UFO: Antigravity or Coandă Effect man made saucers or aircrafts?

A 10kva generator and 1000 turn voltage up transformer with only
a single terminal ties to the primary will give a lot of voltage to
generate static charges, the is the Tesla pancake coil.

The beauty of it is it does not generate current only static.

Pumping the electron up any away is from the craft in a central beam
like the old TV electron beams will keep the craft looking like a big
positive charge. This is the so called Tesla one wire bulb.


I am now on the tractor beam effect:
This tractor beam is of interest.
Reportedly carrying off cattle.

I now assume the saucer is a static electricity devise.
Surrounded by positive ions and pulled up by a beam of electrons.
Well sort of along those lines.

If electrons are lifting up the positive saucer, then the cattle must be
negatively charged to be lifted up to the saucer.

So beam down some electrons on the cattle.

Never thought I'd ever be talking about beams, all that Tesla
beams I thought was hooey.

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How do you place this power-source on a craft? It looks quite big to me.
I was wondering - what could be done with something smaller , like an old CRT convertor used to beam the electrons inside the CRT? It would be cool to make a little flying model from it..

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According to the Tesla method a Helium chamber given a spark
( releases 460,000 cal/gram-atom ) to power Tesla Turbine and
drive a Tesla 10kvac generator.
Or a
Di Atomic Hydrogen Cycle
(H2 + 103cal/gram mole => 2H + 109,000 ca/gram mole)
Yes more energy out than in. A Relativistic anomaly.
He becomes slightly radioactive, alpha particle, but captures electrons
to become He again for another spark. See various Papp engines
working on a Nobel Gas mixture.

So no exhaust from those engines and propane might be used as well
with air supply and exhaust.


Remember the ETs or Evasive Technicians have been working on
this for awhile in secret.

Tesla's generator may be a multi coiled wheel.

ED: I have been thinking a model using Taser electronics might
do. Some people want a chainsaw motor to test out.
VW commercial?
Yes models have been built but can not be disclosed.

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keep up the great work guys, actually finally jioned the site after reading thru all this
so hi and nice job

I'm back with some bits if information.. as if we do not have enough already.
Did a search on Van de Graaf which should be Van De Graff and I think
Tesla used two a's and two f's.
Also I saw Letterman in the search.
The VDG was used for X-ray dentistry but needed to be in a
pressurized steel tank to produce x-ray voltages.
I gather 80kvdc is not enough and one million suffices.
Tesla's x-ray coils are used today.
The idea that ac agitates the either binging a plus and minus buildup
but never enough to discharge is critical for levitation.
If you want to go beyond Letterman.

Like charges repel... so the pie tin is ejected.
But if in contact there is no rejection.

What causes the initial separation from gravity.
Electrostatic momentum due to charged atmosphere.
Once the weight of the top tin is nullified, the repelling of
like charges takes effect.

So far the UFO effect is being discussed as a like charge imbalance.
TT Brown being somewhat the reverse of the technology.
AC coils as in x-ray technology set up a craft in an oscillating
charge field.
At a timed negative charge, an anode draws in more electrons from
over head and upward movement is provided.
A like charge imbalance requiring two charging circuits.

If it works let me know.. this is a new one.

The van de Graff is still useful in the UFO as a spark for the helium
motor to spin any high voltage high frequency generators.

Originally posted by Matyas

Originally posted by TeslaandLyne
And nothing dimensional about it, because the effects of rapidly varying
electric field of high strength is unknown and apparently polarizes
the air: (see red green aura at poles... strong enought magnetics for you)

Now that was an actual sighting!

What I am attempting to say here is plasma is one way to travel in the air, but in space a way to manipulate gravity is preferable, and such means is produced by the same fields in a different manner.

teslaandlyne (3 seconds ago)
Found this again on my ATS single 3404303. electricity all around and
nowhere to go, poor UFO pilot. Not as clear as they used to be, see Mexico
UFO with Robert Stack. A positive ion wake and a hint of light on the
forward or top anode to draw in electrons. Otherwise there is aura like north
and south poles at times. As long as he is charged he can float but an in
sync adjustment is needed for full control. No attempt and making a cloud
for cover. Place a Polaroid clip on in front of lens?

ED:

but in space a way to manipulate gravity is preferable,

Not to sure, gravity is weaker as inverse distance squared.
If ether is ever present in space.. thats the way to go.. its there
.. its usable.. you bounce off it with electrostatics that uses no power
at all ( no IR losses).

Ether: gaseous tiny plus and minus particles thinner than air and
electrostatic active at one million volts AC... got any old dental
x-ray equipment?


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I'm dropping in a little late, but is this what we're talking about?....

Google Video Link

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"boundary layer" technology, which was strictly aerodyne technology, of Prandtl and later Coanda, was also declassified early on, showing that it had nothing whatsoever to do with REAL flying disc technology. The secret agencies have declassified NOTHING relating to true, electro-propulsive flying ship technology, including any historical origins, theories, or related developments which might lead investigators to the real technology.

So not the pressure wave, no G force, technology of Tesla.

Also due to initial reference on that page:
Google: Lusar was a German officer

Tesla took the aero out of aircraft and made the ether pressure craft.
No EM no E no M or H component just voltage to moving pressure
that moves crew and craft all together now.
ED: Perhaps a sub title might be how Germany got the Tesla
pressure wave in New Mexico of all places.

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19. In 1897, Nikola Tesla, a patriotic naturalized U.S. citizen, of Serbo-Croatian birth, discovered and published a new theory of energy and gravity, called the "Dynamic Theory of Gravity", which represented a unified field theory. Tesla's energy equation, "C=E/R", and Tesla's application to the Swiss Patent Office for his flying saucer patent, was made while Albert Einstein was a second class patent clerk there. Einstein's work was an Illuminati conspiracy to obliterate Tesla's discoveries, so the Illuminati could control flying saucers.

from here about true science (ie without the Illuminati )

ED: I didn't check on the R but dimensional analysis says its energy
seconds per length or the energy potential and the dynamic rate
ratio is a constant C if C is meant for the speed of light.


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The Tesla aircraft or UFO craft of Lonnie Zamora or the Hudson Valley
or Rex Heflin or Belgian Triangle may not be stealthy to radar and
only exhibit visual stealth due to black light emission, good for when
in hover but then they fast. The use of flat surfaces in the triangle
Tesla craft might be an effort toward radar stealth.

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Looks kind-a-like the LoFlyte test article to me?

www.nasa.gov...

The apparent means of motion is now momentum as Tesla modeled the Sun
and Earth with a man made Aurora from coil operations. If you think the Sun
imparts momentum into a Capacitor Earth you got the driving force of the
Cosmos and the UFO or Teslaship all wrapped up.

"Pravda" article is a joke, it is completely false. How can I go back 30 years chronometer. It can not happen, this is impossible, unless you put it back 30 years Kodak 10. Outside, it is good.