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Originally posted by danx
Originally posted by kinda kurious
First, if they are hoaxed. Why should we believe the locations anyway?
If it's a hoax does it really matter where the location is? Maybe it's not even a real place.
If that's the case, I guess the only thing that matters is to learn from this, for the people that thought that this was the real thing, not to jump to conclusions next time we are presented with such a video.
I understand that the points you raise are only hypothetical and that you are trying to establish if the video is a hoax or not and I'm with you on that. Even though I believe the video to be fake, I think we should establish the video's veracity with some solid evidence to put this at rest for everyone.
You might be right. I suppose I will work on a cure for cancer. Another great lost cause.
I applaud you for pursuing this, although personally believing this search for the location to be a lost cause, that it won't produce any results.
When I am intrigued by a topic or debate, I force myself to view the opposing point of view. So, I researched 3D modeling software sites to see how easy/hard it is to duplicate trees. My results yielded the simple conclusion that it is an easy task to propagate an artificial landscape without simply "cloning" an existing model.
Originally posted by danx
If I understood correctly you are not with the 'cut and past tree crowd', so you believe that the trees aren't cloned, correct? But they are (very) similar, right?
Who is "he"? And I thought they were not "similar" but "identical".
Wasn't that what (apparently) was done? He created similar trees?
I don't accept anything except blank checks made out to my offshore banking account.
If we accept that the trees are also CGI, doesn't it fit exactly with what you're saying?
Originally posted by DrDil
Never mind........ My bad!!
[edit on 11-8-2007 by DrDil]
Sorted!!
Here's a short video of my take on them......
[edit on 11-8-2007 by DrDil]
Originally posted by Sataurë
There's really no clear-cut way to tell whats real and whats not (CGI), ESPECIALLY when the video has been re-encoded so many times and sized down to 320x240 like on youtube.
I mean, even the most professional physicists and people who study the fabric of reality can be fooled by the most mediocre of parlor magic tricks.
Similarly, even a CGI expert can sometimes be fooled or come to incorrect conclusions on determining CGI. And determining the reality of a video especially isn't facilitated by the resizing and lossy encoding of youtube videos which destroys the original integrity.
Cheers
[edit on 11-8-2007 by Sataurë]
Originally posted by kinda kurious
So back at ya in your own style. Point by point.
< In hollier-than-thou-voice.> And if it does turn out to be real, what lesson have you learned?
So my long answer to your question is I believe that the trees are organic living fauna. I belive the "beach scene" is real.
Who is "he"? And I thought they were not "similar" but "identical".
That was the claim wasn't it?
Shall we continue?
CAUTION: I have been drinking all day since my weed-whacker crapped out half-way through my lawn maintenance experience.
Originally posted by colz2000
So still do not know where I stand on this one.
Originally posted by SkepticOverlord
I'm returning the "HOAX" lable to the thread title.