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Gen 2:9 And out of the ground made the LORD God to grow every tree that is pleasant to the sight, and good for food; the tree of life also in the midst of the garden, and the tree of knowledge of good and evil.
Rom 4:15-16 Because the law worketh wrath: for where no law is, there is no transgression. Therefore it is of faith, that it might be by grace; to the end the promise might be sure to all the seed; not to that only which is of the law, but to that also which is of the faith of Abraham; who is the father of us all.
Rom 5:19-21 For as by one man's disobedience many were made sinners, so by the obedience of one shall many be made righteous. Moreover the law entered, that the offence might abound. But where sin abounded, grace did much more abound: That as sin hath reigned unto death, even so might grace reign through righteousness unto eternal life by Jesus Christ our Lord.
Rom 6:14 For sin shall not have dominion over you: for ye are not under the law, but under grace.
Gal 2:21 I do not frustrate the grace of God: for if righteousness come by the law, then Christ is dead in vain.
Gal 5:4 Christ is become of no effect unto you, whosoever of you are justified by the law; ye are fallen from grace.
Tit 2:11 For the grace of God that bringeth salvation hath appeared to all men,
Eph 2:8-9 For by grace are ye saved through faith; and that not of yourselves: it is the gift of God: Not of works, lest any man should boast.
Originally posted by melatonin
Where are you pulling your assertions from?
They wouldn't know that death was bad, or that disobedience was bad.
I also thought death didn't happen until after the great snake swindle, that all animals ate plants and it was all like some big hippy love in.
Originally posted by AshleyD
I heard it was more like a fraction of an ounce or a few ounces- not seven pounds. lol Regardless, it could be fifty pounds for all I care. I'd still have a hard time believing the soul can be measured by earthly instruments. Those few ounces are probably just gas and air.
If thats the case then why did god give us the capability to ask the questions of how and why if he doesn't like it? Seems a bit nonsensical to me.
Originally posted by TheOracle
The knowledge is simply the science and technology. It is asking How and Why which God doesn't like as we start questioning Him. When we start questioning everything, then Evil appears, shifts and discord are born.
Probably not. I doubt you would even live long enough to enjoy 'paradise'
Wouldn't we live in Paradise if we didn't start asking all these questions a long time ago?
Originally posted by Sparky63
I do enjoy your posts my friend, they are well thought out and thought provoking.
“It [the knowledge of good and bad] is the power of deciding for himself what is good and what is evil and of acting accordingly, a claim to complete moral independence . . . The first sin was an attack on God’s sovereignty.”
(1 Timothy 2:14) 14 Also, Adam was not deceived, but the woman was thoroughly deceived and came to be in transgression.. . .