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Topic started on 31-8-2007 @ 09:16 PM by Ed Littlefox
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Mr. Marrs,
Based on your works over the long haul with "The War on Freedom", do you believe that a declaration of Martial Law is immanent in the US and do you
think such an order will be carried out by the Joint Chiefs? Do you think the majority of the American People will stand still for it. What do you
think the reaction to such an order will likely be?
Thank You, and welcome to ATS
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reply posted on 4-9-2007 @ 04:55 PM by Jim Marrs
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Howdy Ed,
Gen. Tommy Franks stated that in the event of a new major terrorist strike, the US would go under martial law. The legislation, directives and
policies are all in place as are the FEMA detention centers. Unfortunately, the military officers who would likely object to this have been weeded out
and replaced with compliant minions. The only reason we are not under martial law at this moment is the fact that so many Americans have guns. So the
persons who desire martial law will have to carefully and craftily produce a scenario (most probably a nuclear or biological strike in the heart of
the country) that will stampede the population into compliance.
Jim Marrs
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reply posted on 4-9-2007 @ 07:51 PM by Ed Littlefox
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Thank you, Mr. Marrs.
I want to pursue this further and open the thread to others with questions/discussion on this topic.
Let me ask you if you believe, as I do, that the National Identification System (RFID) and NAIS programs will necessarily be in place before a
declaration of Martial Law can be truly effective?
Being a Livestock Farmer, I likely know a great deal more about the NID/NAIS RFID chipping program than most Americans. For instance, Americans have
been flat out lied to regards the Chips, as they CAN be read and tracked by Satellite. There is a very strong movement in America by Farmers against
both of these programs, as we strongly believe that they are a two-pronged attempt to control the Food Supply and Restrict and Track Movement.
I'd like to hear your views on this, Mr. Marrs.
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reply posted on 19-9-2007 @ 08:24 PM by plumranch
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NID/NAIS RFID chipping program than most Americans. For instance, Americans have been flat out lied to regards the Chips, as they CAN be read and
tracked by Satellite.
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Hi Ed, I'm a little late here, but tell me more about the chips you are talking about. I use Home Again and Avid chips in my practice and have
lots of experience with using them and the problems with them. Are my chips like the ones you are concerned about. My guess is they are similar. I
can't read my chips with my equipment from further that a few inches.
Tell me about the evidence that chips can be tracked by satelites, pls. Thanks!
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reply posted on 19-9-2007 @ 08:49 PM by scientist
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Are my chips like the ones you are concerned about. My guess is they are similar. I can't read my chips with my equipment from further that a few
inches.
Tell me about the evidence that chips can be tracked by satelites, pls. Thanks!

most likely, no. The type of RFID you are working with are called passive. Basically, the reader supplies the energy needed to transmit the data, and
the act of reading is what supplies power to the chip. Currently, I am not aware of an RFID reader that can read an active chip from more than 10-20
ft away. In fact, most are under 3ft. I work with many types of passive RFID. I actually develop software and hardware systems that make use of
RFID (but not for sinister reasons, I promise!)
I would assume that regardless of how far the chips can be read (active / passive) the technology is the same, therefore the use is the same. It's
like comparing a solar light with a regular electrical/battery powered light.
Essentially, an RFID chip is just a serial number - and eventually the equivalent of a hard drive (or perhaps more). It's the software, and use of
the info (tracking, etc.) that could be used for malicious reasons.
I hope to see this thread develop into an informative collaboration.
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reply posted on 19-9-2007 @ 11:29 PM by plumranch
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hope to see this thread develop into an informative collaboration
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Hi Scientist, My hopes too. I was listening to C2C last week and a lady was bad mouthing the chips. One of her main points was how cancer
causing they were. Well, I haven't seen a case of cancer associated with a chip and I think I would have caught it because I always send tumors in
the subcuticulum in the implant area for histopathic analysis. I had one chip associated with an abscess that had to be drained. I had one chip that I
implanted and it was non functional so I had to put in another chip. I have never had a chip misread or read the wrong number. Chipping is
increasingly popular esp. in dogs. I have been a busy practitioner since well before the chip era. So I say chips have a permanent place in the dog
would. Of course they could be used in almost any companion animal species and I do them all.
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reply posted on 19-9-2007 @ 11:41 PM by benevolent tyrant
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I have heard that there was some research done on RFID chips in animals. The results of these studies is disturbing, to say the least.
 A series of veterinary and toxicology studies, dating to the mid-1990s, stated that chip implants had "induced" malignant tumors in some lab
mice and rats SOURCE
While animal physiology does differ from humans and the animal research does not conclusively demonstrate that the RFID chips would necessarily mean a
cancer risk for humans, it is a cause for alarm.
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reply posted on 19-9-2007 @ 11:51 PM by benevolent tyrant
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Originally posted by Jim Marrs
The only reason we are not under martial law at this moment is the fact that so many Americans have guns. 
I am pleased that you expressed this sentiment so clearly, Mr. Marrs. I don't say this simply because I believe in the Right to Bear arms but
because I genuinely feel that this is fact.
I also believe that the "dumbing" down of America within the American "educational" system, the failed US War on Drugs and the "big business of
Prisons" are all part of making certain that Americans live within a framework of fear. Crime statistics have been manipulated to make crime seem
rampant and that gun crime is the cause. All this in the planned effort to convert the American people to believe that guns must be eliminated for
our well-being.
Why? To make people more compliant and amenable to give up their Right to Bear Arms. Once this happens, the "government" can finally do with us as
they want.
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reply posted on 20-9-2007 @ 02:42 AM by plumranch
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While animal physiology does differ from humans and the animal research does not conclusively demonstrate that the RFID chips would necessarily mean a
cancer risk for humans, it is a cause for alarm.
 Hi Ben,
Thanks for your post. You are getting close to the central issue here re cancer. The chip caused some (don't know how much) cancer in lab animals, I
personally have not observed cancer and since I am close to the issue have not read of problems in my literature, nor have you, and in the human
literature, no cancer in 2000 implants. My guess is that we could do larger studies in humans and there wouldn't be significant problems.
Remember that back when the brest implants were supposed to cause cancer? As I recall even when they reptured they were proven non carcinogenic. So I
will draw a probable parallel here!
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reply posted on 20-9-2007 @ 02:54 AM by plumranch
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The only reason we are not under martial law at this moment is the fact that so many Americans have guns.
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Hi Jim,
Probably just well controlled Americans occasionally under martial law but I agree generally! Makes me want to go out and increase my gun inventory!
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