, you said,
If this thread was presented in a "wouldn't it be cool if...." way, I would stay out of it, just like I stayed out of TD's other two threads
Yes, TD's experiences are just that - real experiences. Both he and I maintain this. Among these experiences are numerous encounters with someone TD
has come to believe is himself, as well as his abduction and related experiences stemming from an abduction that occurred in 1992.
Included in TD's experiences are "memories" of his experiences that TD recalls as occurring during his abduction experience. These particular
memories arose on their own five years after TD was abducted, and these memories are more difficult to prove.
During the six days that he was abducted, TD says that he was given access to time travel technology and used it to visit himself on this timeline, as
well as a number of other things.
I have purposely left that particular aspect of his experiences - what could be called "paranormal memories" - alone, because these memories didn't
even surface until five years after this experience.
The rest of his experiences, including meeting someone who claims to be TD from the future, are real and have witnesses. These encounters are not
fake, or a hoax, and the memories that arose on their own that are associated with the abduction specifically, although more difficult to prove, I
believe nonetheless are based on real experiences.
Part of why I believe these "paranormal memories" are possibly memories of real experiences is that I've learned of witness confirmations that TD
was visited by someone whom I believe to be his future self.
Is that unbelievable? Yes. But I believe it. And to me, if this half of the equation can be proved to be real, then the other half is also. They are
two sides of the same coin. You can't have TD be a time traveler, and at the same time not have time traveled.
JSR asked me this before. He asked me what piece of evidence it was that convinced me of TD's story. That's just the thing, you can't prove
something like this with a photo, a video, or even sincerity; although to me, sincerity goes a long way.
In this case, what convinced me was everything taken together; his parents, brother, wife, friends, coworkers, his sincerity, corroborative testimony
from other credible abductees, everything.
It clearly has to take a lot to convince someone (me) of something so incredible. And although I wouldn't stake my life on it, I've come to accept
it as a very real possibility, and I have chosen to act accordingly.
I would ask anyone what has caused them to believe in ufos and ETs. Was it one piece of evidence, or was it an abundance of corroborative evidence?
To me a photo isn't going to do it. But I have an open mind, and I don't need to see a time machine in operation to believe it's possible.
TD's experiences in toto have convinced me, for the most part, of their veracity. I am in effect saying that TD was abducted by gray aliens, that he
has had time travel experiences, and that what he sees as coming to pass is going to come to pass.
I'm sticking my neck out, and TD is as well. I have nothing to lose by doing so, and so many have so much to gain by us simply sharing his stuff. All
we're doing is sharing his experiences. That's it.
syrinx, you said,
the fact that you are clearly claiming this thread is a true account of someone who has been abducted by aliens and is waiting for his future self to
show him how to time travel is offensive and an insult to this board.
Your opinion is valued, but there is a difference between opinion and fact. It's not subtle either.
Just because you don't "believe" in the possibility of something does not make it impossible.
Have you time traveled before? If not, how can you speak with authority on the subject?
The only reason this thread is still going and TD wasn't banned is you begged a mod.
The mod saw a "time traveler" thread and banned the OP for what he saw as a hoax. Without reading TD's thread, the mod simply banned TD shortly
I felt it was unfair to ban someone without reading their post and posted an objection out of fairness to TD. The mod reconsidered and lifted the ban
I made a case for TD's claims, and it was valid. TD has witnesses to encounters with someone who claims to be TD from the future - and these
witnesses include his own parents. They will vouch for these experiences, but what else can they say except that they met a "guy who looked like an
older version of our son, who said he WAS our son?"
I have not chosen to ask TD to put his parents on the spot about this, mostly because there is enough corroborative evidence that I don't need their
testimony. I also respect their privacy, and know that they would rather not get involved in this. That's honest. If it's not good enough that's
There are more witnesses that TD is in the process of interviewing. One of the reasons he started his website, and is giving his real name is so he
can be easily located by individuals involved with this story who will be seeking him out.
syrinx, I would ask you how you know for a fact that this is an obvious fraud. How do you know this is an obvious fraud? Because you don't believe
time travel is possible? How does your belief, or disbelief in something make it real or not?
If I didn't believe that someone could walk on water does not believing this make it a fact? Chris Angel proved that someone could walk on water. My
disbelief didn't affect whether or not he walked on water one iota. He was able to walk on water despite my disbelief that he could.
collecting e-mails in an obvious hoax and fraud is disturbing to me. What exactly are you planning to do with those e-mails ?
Your concern is valid, but baseless here. These emails are offered voluntarily and they are simply to contact people "when" the future TD makes
contact with him and returns TD's lost memories to him.
I admit that typing the above response to syrinx's last question was bizarre, I still believe that TD's experiences are leading to something.
Something's going to happen.
His entire life seems like a set up to something big, and to me, it's not all for nothing. We are on the verge of seeing everything that TD was told
by his friends, future self, and others, and what he has memories of experiencing.
I'm against cults, frauds, hoaxes, charlatans, liars, all of them. I wouldn't be here speaking on TD's behalf if I thought he was lying, or even if
I thought he was mistaken. I don't even really have to believe whether or not these encounters happened, because his witnesses make these encounters
So call this a hoax, or whatever you want. But just because you call it that doesn't make it so.
syrinx, I appreciate your concern. I too would be deeply bothered by a fabrication of this magnitude. But this is a real person and he has a real
The main point is, yes this sounds crazy, but I believe TD. It's all right if you don't. We're not holding a gun to anyone's head.
Enjoy what's unfolding on our planet right now. Because it's unprecedented. And there are a lot of fantastic things around the corner.
If it bothers you to hear that, then close the thread and move on. I'm sure CNN is showing something more interesting...
[edit on 27-3-2007 by OnTheDeck]