UFO: Antigravity or Coandă Effect man made saucers or aircrafts?

Antarctica/Byrd Russian video translation in workgroup



Hi,

The Russian ATS members MastaG and Russian soldier, are working on the translation of 2 Russian videos about Antarctica/ Byrd/High Jump from the Zorgon thread www.abovetopsecret.com... .

Are any other Russian members available to help them? Just U2U MastaG and Russian soldier to coordinate the work, and post in that thread.

Some software tools are already there under the post “Russian translation”, another site for video downloads is keepvid.com... , for “mp4” video play use www.quicktime.com... (or www.apple.com... ) and for “flv” use www.martijndevisser.com... . Thank you.

brotherthebig.

Thats good news, I like the text from these videos and that profile
that shows up must be Adm. Byrd.

They got him out of retirement to go fight the saucers with cannons.


Saucer might be like a Porsche, either still or going fast.
The German jets were too fast for much WWII action and the
saucer must have been a big disappointment.

www.tfcbooks.com...

^Those aether lamps might be the only clue we have to how alternating
current reacts at high voltage and frequency, carried out in a bulb but
Tesla mentions some are in air and should be persued.

Originally posted by brotherthebig

The Russian ATS members MastaG and Russian soldier, are working on the translation of 2 Russian videos about Antarctica/ Byrd/High Jump

If that doesn't work, I have recruited a translator... he will give me a quote on price to have it done. I am particularly interested in the last part, where the images show a wormhole as possible explanation of where Byrd went

I was sent this link a while back while research NAZI/USA connections...

Quite frankly this one scares the heck out of me... namely with WHO is involved, what the GOAL is and when it started...

This paper is full of links and documents to back up the research, all of which is public record, not speculation...

If ever there was a smoking gun about the NWO, this one is a howitzer!

ecosyn.us...

Its no wonder a certain recent ruler of the US said...

Today the topic is Bush’s opinion of the Constitution and the rule of law.

GOP leaders told Bush that his hardcore push to renew the more onerous provisions of the act could further alienate conservatives still mad at the President from his botched attempt to nominate White House Counsel Harriet Miers to the Supreme Court.

“I don’t give a goddamn,” Bush retorted. “I’m the President and the Commander-in-Chief. Do it my way.”

“Mr. President,” one aide in the meeting said. “There is a valid case that the provisions in this law undermine the Constitution.”

“Stop throwing the Constitution in my face,” Bush screamed back. “It’s just a goddamned piece of paper!”

I’ve talked to three people present for the meeting that day and they all confirm that the President of the United States called the Constitution “a goddamned piece of paper.”

Source

Just do a google for "It’s just a goddamned piece of paper"

[edit on 16-5-2007 by zorgon]

Russian translation in progress

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Hi,

Russian translation already in progress, just see www.abovetopsecret.com... .

So soon we will have some more information about the German WWII expeditions to Antarctica and Operation High Jump.

Thank you MastaG and Russian soldier.

brotherthebig.

Thanks for the link, going over now.

What would be interesting is a follow up Russian film on what they
think about Tesla and the UFO.

I mean conspiracy theories have been indicating that Tesla gave us the
UFO and Bush as a consequence of some worker selling some of Tesla's
documents to Germany. I mean what do the Russians think about
Germany having these saucers. Do they work on aether.

The biggest cover of all would German support of the no aether theory.

All in all Tesla giving us the UFO and Bush, the horror.

Some thing I found from Lyne:

Tesla stated in a Dec. 8,1915 New York
Times article that his electro-propulsive "...manless airship..." would
travel "...300 miles a second..." (1.08 million mph), "...without propelling
engine or wings, sent by electricity to any desired point on the globe...".
The Sept. 22, 1940 New York Times article by Wm. L. Laurence
completed the documentation, by stating that Tesla had already tested
his four-part Teleforce system, which included "...a new method for
producing a tremendous electrical propelling force...", as used on his
electrical aircraft.

I'm sure I must have stated my suspicions that Tesla would have an electric
airplane design in the works and with all his popular talk might have inspired
some of the scenes from Metropolis (1927) of layered high ways in
the air between tall buildings, including the robot girl.

Metropolis (1927)

The problem with developing such a wonderful device, it open up
the door for some one to steel it.

A few years back I had a Tesla patent for a "flying saucer" But I cannot find it now... and unless I have a number , the older patents are not in the search engine under name. I found two of his patents so far by accident while searching for something else. I am not sure the exact date when the patent office started full records, but his later patents are easy to find.

If anyone has a hint of any number that might be his I will look them up

I found one site that is suspended and I found this reference

"1. An American citizen (naturalized), Nikola Tesla (an athiest
and a capitalist), invented the flying saucer, before 1900, and
reduced it to practice by 1915."

Here is another little favorite clip of mine...

"In the United States, Tesla's fame rivaled that of any other inventor or scientist in history or popular culture,[4] but due to his eccentric personality and, at the time, unbelievable and sometimes bizarre claims about possible scientific and technological developments, Tesla was ultimately ostracized and regarded as a mad scientist.[5][6] Never putting much focus on his finances, Tesla died impoverished at the age of 86." - Wikipedia

This is how we repay the man who lit up the world. Nothing has changed

Well I like to bring his name up as often as possible.

If those NAZI disk craft aren't electrical in nature to levitate and
propel I sure would like to see similar attempts made at making
some of the smaller craft.

I mean there are dare devils doing all sorts of things, but they
are calculated and known.

Going inside a tin can with a high level tazer at your feet and a huge
coil makes for unknown territory, but Tesla did have a remote control
or independent (automaton) model. Its the art of low current, high
voltage and cycles that is lacking. Yet outside that tin can must be
unbelievable currents.

First 7 minutes of the Russian translation done


Hi,

We have the first 7 minutes translated, so check the 2 posts from MastaG.

Zorgon made some references to the great John Lear Moon thread, and I have something to add has I told to Zorgon, soon I will have that book and I will post, meanwhile the following Russian video, some more work for MasraG, has lots of photos with NASA references, so verification by this resources www.lpi.usra.edu... will be easy.

Moon mysteries (in Russian but with NASA references on the photos)

Google Video Link

For MastaG: download link (.mp4, 145 MB)

I searched this video by the GoogleVideo link, and it was not found in ATS.

Maybe Zorgon has more sources for NASA photo search and verification?

Sorry for my last post, I checked with preview and after and was totally different, now I see some problems with image, but the link works. Image repeated in this post.

brotherthebig.

John Lear Moon thread


Hi,

Sorry, link was missing, here is the link for the John Lear Moon thread, at the moment with more that 150 pages!.

Also in the Antarctica/Byrd video, MastaG had put some more parts of the translation, now related to “Base 211”. Complementary to that, at the begin of this thread, here, you will find more information and resources on Antarctica.

brotherthebig.

[edit on 2007/5/27 by brotherthebig]

Final Russian translation

von Braun in Antarctica (1967)

Hi,

We have the final part of the translation by MastaG, and the 2nd video is a cut from the first one with some additional notes from Russian soldier, but some questions remain open. See here and join the discussion.

About von Braun and Operation Highjump and Deep Freze see these 2 PDFs:
. Managing the Moon Programm
. Humans to Mars

More references:
. www.uscs.org...
. en.wikipedia.org...
. www.navsource.org...
. www.uboatwar.net...
. www.nsf.gov...
. www.nsf.gov...
. www.history.navy.mil... (search ships)
. www.gnosticliberationfront.com...
. www.geocities.com...
. www.aviationartprints.com...
. www.rr0.org...
. library.osu.edu...
. www.south-pole.com... (already posted)

brotherthebig.

edit: link

[edit on 2007/5/29 by brotherthebig]

Moon events


Hi,

The two questions are still open about the event on the Moon of 1953, reported by Zorgon in his previous post and here.

A good resource on Moon events, cited many times in different sites is the NASA Technical Report R-277 (pdf), also available online here.

The 1953 event on the NASA R-277 is here.


brotherthebig.

I am sorry...

I just HAD to post this...
I could not resist the temptation any longer...

What does a Nazi/NASA scientist do in his spare time at the South Pole?

Is that so. Bringing VB from NM to the Nazi saucer stronghold in the Antarctic.

How long will that picture be up, laugh laugh. No record of VB in America
in the 30s, yet Lyne says he was in NM on the p2 saucer project.
As Lyne says, we started it, gave it to Gernamy and after WWII had
to pay VB to get it back in NM development. VB unlocking Tesla notes
that remained in America, the same stolen by Scherff (?)(P Bush?)
with a spy camera and sold to Germany to develop the saucer program.

I mean would that be the hottest program of the age to make the plane
without wings Tesla always talked about. I mean, come on lets do this
thing would be the yada yada of the age of electricity.

Not that others knew how to do it as well, but in 1892 Tesla first
demonstrated the actions of coils breaking into the aether.

OK so VB the saucer expert in Antarctica, thanks for that gem.

I'll add that to my list of actual or so called questionable events.

Here is an article, the first of three parts.

Since it looks like we are going to explore this...

Here is another person of interest, one easy to overlook.

I hope you all are reading this.

More on Antarctica

Neuschwabenland (interactive)

WWII Paper Clip German Scientists

Hi,

In this photo

(bigger)

we found in one of the Operations Deep Freeze, von Braun and two other Paper Clip Germans, Ernst Stuhlinger and Maxime Faget.

Ernst Stuhlinger

Maxime Faget

The Operation High Jump, from New Zealand’s view.

Matyas, your firs article about the British war in Antarctica also could be found in the opening post here www.abovetopsecret.com... but from other site (same article but with photos, and a nice interactive map), the other I am reading, very good information now with connections to Nazi Occult!

I don’t have luck with the share servers, now is missing the patent image with the possible Aurora, from this post, reproduced here.

Aurora? from Lockheed patent n.º 5560569

More references:
. www.klabs.org...
. www.spri.cam.ac.uk...

brotherthebig.

edit: interactive

[edit on 2007/6/5 by brotherthebig]

Originally posted by brotherthebig
Matyas, your firs article about the British war in Antarctica also could be found in the opening post here...

Good, good. Somehow I missed that one, but it is still a mind blower all the same! Thank you for pointing it out

There are some important but frequently overlooked matters associated with bases, such as...

food...

waste products...

raw materials...

power systems...

The last two can pretty much be explained by mining and geothermal activity. But how does an army get fed in a land of ice? And where does the waste material go? That's a heckuva lot of mushrooms if you ask me!

Now those attacks on whaling vessels could be answered by a demand for protein. I can see that. And the meat would keep well. Still though, it is not a sustainable method, not like raising a crop and livestock. What about shipments from Argentina and Chile? Are there any old manifests we can get from those countries?

And what about Norway? Surely they were/are not as strategically undervalued, a mere footnote in high school history as we would be made to believe.

"Where are the files?"
"Dunno. Must've burned up in a fire!"
"Mind if we have a looksee?"
"I believe what you seek went that-a-way!" pointing at Antarctica.

Yep, there is more hidden away in attics and basements than we can begin to fathom, right in Norway. After all there was no big battle, as was the case in Hungary, the Nazis gave up with a sigh. Less collateral damage, see?

Bases and Nazi Occult


Hi, ;cool

Has mention in the opening post, we have also other 2 threads and they have also evolved and some new information are related to secret bases and Nazi mysticism, but I also follow other thread and I posted there some resources on the Black Sun, see this post.

Three nice videos on the Nazi Occult subject:

The SS Blood and Soil (1/4)

The Enigma of The Swastika (1/5)

Himmler The Mystic (1/6)

Other parts in YouTube.

In this post I corrected an audio by Farrel on The Bell, he briefly mentions Antarctica and Bariloche in Argentina, that connects to what we are trying to find in this thread, so I put here some more references on Bariloche:
. query.nytimes.com...
. www.hitlerargentina.com.ar...
. www.rense.com...
. en.wikipedia.org...
. en.wikipedia.org...
. en.wikipedia.org...
. www.cab.cnea.gov.ar...

The video “The Secret Land” (16:45 min) that I was searching here about Operation High Jump, could be seen here here.

Matyas good points! And others, do you have any information on Ahnenerbe, Jonastal and Bariloche?

brotherthebig.

I have always like this sites presentation on Operation High Jump
www.bibliotecapleyades.net...

I like the ending:

The task force came steaming back with their data which then became classified "top secret". Secretary of the Navy James Forrestal retired and started to "talk". He was put in Bethesda Naval Hospital psychiatric ward where he was prevented from seeing or talking to anyone, including his wife. After a short while he was thrown out the window while trying to hang himself with a bedsheet. It was ruled a suicide, case closed. He was telling people about the underground aryan base.

and may have link to British and the Polar Man story.


Yeah, here it is, one of my favorites:
www.bibliotecapleyades.net...

I don't want to put big image on screen so a link:
img.photobucket.com...