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Gordon Brown has banned ministers from using the word “Muslim” in connection with the terrorism crisis.
The Prime Minister has also instructed his team – including new Home Secretary Jacqui Smith – that the phrase “war on terror” is to be dropped.
The shake-up is part of a fresh attempt to improve community relations and avoid offending Muslims, adopting a more “consensual” tone than existed under Tony Blair. . . .
Mr Brown’s spokesman acknowledged yesterday that ministers had been given specific guidelines to avoid inflammatory language. “There is clearly a need to strike a consensual tone in relation to all communities across the UK,” the spokesman said. “It is important that the country remains united.”
Originally posted by Octavius Maximus
Gorman91- Do you have any idea how much people get pissed off when the 'Muslim Jihad hates freedom' bull# gets said?
Hell, i get annoyed at it and im an atheist.
War on Terror? Complete and utter trash. Its the US finding an excuse to use their pretty weapons against a country which can hardly fight back, and then calls the people terrorists when they fight back the only way they can (suicide bombing)
I just saw an interview with a US weapons researcher, it sickened me. He was literally excited when he said that the Iraq war gave them the chance to use their "Weapons of mass carnage against a live enemy" (His words, not mine.)
If you want a war on Terror you can also look in your own borders, remember the Oklahoma bombing? That was an act of Terrorism.
Also, labelling Muslims as Terrorists just pisses people off to no end. It just proves to me more how Justified the Modern crusade against Muslims is.
Anyway, i live in Australia. John Howard has passed many laws giving them powers such as being able to hold a person for 2 weeks without a warrant.
do i care? # no. They can listen to my conversations and cover the cities with CCTV. If they listen to my conversations all they are going to hear is me abusing telemarketers. If they watch me they will see me going places i enjoy.
If any of this catches a terrorist, or a murderer or a rapist or any kind of criminal, its money well spent.
Rant over, but not forgotten
Originally posted by stumason
Indeed. I've been nicked before, but was perfectly civil and polite. I ended up being treated very well, up to the point where I was given freedom to roam in and out of my cell to use the toilet or go for a smoke. A Policeman even joined me for a fag at one point!
You have voted Stumason for the Way Above Jack Dee Award. You have 2 more votes left this month
Most terrorists attacks in the past few years are from the middle east and not to the US, but the West in general. Open your eyes. There is no NWO, no secret world gov, no crazy folks. (ok, maybe a NWO, but it has already failed miserably)
The US is far too big and far too deverse in opinion to EVER be control by the gov. The gov can pass all the laws it wants, that doesn't mean anyone will follow them.
The terrorists are out there, and thank God for Europe as a shield. Yea it sounds cruel, but its true.
And the Iraq's have PLENTY to fight with. Anything from 30 year old USSR AK's from old storage centers to the tons of arms from hamas across the western border.
Do you defend the captivity of women in the east?
Just because an asshole is in command doesn't mean that the war is fake. its over oil, yes, but have you ever been there? Do you know what women go through? Do you know what people go through under the control of corrupt mosques that preach hate? The US screwed things up, yes, but that still doesn't mean that there is no war on terror.
You are blinded by you're little hole in the ground and your computer. Ask any refugee from Iraq what the truth is. Not over the Internet, in person.
Originally posted by neformore
After a few days of research, have a guess at how many camera's I pass on my 8 mile journey to work and back every day, and while I visit the local supermarket which is about 3 miles away from me.
Heres a clue. I don't live in London. Its 200 miles away from me.
Originally posted by citizen smith
There's a point that needs be made in this debate, and that is the difference between a Police State and a Surveillance State...while I agree with Stu's OP that the UK is certainly not the former, we are most definately living in a surveillance society.
Originally posted by andy1033
yep but, who watches the watchers.
Originally posted by Gorman91
With the USA out of the picture, NATO collapses without its biggest fund giver. Many nations in Europe begin to decay without US support. England is in all out riot by Muslim extremists. France could go into riot if the Muslim extremists aren't removed, but because today they are paying them to leave, France will likely go on. Denmark collapses via Muslim revolution. Eastern Europe collapses into fire because the US isn't there to stop anything. The UN is likely to collapse due to world wide stresses and the UN building has obviously been moved out of the US. the EU is likely to stay together, but lose members.
Originally posted by uknumpty
Sorry if this has been said but I believe its the case here in the UK that if you're arrested by the police and they take DNA swabs and then later release you without charge your details and DNA stay on their database.
Can a definition of a police state be one that keeps records on innocent people?