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reply posted on 19-9-2007 @ 08:24 PM by plumranch

NID/NAIS RFID chipping program than most Americans. For instance, Americans have been flat out lied to regards the Chips, as they CAN be read and tracked by Satellite.
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post by Ed Littlefox

Hi Ed, I'm a little late here, but tell me more about the chips you are talking about. I use Home Again and Avid chips in my practice and have lots of experience with using them and the problems with them. Are my chips like the ones you are concerned about. My guess is they are similar. I can't read my chips with my equipment from further that a few inches.
Tell me about the evidence that chips can be tracked by satelites, pls. Thanks!


reply posted on 19-9-2007 @ 11:29 PM by plumranch

hope to see this thread develop into an informative collaboration
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post by scientist

Hi Scientist, My hopes too. I was listening to C2C last week and a lady was bad mouthing the chips. One of her main points was how cancer causing they were. Well, I haven't seen a case of cancer associated with a chip and I think I would have caught it because I always send tumors in the subcuticulum in the implant area for histopathic analysis. I had one chip associated with an abscess that had to be drained. I had one chip that I implanted and it was non functional so I had to put in another chip. I have never had a chip misread or read the wrong number. Chipping is increasingly popular esp. in dogs. I have been a busy practitioner since well before the chip era. So I say chips have a permanent place in the dog would. Of course they could be used in almost any companion animal species and I do them all.


reply posted on 19-9-2007 @ 11:41 PM by benevolent tyrant
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I have heard that there was some research done on RFID chips in animals. The results of these studies is disturbing, to say the least.

A series of veterinary and toxicology studies, dating to the mid-1990s, stated that chip implants had "induced" malignant tumors in some lab mice and rats SOURCE


While animal physiology does differ from humans and the animal research does not conclusively demonstrate that the RFID chips would necessarily mean a cancer risk for humans, it is a cause for alarm.



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reply posted on 20-9-2007 @ 02:42 AM by plumranch
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While animal physiology does differ from humans and the animal research does not conclusively demonstrate that the RFID chips would necessarily mean a cancer risk for humans, it is a cause for alarm.
Hi Ben,
Thanks for your post. You are getting close to the central issue here re cancer. The chip caused some (don't know how much) cancer in lab animals, I personally have not observed cancer and since I am close to the issue have not read of problems in my literature, nor have you, and in the human literature, no cancer in 2000 implants. My guess is that we could do larger studies in humans and there wouldn't be significant problems.

Remember that back when the brest implants were supposed to cause cancer? As I recall even when they reptured they were proven non carcinogenic. So I will draw a probable parallel here!


reply posted on 20-9-2007 @ 02:54 AM by plumranch

The only reason we are not under martial law at this moment is the fact that so many Americans have guns.
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post by Jim Marrs

Hi Jim,
Probably just well controlled Americans occasionally under martial law but I agree generally! Makes me want to go out and increase my gun inventory!


reply posted on 25-5-2008 @ 03:31 AM by Anonymous ATS
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Starting in 2011, Californian's will no longer be able to purchase ammunition for firearms. Crafty, isn't it? TBTB know we won't give up our guns. Solution? Outlaw ammo!!!!
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