24 2008 @ 11:04 AM
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Originally posted by credible_evidence
They did the same thing in the Phoenix sightings. When first asked about flights they say none took place in the night in question then 10 days later they come out with a large flight of A-10's in the area during the same time.

Here we are 11 years later in Texas and they are saying the same things days after the the event even though they originally said they had nothing flyng that night. This is BS protocol and the disinformation button was pushed just as it was in Phoenix. 10 f-16's from a navy base??? Sorry dont buy it. Navy doesnt use F-16's

[edit on 23-1-2008 by credible_evidence]


I concur, it's silly even, if 10 (ten!) F16s make an overfly in formation (their explanation to why the object appeared very large) there is such a deafening sound people would throw themselves on the ground. This large object was completely silent, followed by two F16 fighters.

However it could be an illusion if a group of 7-8 planes did an overfly supersonic speed followed by 2-3 planes, that way the boom and sound would follow after the planes, and you dont identify the group/formation with the sound but with the two following planes instead. Plausible?



posted on Jan, 24 2008 @ 11:18 AM
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Here's something I don't understand:

I just watched the video from:

cbs11tv.com...

Which truly is weird looking and identified by Allen as the "real deal" and it certainly doesn't look like airplanes.

So why is it that all the other claimed videos and photos of this event show just lonely small white or black dots? Do they have anything to do with this claimed low flying mile wide UFO?



posted on Jan, 24 2008 @ 11:28 AM
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Although I mentioned this in my earlier post I cant help feel the Military changing their story has a role in this.. they make a statement to the effect that nothing 'they' had was in the air and then later they say they did... Surely they have checked their facts before they make a statement in the first place otherwise they could have said nothing which they are entitled to do.... but to then change their story is BS... and makes me question their motives for this change in story.. are they trying to be obvious? are they trying to be obvious that these are not f16's? I don't know.. just questions.

And although I don't discount the idea it's one of ours... it does beg the question why so close to a town? if its some big secret why test it in such a populated place?



posted on Jan, 24 2008 @ 11:36 AM
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It's time for the government to tell us the truth. No one believes you anymore, Uncle Sam. Tell us the truth and let the chips fall where they may. We've got to stop acting like cowards about the unexplained and stand up on our hind legs and face whatever happens head on.



posted on Jan, 24 2008 @ 11:41 AM
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after watching the video it is clearly obvious that what you are seeing are chevrons for a gate address.



posted on Jan, 24 2008 @ 11:47 AM
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What a load of crap. Saw a clip on the morning show that what everybody saw was some F-16's. They followed with the rock figure on Mars and everybody chuckled. Just like Roswell and other sightings. Keep changing the story and mock all of the eye witnesses. I hope this one finally backfires on them. F-16's don't silently hover at treetop level and aren't hundreds of yards long. They need to come clean and disclose and stop treating everybody like liars and fools.



posted on Jan, 24 2008 @ 11:48 AM
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This my first ATS post, so be gentle...

Firstly, I think some might be giving the military too much credit...for brains that is.

If we are to believe that this entire drama was indeed caused by a secret military test vehicle, then what kind of loon military brass, would order such a vehicle to be tested in an area like this? Even if we can accept that such an aircrfat could have just veered off course, and ened up there, why would the original test area be anywhere near a populated spot to begin with? America sure doesn't lack for a million isolated places to conduct activities in complete secrecy.

Then we have the theory this might all be staged to gather data on media and public reaction. Again, the poll numbers have stated over and over again, what the general population thinks about the possibility of alien life, and whether it's possible earth may have ever been visited before. It seems like this would be a huge waste of effort, to gather information that is more or less established. If they wanted to see how folks might react to a so-called "invasion" fleet, I would think that you'd want to throw up quite a few more objects in the sky, instead of just one...be it a mile long or not. Now that might really turn a few heads.

But after the endless mud in their faces from their constantly changing Roswell explanations, I would think that somebody would have stood up and said "they aint gonna guy the F-16 story, gents"

On the media thing...I have always wondered what would happen, if someone was to deliver to all the major news outlets, both tv and print, a box of ultra classified videos, documents, and photos, which disclosed in the greatest of detail, that we have been visited by non earth enties for generations, and that the US (and other) governments have been duping us all our lives. Would said media outlets have the nerve to broadcast this data? Or would they be terrified of the consequences by the powers that be? Could they supress the story of the century, if not all-time, out of fear?

They are the ones who claim to be the truth-seekers, so why aren't they going after the real truth here, with the same vigor they go after a corrupt politician?



posted on Jan, 24 2008 @ 11:49 AM
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Originally posted by William One Sac
Doesn't the military realize this just makes people more suspicious? To say that there were no jets in the area, and now to recount that by saying there was a major training exercise going on is ludicrous.



[edit on 1-23-2008 by William One Sac]


Well....o.k. lets look it this way. Yes the "general" was correct in saying they had mistaken the operations logs or what ever in the hell they call them. And yes those F-16's were there and thats all fine. But they were there escorting the mile long "unspecified" craft is what they were doing there. Sorta plauseable truth...Yes we had operations and yes those people saw the F-16's and we just won't tell you that they were escorting one of our top secret craft in that area. Was it a U.F.O...You bet your sweet a$$ it was. Was it of alien origin? I lean to no...Did we build this design on something we found from alien origin I say yes i.m.o.



posted on Jan, 24 2008 @ 11:49 AM
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Interesting video and fits to the description of witnesses as "light show". This video deserves an own thread to get attention.



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