BREAKING NEWS: Military Offers Explanation For Stephenville UFO Reports

Originally posted by Diplomat
Just because people SAY they saw a mile-long object *(Does Not)mean an actual, mile-long object was in the sky. You guys on this forum act like you saw the object yourselves, or at least have seen a clear video of it. Did I miss that part? Because I'm pretty sure none of you have seen the object or a clear video of the object.*

*Changed to add emphases.

Sorry Diplomat, above is what I was refering to.

Refering to the above quote: "Did I miss that part?" "Because I'm pretty sure none of you have seen the object or a clear video of that object."

What you are suggesting it that over 200 witnesses did not see what they saw, yet you were not there either. What evidence do you have to question what they saw? And why is it wrong if we believe them?

OK, let's analyze what we do know. 200 people came forward and discribe a very large object in the sky. Some say as big as one mile wide. The Airforce has not explained what it was the witnesses saw, and initially denied reports that F-16's were even in the air. Then they retract the part about no F-16's in the air, but still don't explain what the large object was, and then come back and say we did have 10 F-16's in the air sorry for the mix up, and that is probably what you saw is thier implication. Now on top of all that you have 10 F-16's in the air, in the area, and they didn't see anything. Sorry.

I'll take the word of 200 people before I take the word of the government thank you.

No hostility or offense intended Diplomat. That is mind control pure and simple.

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[edit on 23-1-2008 by seawolf197]

Maybe the 10 f-16's were training on how to shoot down UFO's for when the invasion comes

Thats quite a typical lame excuse from the Air Force.

However whats even more lame is most of the public (if they've even heard of the event) will believe it.

As an experiment, I asked 8 family members across the country if they had heard of this incident. Out of the 8, only one had heard of it and thought it was just another misidentified plane. None of them will bother to follow up on the incident, they simply dont care.

As my Uncle stated "so what, even if it was an alien craft, how does this change my life ? I will still have to go to work tomorrow. I will still have to pay my bills."

My family just doesnt care if the goverment is lying to them. I try to explain the world implications of suppressed technology saving the planet, etc but they dont believe it.

This is absolutely fantastic news, first the military comes out and says no activity in the area that night. Fine. Now they are trying to say they were mistaken and there were F-16s buzzing around everywhere. To me this is just as good as an admittance to an extraordinary craft being in the area.

NOW......we have two incidents in the Southwest in the last 10 years spotting these huge craft......really unbeleivable. Anyone care to venture a guess as to were they were going. My guess, area 51. You know I truly never before beleived in some of these conspiracies about secret space programs and what not, but now it really makes me wonder. Even if these craft were not a mile long as said, for people to make a judgement like that, it would have to make the craft pretty darn big. What else could they be using craft of that size for??? It would seem to me the only practical use for a craft that large would have to be space based missions.

reply to post by pompano


which makes u wonder even more.. if it is a military plane for space based missions.. what kind missions are they performing? What purpose? Why the secrecy

reply to post by admriker444


Oh this is funny, on the flip side of your post, I had people come up to me, and say: "Did you see that UFO story in Texas?" "I immediately thought of you." What?

True story. Maybe I talk too much, but they were a little more aware when they saw the story.

Hey, it's what I do.

Actually I've come up with a theory. Someone made a comment earlier about how no vehicle on Earth was that big, not even aquatic. So, I got to thinking about what someone of the biggest vehicles we do have, and that led me to aircraft carriers. So, what's to say that this giant craft was not some kind of airborne aircraft carrier? It would certainly give us an advantage in war if we could deploy fighters and bombers right into the battle along with having to go a much shorter distance for refuels. This could mean that the Air Force report is truthful in that there were 10 F-16s out there and could account for why there some reports where people saw F-16s and some where they didn't. This is entirely speculation, but it seems to fit in with quite a few reports.

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As a matter of fact thats exactly what I was wondering, of course there could be lots of reasons, perhaps weapons on the moon, maybe they are just cleaning up old artifacts getting it ready for the the coming boom in space tourism and eventual habitation of the moon. I sure would love to know.

I am a healthy skeptic of what the government spews, but I do think more research needs to be done. Perhaps there has been some, but I don't see it on this thread.

Do we know how high it was? Do we know how fast it was moving? Did it make any quick direction changes?

What here, besides noise, indicates this was a spaceship, and not a new technology?

I do agree that the government is covering its tracks, but what are they covering? Aliens or new technology? I think that's the question.

So... what are the facts?

Giant Aircraft Carrier idea. I think this was noted in Popular Mechanic's assessment of the Stealth Blimp (as per its possible uses).

You fly these things across the ocean - they don't show up on radar (like normal aircraft carriers). You put them 50,000 feet in the air, and you have an airborne aircraft carrier. I think the way this thing works is it has some sort of helium-zepplin like technology to keep it floating in one place - and then switches to a more traditional propulsion system when it needs to fly long distances.

the facts as we know em are

10 F-16's where flying over Stephenville undercover of some huge
flying platform with wholes ...

I'd have thought those flyboys would have been playing sky soccer
bouncing something off radar.

Has anyone checked out the weather for strange doppler images over Texas?

Personally I can't imagine 10 F-16's flying together unless theres an invasion.

[edit on 23-1-2008 by Skydancer]

Hey, I just saw this in the user video section, and it isn't anything we haven't all seen before, but it does a good job at reminding us about the mind control that is going on. Notice how they smile and give body language of how stupid the story is at the beginning.



edit to post this link worked 10 minutes ago. What?



[edit on 23-1-2008 by seawolf197]

You know I would say "Aww, gotta love them for trying." But wow. I've seen 3 year olds come up with better explanations.

It was umm....these things and like planes and clouds and stars and a meteor and a balloon and like fifty ninjas in the sky.

Totally legit.

Ok, so we know the government is lying to us. They have been since day one. (for our own good of course)
What do we do about it?

I think the problem we really face here is that the public DOES believe or at least wants to, but when given some type of explanation (even terrible ones like 10 F-16's or swamp gas) people accept it because the alternative is such a twist in someone's worldview. As I asked above... Now what? So it is an alien UFO or a government secret project. What now? I personally think it's important for the evolution of our consciousness, but with the PTB it's a tough battle...

The media is controlled. The governments are controlled. The corporations are controlled. How do we have a voice?

I think ATS should start it's OWN Internet News service. Real interviews... real debates. Real dialog. Beyond podcasts. REAL alternative news! We have enough people doing the research and a diverse enough group that I think it could happen.

What say you?

Peace,
Jammer+

I just talked to my husband about this, he is at work - he didnt even know about the incident - and this is his response to me. He is active duty Air Force. Now, this is just his thoughts on it based on what he knows. Take it or leave it Just something to ponder

When he says "guard base?" it is in reference to 301st Fighter Wing, Carswell AFB

Guard base? I thought that base was closed down due to BRAC. Also,
there is a lot of F-16's that escort missiles during test phases.
That's really all you see at Edwards. The missile would be silent and
look like a UFO. What happens is during a test phase they launch
missiles and to make sure they don't lose course they are escorted by
F-16's to shot them down if they veer off track. That's probably what
they saw, honestly who has ever seen a missile in mid flight? Not many.
The last one I saw is when I was on leave at my dad's house he took me
on a tour of the wind facility in Cali and they were doing test launches
and had F-16's escort them. I could see from a distance it would look
like a ufo being chased

edited to add his additional comments...hes obviously at work thinking about all of this now LOL

Also, to practice on Air to Air combat they have remote flying F-4's and
even though they are loud, mostly at a cruising speed, it would like it
was gliding with very little noise.

[edit on 24-1-2008 by greeneyedleo]

reply to post by Frank Warren


There is no coverup. Some military exercises are classified. Do you really want our enemies to know our strategies or classified weapons? The way we train? It was simply a classified training of some sort.

I take the words of a high ranking military officers over bored civilians any day... They were bored. They saw missiles and jets. Their active imagination, paranoia and boredom got the best of them so they make up stories about a mile long ufo being chased by F16s. They needed attention so people can go to Stephenville and spend some money there. Instant fame, money and UFO tourism...

There was no UFO. Just military planes and missiles...




[edit on 24-1-2008 by omnicron]

reply to post by greeneyedleo


I was fortunate to witness a test firing of a cruise missile years ago, early 80's, near lake Elsinore, Ca.

I just happened to look up and there it was, heading west.

Not very high up, and I recognized what it was from it's profile, and it did make some noise.

This was during daylight hours, bright clear day, and yeah, now that you mention it, there were two jets higher up, tracking it as it went over.

It wasn't until a few days later that it was confirmed in the media that there had indeed been a test firing.

Wow, hadn't thought about that in years.

In all my life I have never seen a UFO. I spend almost 60% of my life on the open view of the sky, I work outside, like I say never seen a UFO.

I still believe that UFO are real when I see these people tell thier story I believe them. To tell you the truth I don't care if there are Aliens out there, what I do care is about the truth, the truth will set us free.

Sometime I have doubts on stories could people be lying to me? I wonder some time if they are making stories so I or anybody else believe in Aliens.

Lets break down this concept. Lets look at all the media about UFO. lets go back to the begining of civilization and all of them speak of an Alien beings, gods, entities, ghost, and until today we still believe in all those elements.

Now lets go foward in the early 20's the revolution of the cinema that brought us the modern day sci-fi lifestyle, sorry going out, what I am trying to get is are we program to believe in UFO or are we uncounciosly (mispelled) know that we are not origanally from this planet and we have brother out this planet.

Most people believe that the answere to our quest in this planet we be reveal when we die. For years I believe that, then I started to understand science and evolution it was a new understanding of life to me. Then some christian person told me "do you really believe in evolution" at that moment I said yes but deep in my heart I knew that I didn't believe on that.

Now this Alien thing is a new understandin for me of what life is about. At least is a quick fix I dont have to wait until I die and I don't have to wait for 10 thousand years to prove that evolution does exist. My point here is really basic UFO Alien is becoming a new religion whithout a spiritual sense. That is why I keep my feet on both side.

That's all folk........

While this really is just the crap du jour from the U.S.A. government, it is worth noting how US Americans compartmentalise these sorts of things as "a problem with the Air Force" or "a problem with NASA" or some other branch of government. More US Americans need to see that the problem is their entire government in every aspect, and barring a complete redemption of the USA through the efforts of people like Ron Paul, Naomi Wolf, et al., this US government deserves the destruction that its enemies desire to bring to it.

Would that ordinary US Americans would awaken from their slumber and their fluoride-induced docility.

What a coincidence that they finally got their "paperwork" in order only after the period in which any new audiovisual evidence would have probably already come to light, eh?! Kind of makes me suspicious about the person who was offering a cash reward for evidence (I had only heard of this proposition vaguely, so apologies if that person is completely legit). If there was an information mix-up (unlikely, imo, given the scope of the exercise/claimed involved equipment), they've no doubt had the information regarding the exercise in order for a while now, so why wait until today for the release? I think they just wanted to increase the odds that their ridiculous cover story (lies, rather) wouldn't fall apart in the face of some new evidence...

As someone else said, I believe there was something much more interesting in the sky that night than conventional aircraft, so for me it's just a question of whether the tech. was ours or not. If we had such a massive craft that could really accelerate/move according to some of that witness testimony, even that kind of tech. would be largely suspect of being back-engineered from something that isn't ours void of any relative scientific breakthroughs known in the public domain...

[edit on 24-1-2008 by AkumaStreak]