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[HOAX] Isaac CARET - Drones [HOAX]

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posted on May, 31 2008 @ 08:00 PM
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Sys, I don't believe everything I read or hear is true. Your words are noted and ring with truth.




posted on May, 31 2008 @ 08:01 PM
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Shot that one out of the sky


With all the connections that these PIs have one would think that they have a photo expert at their disposal..But what the heck its $100 an hour..

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posted on May, 31 2008 @ 09:06 PM
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Originally posted by Double_Nought_Spy
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I just love the following bit of "ufoology!" This is from the story linked by CF&M.

"What does Davis think now? For one, he believes the object in the photo is too intricate to be the work of a Photoshop scam artist. He’s searched high and low to determine what it may be, and talked with many doubters, but has yet to find a logical answer."

Three sentences that say more than all the drt verbiage combined!

Yes Double, Hmm is TK really in the graphics business? and he spoke to many doubters, but err were any of them photo specialists, I dont mean the Kmart 1 hour either, ..searched Hi and lo...was that for a cigarette, or stiff drink at Orileys , hmmnothing about submitting to a lab..of course Todd trayer, the servers adm would know about lab reports, especially DNA ones..he can provide one in a heartbeat, but that was years ago, and well..Hracing is more up their alley..You can take that to the bank.
Don't let ole timers fool you, they can spin a good yarn, and make it sound they have the goods on you, when they really don't.
Heck the point of all this is to make it look good, sound good, at least they have have enpough free t shirst to clothe santa monica by now, but I don't think, anyone but the DRT has bought any.

Aren't we horrible?



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posted on May, 31 2008 @ 10:03 PM
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Message to Hoaxters:

Just please let me know when are you going to have the theme park for the drone, I hope you make a big rollercoaster ride and about the the Grays could you make them more evil.

I am totaly sold, I'm convince all of this is real, just give me the price of the Park Ride, I'll buy the poster, spaceship models, everything, and yes I believe in Aliens/Spaceship/UFO. I will buy all of your DVD and books, I am a UFO consumer, allehluya.

One more thing could you please put like a gun or a ray beam in the drones, it would look cool and also could you make the Grays a little bit bigger with muscles, I am telling you, you will make more money, dude,
and also get the best directors like Steven Spielberg, Lucas production they make cool movies.

To debunker:

Please let them brainwash us, so they could get this theme park going on, let us all be a happy believers and trust me one of this day they will be as big as the Casino Industry, just imagine when they advertise " You could see a UFO TODAY for $9.99" wow cool right.

Well that's all folks



posted on May, 31 2008 @ 10:17 PM
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Hey newkid, good to see ya!

The current word for debunker is "Déboulonneur." Like everyone else in the PR biz, we are trying to move upmarket. Many consumers associate the word debunker with *SNIP* crazy types like the late Phil Klass, and that simply will no longer do. It's just the way of the world.



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posted on Jun, 1 2008 @ 03:54 PM
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On the stan romenak(sp?) videos - apparently both videos are from him (if you can believe the second one w/ a clear alien in it isn't some hoaxers recreation). It matches the description.

I'm thinking of starting a "who's got my clothes" website for abductees to exchange clothes and find out who / where their own clothing ended up. It would figure aliens who don't wear clothes wouldn't really notice what we were wearing and make sure we all get back our own. I've lost a lot of nice clothes over the years.....

C2C wants to give Stan a lie detector test. Given the DRT has the money and a PI in the area, how about our man Brent takes one?

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posted on Jun, 1 2008 @ 06:41 PM
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Originally posted by nfotech
On the stan romenak(sp?) videos - apparently both videos are from him (if you can believe the second one w/ a clear alien in it isn't some hoaxers recreation). It matches the description.

I'm thinking of starting a "who's got my clothes" website for abductees to exchange clothes and find out who / where their own clothing ended up. It would figure aliens who don't wear clothes wouldn't really notice what we were wearing and make sure we all get back our own. I've lost a lot of nice clothes over the years.....

C2C wants to give Stan a lie detector test. Given the DRT has the money and a PI in the area, how about our man Brent takes one?

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we could solve most of our current and future problems if LMH and Noory took one. Have the knowingly pushed and profited from something they knew wasn't,
then go from there. That should close the little pinnochio box for good.


How about c2c give themselves one too,



posted on Jun, 1 2008 @ 06:50 PM
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I just wonder, what a detector tells us about confusion. Seems to be motive number one for talking a lot of nonsense in this case.

Motive number two is oblivion. And motive number three is motivelessness.

If I were a drone, I would switch of all those other forums.



posted on Jun, 1 2008 @ 07:27 PM
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Heh heh! I bet newkid thought he was joking about putting weapons on the drones. ATS was no doubt spared because it harbors us déboulonneurs, doing the work of the evil alien empire for them. I don't have any problem with all that, but I do wish it paid better.



posted on Jun, 1 2008 @ 07:41 PM
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The whole datacenter going up in flames thing is pitiful considering The Planet is one of the most expensive server providers around. I've leased a few servers for years now and I've never had any downtime. I'm paying about half of what The Planet would charge. I knew when they bought EV1 they would hike up the prices.

There were some really interesting discussions taking place when the damn server fell over too. I'll have to remember what perverted sex act I was about to tell the DRT to perform on the nearest cow....



posted on Jun, 1 2008 @ 08:22 PM
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700,000 sites have been affected by the drones...ahh fire..
www.webhostingtalk.com...



posted on Jun, 1 2008 @ 08:55 PM
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Originally posted by CFandM
700,000 sites have been affected by the drones...ahh fire..
www.webhostingtalk.com...

yes and it seems to be affecting some peoples minds as well, as you remember I posted sp33 most excellent display, a
long with Radiis in my comments section ,

www.abovetopsecret.com...
In sp33s he pointed at that the crafts poker and craft itself was perfectly straight, when it shouldn't be .this violated some rule of photography, and just like the mirrored and reversed images early on were passed off as optical illusions, and later found to be actually mirrored, here again the same argument, or "suggestion" ,a feeble one at that, its an optical illusion, or the effect of cloaking, even though it was off for the craft to be seen, with that many illusions, then the entire set of pictures can be construed an illusion . Now aint that the truth




Re: Spf33 - May 23rd
« Reply #22 on: Today at 01:53:01 AM »

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Besides all that, it's highly unlikely a hoaxer would work the perspective in a photo like this...the crafting of a detail similar would take reallylong time to match, and for what purpose? I for one is not buying that.
There has to be a more specific answer to the detailed photo.
Most likely a photographic known optical phenomenon.

--VonStern

« Last Edit: Today at 02:03:13 AM by EVS »

I am shocked Vonstern would say that knowing all about disinfo by gov, and that hoaxers want as much realism as possible, as Engineeringtype said, verasimilitude. Occasionally they trip up as here, and unfortunately Vonstern as well. he is a brilliant man, why he would suddenly forget the length hoaxters go thru is perplexing.

I am really hoping the DRT posts its book and dvds, along with their own personal pix, just with what they have, as its become more stretched than the drones themselves, a perfect example of junk science and reasoning. I would wait and not even critique them, which actually helps them more than anything, let them hang themselves by that very poker. I really am enjoying this, from this armchair I am sitting at.


But , also, what I see is the same kind of pressure Bush and the White house put on CIA casey to come back with proof of wmd. evry time he came with a report no evidence of such, they kept sending him back, again and again,
until he said what they wanted to hear..yes Fellow ARC brothers and sisters, that is exactly what we see here right now.We may have decieved in buying one war, but we do not have to by this.

cheers









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posted on Jun, 1 2008 @ 09:14 PM
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This whole affair does remind me so much of my pirate hunting days...More hilarious the evidence as being passed off as thou...
Yep I have so much to say about that cloaking issue..But yet I wait..



posted on Jun, 1 2008 @ 09:39 PM
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I like this quote by 10538

"If we are going to determine photo authentication
it may be a better use of our time to look for evidence of compositing or layering"

This is what the analysis that Sys has from me shows...It will be very hard to find anything in the other photos..Since the other photos are very easy for hiding this...



posted on Jun, 1 2008 @ 09:46 PM
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If these are hoaxed, how come I saw one on Friday?

I was walking under a clear blue sky, but there were fluffy clouds over the hills, which is quite unusual.

Then I noticed a straight-line strut between 50 and 100 feet long sticking out of a cloud.

Usually, clouds don't have straight line metal struts sticking horizontally out of them, I thought.

Then the cage appeared and the whole thing was visible for a few seconds. Then it receded into the clouds again.

If this was a fake, what kind of long metal strut and cage usually stick out from a cloud?

I'm just asking.



posted on Jun, 1 2008 @ 09:58 PM
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Have you reported your sighting? Say, to Mufon or Nuforc? If you had a real sighting and you have a name and address, you could do wonders for the credibility of your fellow witnesses by stepping forward. If you are another anonymous witness, well, I know their sites are down and all, but the DRT and their friends would really be the best ones to talk to. They are not very demanding. We are a bunch of those silly hard-headed old timers who insist on evidence. Just, you know, sayin'.

I look forward to more details!



posted on Jun, 1 2008 @ 10:06 PM
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Originally posted by sarcastic

If these are hoaxed, how come I saw one on Friday?

I was walking under a clear blue sky, but there were fluffy clouds over the hills, which is quite unusual.

Then I noticed a straight-line strut between 50 and 100 feet long sticking out of a cloud.

Usually, clouds don't have straight line metal struts sticking horizontally out of them, I thought.

Then the cage appeared and the whole thing was visible for a few seconds. Then it receded into the clouds again.

If this was a fake, what kind of long metal strut and cage usually stick out from a cloud?

I'm just asking.



@Sarcastic : document document document, yes, and I would not talk to anyone else other than c2c, and LMH, and Unknown country, or the DRT, as they will make sure no one asks you any "embarrasing" questions that might require an honest answer. If you have an airbrush ready, try to paint or at least sketch it. If you have no paper, then use chalk on a sidewalk, and let your neighbors know, so nobody will think you made this up. This is very important. if you saw it 10 years ago, the better, as no one can really go back that far, and will give you an out, in case people start looking at you strange. I am sure you know the routine. Good Luck!

@CF : I was remiss in telling everyone you are Radii, and very good at graphics, as well a great hunter of pirates and counterfeit artists as well. Work that placed your very life in jeopardy because of its very nature. Many in the general public have no idea the extent hoaxters and con artists will go to to protect their operations.
Your work is both intriguing and revealing and I have not hesitated to place it in our Comments section for public viewing.Its a pleasure to have you on board. Its no surprise that DRT members are quick to dismiss the work which provides the most probable answers as iterated by talented experts and members here such as yourself.




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posted on Jun, 1 2008 @ 10:16 PM
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Better yet, tell 'em you are a CG pro while you are at it. Say you see nothing to indicate the known photos are fake, and they'll quote you in their list of experts. Far better than just someone who saw something weird, you will be a very important witness.



posted on Jun, 1 2008 @ 10:33 PM
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Originally posted by Double_Nought_Spy
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Better yet, tell 'em you are a CG pro while you are at it. Say you see nothing to indicate the known photos are fake, and they'll quote you in their list of experts. Far better than just someone who saw something weird, you will be a very important witness.


Double that was brilliant! But please Sarcastic, don't tell then them WE sent you as they will think you are a Debolluneur, Deber bullion, err, something like that and you will be barred, notwithstanding how credible you sound to us.

@sarcastic: I was not aware you liked the concept of games for corporate training like the enspire people do, I know carnegie mellon is into that ans well as many major outfits in Txas, now the mecca for these types of things. I know certainly you would know where to go (I dont mean a large lake for Hemit) for what you saw Friday. Puffy, was that like next to stratus, or nuimbus, or cumulus..whitley has seen them in morning, not a hoax therefore, but a dream state, if more 100ft ( therefore 225 ft entire craft )appendages are reported sticking out from where they are not supposed to stick out, then it should be looked at, particularly during rush hours when someone else should see them, like the tennesee rushour drone. Also, Welcome aboard




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posted on Jun, 1 2008 @ 11:04 PM
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Man, this will be so much more fun once we have an anonymous self-proclaimed CGI expert who has seen a drone moving in and out of some clouds! A dead cell phone battery will explain the lack of pictures.

Sometimes I think this would have just petered out by now if we weren't helping the devotees. Back in the middle of winter, long before ARC was officially formed, our members were the ones who suggested someone in California go looking for those utility poles, and just look what that led to! I never have figured out why the DRT had to hire PIs when so many OM members were in California. I recall seeing some state by state breakdown of OM members, IIRC, and California was well represented. Another of the mysteries of the drone business.




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