the topic is on C2C right now..someone call them and tell them about Vue6..

the tree's are the same? arent they the same kind of tree's ? go look at some palm tree's see how simular they are to each other

as good as those palms look - they don't look as good as the video

i honestly think that's a live-action video with a 3D object composited and match-moved

it still looks real to me...

Ok, I did some reading of the local Haiti newspapers online written in french from augest 1st -11th 2007. There is no mention of this UFO event. Their was a mention by a Haiti cost gaurd commander today that he would have heard about if their was one and his wife is having a baby
which he would like everyone to know. Oh, and the commander is on the promotion list.

Well, I take it if this UFO event was true this news would take Hugo Chavez off the front pages.

one more thing. great vacations deals this month in Haiti. Bring a camera. and a notebook with the latest CGI and VU Software and get a tan on the beach.

Originally posted by SJE98
Ok, I did some reading of the local Haiti newspapers online written in french from augest 1st -11th 2007. There is no mention of this UFO event. Their was a mention by a Haiti cost gaurd commander today that he would have heard about if their was one and his wife is having a baby
which he would like everyone to know. Oh, and the commander is on the promotion list.

Well, I take it if this UFO event was true this news would take Hugo Chavez off the front pages.

Amazing this thread is still going. Even when all evidence is presented to the contrary, people still believe what they want. And for those comparing this to the drones, this is nothing like the drones at all.

well, i'm simply not totally conviinced - but, i'm looking at all the evidence presented here and i don't discount any of it

Ok, when I first saw this video, I thought Neat, radio controlled aircraft, then it was pointed out that the palm trees are identical ( I'm not so sure but OK, so then I went on my merry way, dum de dum...then, I was reading about this video on an other site and a comment there struck me as Odd, when the craft is right straight up the camera goes out of focus, as do the trees and such, any Idea how hard this would be to do with CG? I challenge any one out here to replicate that effect. I think you will find this an incredibly difficult task. I've seen palm trees that all looked alike before (29 palms cali) so I discount that as evidence, I will pay $1000 to anyone ( make a note springer cause I'm deadly serious ) that can replicate this effect on a home PC with CG software. If you think I am wrong about the Focus thing, try it for yourself, it's simple really make everything ( including the CG UFO ) all out of focus at the same time. I'm not saying these are alien craft, but I think your debunking methodology on this video are incorrect. It still may be fake, but the cost of this video would be quite High.

Ok, I don't understand how after the vue 6 demo was posted, tonnes of people chose to ignore the fact that the "footage" is 100% CGI.
That whole demo is about how Vue 6 creates realistic environments, with wind affecting the models, fakes clouds (The white cloud at the end is fake looking) and on top of all this, the comments about it looking too real is true.
For footage that good in such low light, you would need to be a 80k HD camera with lots of flood lights pointing up in the air to ketch the underside.
And the effect the maker wanted was a home movie type, where the cheap camera has auto focus (The auto focus would not change like it does in the video, because the objects are way out of range, plus the VUE 6 demo has all that shaky/blurry footage done already)

If this camera was real, it would not be able to pick up the detail for such a small little cam corder. ( And I doubt even the 80k HD cameras would get such detail in low light and great distance)

Originally posted by thedigirati
, but I think your debunking methodology on this video are incorrect. It still may be fake, but the cost of this video would be quite High.

Its fake! sorry but give up already.

Originally posted by thedigirati
Ok, when I first saw this video, I thought Neat, radio controlled aircraft, then it was pointed out that the palm trees are identical ( I'm not so sure but OK, so then I went on my merry way, dum de dum...then, I was reading about this video on an other site and a comment there struck me as Odd, when the craft is right straight up the camera goes out of focus, as do the trees and such, any Idea how hard this would be to do with CG? I challenge any one out here to replicate that effect. I think you will find this an incredibly difficult task. I've seen palm trees that all looked alike before (29 palms cali) so I discount that as evidence, I will pay $1000 to anyone ( make a note springer cause I'm deadly serious ) that can replicate this effect on a home PC with CG software. If you think I am wrong about the Focus thing, try it for yourself, it's simple really make everything ( including the CG UFO ) all out of focus at the same time. I'm not saying these are alien craft, but I think your debunking methodology on this video are incorrect. It still may be fake, but the cost of this video would be quite High.

Im glad you mentioned this. I noticed this myself but not being an expert on CGI or anything i didnt make comment. I did howvever sit there wondering what sort of program could give this blurred effect to everything.

I think the reason fake or not this footage has gained so much report on ATS, Youtube and many other sites is that it is so well done and it is absolutely captivating to say the least. I think if we were visited one day this would be the kinda thing i would expect to see. Fake or real its superb

Originally posted by drk3p
That whole demo is about how Vue 6 creates realistic environments, with wind affecting the models, fakes clouds (The white cloud at the end is fake looking) and on top of all this, the comments about it looking too real is true.

If this is made in Vue 6, what a killer way to advertise your software. With almost a million views on youTube (maybe more now), what better way to advertise your CGI software than for people to debate whether the footage made is real or fake? Maybe this video was made solely for that purpose as a viral campaign? All the movie studios and video game studios are doing it, so why wouldn't the software companies get on board? Think about it.

IMO it's so fake that it pains me to see people think otherwise, just like with that
Criss Angel discussion. I try to keep my mind open to a lot of unusual and weird
things... but not this crap =(

What I'd really like to know though, if its viral thingy, then is it for... Halo3 or Crysis?
Or if it's StarCraft2, as someone previously suggested, will Terrans and Zergs make
appearance too?! I'd certainly love to see that ^^. Zerglings pull people underground
and stuff lol. What do you guys think?

Based on the tropical location and the ship design I'm leaning towards Crysis.
Plus Halo3 already has that "Iris" thing going on. If this is part of it too
then they've got one hell of a campaign going... hope the game is worth it.

Also, my take regarding this being similar to the previously mentioned "Drone" reports...
I don't think they are related. Desing of the ships and the use of drasticly different,
and for that matter real(yea some people will of course argue this point), backgrounds
sets it apart from the current example. Maybe the same campaign being undertaken
by the different groups of people? Speculations, speculations....

Edit: Just saw pjslug's post about this being an advertisement for Vue6
software. Very likely... very lame =(



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Every time i watch the video it looks more and more real. I just watched the video again for like the 100th time and man i don't know how some think the palm trees are fake. That demo from vue6 doesn't mean anything it means you can create realistic environments with a program. That doesn't mean every realistic environment is computer generated.

I would think that the debunkers would simply try and prove the ships are fake instead they say the trees are fake. It looks like the orbs underneath the ship probably separate. Just a thought.