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reply posted on 4-6-2007 @ 09:22 PM by rikriley
Originally posted by undo
So I popped Mike's Aristarchus into paintshop and used "Clarify" on it (supposed to correct images that are overly bright. and this showed up...




Look very closely at this image. What do you see?

[edit on 4-6-2007 by undo]


Undo, this proves to me that intelligent life 100% positively built these structures and statues. These are absolutely magnificent I can not wait to get to the Moon no one will believe these structures exist. Since I do not have enhanced visual programs it took me a while to see the anomolies and this is an understatement. For those that do not see these things start from the bottom left of photo and go across the bottom of photo left to right slowly and keep scanning the rest of the photo. I used a magnifying glass and distorted the anomolies until I could adjust my eyes. Positively no background light to drown out the Moon photo of the Moonbie structures. Undo Bravo to you for this find, and again thanks to Mike also for the Moon photo.

John, again this proves you right and what a fantastic find this is and this is what the Moon thread is all about. WOW Rik Riley

[edit on 4-6-2007 by rikriley]


reply posted on 4-6-2007 @ 10:33 PM by undo
Originally posted by rikriley


Undo, this proves to me that intelligent life 100% positively built these structures and statues. These are absolutely magnificent I can not wait to get to the Moon no one will believe these structures exist. Since I do not have enhanced visual programs it took me a while to see the anomolies and this is an understatement. For those that do not see these things start from the bottom left of photo and go across the bottom of photo left to right slowly and keep scanning the rest of the photo. I used a magnifying glass and distorted the anomolies until I could adjust my eyes. Positively no background light to drown out the Moon photo of the Moonbie structures. Undo Bravo to you for this find, and again thanks to Mike also for the Moon photo.


Whew, I'm glad you saw it. I was worried for a minute there. No comments usually means it's either that hard to see or it's just "a trick of light and shadow" but considering what I see in that image (what do you see?), that'd be some very creative trickery! I see now the holographic nature of what you referred to before. That's definitely going on. But for my sake, tell me what you see in this image, point it out if possible. Do you need a graphics program? I know where you can get a decent one for free. It's not big, and leaves no footprint, meaning you can just throw the whole thing in the recycling bin without having to uninstall. Here it is:
Open Canvas
home.cwru.edu...

You don't even have to install it. Just download the file to desktop and click on its icon when its done downloading, and wallah, the program opens. There's a bit of a learning curve but not too bad. It's japanese, but has an english option, which is automatic on this version. Just don't be surprised if you see some buttons with both english and japanese on them.

[edit on 4-6-2007 by undo]


reply posted on 5-6-2007 @ 02:56 PM by Fowl Play
Originally posted by rikriley
Originally posted by undo
So I popped Mike's Aristarchus into paintshop and used "Clarify" on it (supposed to correct images that are overly bright. and this showed up...




Look very closely at this image. What do you see?

[edit on 4-6-2007 by undo]


Undo, this proves to me that intelligent life 100% positively built these structures and statues. These are absolutely magnificent I can not wait to get to the Moon no one will believe these structures exist. Since I do not have enhanced visual programs it took me a while to see the anomolies and this is an understatement. For those that do not see these things start from the bottom left of photo and go across the bottom of photo left to right slowly and keep scanning the rest of the photo. I used a magnifying glass and distorted the anomolies until I could adjust my eyes. Positively no background light to drown out the Moon photo of the Moonbie structures. Undo Bravo to you for this find, and again thanks to Mike also for the Moon photo.

John, again this proves you right and what a fantastic find this is and this is what the Moon thread is all about. WOW Rik Riley

[edit on 4-6-2007 by rikriley]


is the source photo completely genuine? If this has Hoax ruled out, these features are maybe the best i have seen. Surely this is out and out proof of inteligent structures. Looks real clear to me.



reply posted on 5-6-2007 @ 08:28 PM by SpaceBits
Originally posted by rikriley
Originally posted by undo
So I popped Mike's Aristarchus into paintshop and used "Clarify" on it (supposed to correct images that are overly bright. and this showed up...




Look very closely at this image. What do you see?

[edit on 4-6-2007 by undo]


Undo, this proves to me that intelligent life 100% positively built these structures and statues. These are absolutely magnificent I can not wait to get to the Moon no one will believe these structures exist. Since I do not have enhanced visual programs it took me a while to see the anomolies and this is an understatement. For those that do not see these things start from the bottom left of photo and go across the bottom of photo left to right slowly and keep scanning the rest of the photo. I used a magnifying glass and distorted the anomolies until I could adjust my eyes. Positively no background light to drown out the Moon photo of the Moonbie structures. Undo Bravo to you for this find, and again thanks to Mike also for the Moon photo.

John, again this proves you right and what a fantastic find this is and this is what the Moon thread is all about. WOW Rik Riley

[edit on 4-6-2007 by rikriley]


Can you's highlight them..? i dont see anything, but i think i might see something but it just looks like an eye.


reply posted on 5-6-2007 @ 10:22 PM by greatlakes
Well so far not much progress has been made PRO or CON in regards to your image undo. This may be due to the fact that no one has submitted any good analysis of what may or may not be in any of the image. At this rate the sun will burn out before we get to see any of the possible anomalies in that image.

Also can you show the cropped area from Mikes image as well, it will make the origin much more clear.

Also^2 what kind of effect is clarify? What is the equivalent filter on mainstay image programs such as Photoshop CS2 or other common programs available? I've never heard of clarify as a filter before but I'm new to the graphics world. I just got photoshop CS2 now so I'll be able to run it thru there on whatever filter is equiv.

Also^3 it's interesting that the anomaly (whatever that may be) is ONLY VIEWABLE when one filter is used. It may be that the program your using only has a limited number of filters, (CS2 has lots ) and that it may be possible to see *whatever* anomalies using some other filters as well, which would seem to make sense. For something to only be seen using one type filter seems strange to me.

What I see in the image however with the above said, is:

-a triangular feature, seems like its an image artifact
-two horz line running across, this most definitely is an image artifact.

Havent really looked closely at the image besides in the posts (and using firefox extensions zoom tools).

[edit on 5-6-2007 by greatlakes]


reply posted on 6-6-2007 @ 12:56 AM by zorgon
Originally posted by Rilence
The fact is the images used throughout this gianormous thread are mostly very old by any standard....Those who post try to gloss over this by saying, "Well, they're the best images we have..."


The fact that the Images originally posted in this thread namely Copernicus 1-4 and Copernicus 5 are taken from a negative that came from a NASA contractor, that negative beig original and 16x24 inches in size is the REASON that this is such a huge thread...

And you are correct... these are the best images we have, certainly better than any version of them posted on the official site To make little of them only shows ignorance IMO



I would want to see recent images of the moon, 40 yr old images of the moon do not cut the mustard here, with regard to suggesting recent human goings on on the surface of the moon...


Well then, if you are of a mind that something is going on, then rather than knocking the evidence we have presented in this extremely huge and popular thread..., please be so kind as to find us those modern high resolution image so we can all have a look.

I too would like to see modern high resolution pictures that have not been doctored or blurred


Thus far, on this thread, there have been none...Save for the Ari.C pics which show various parts of the crater glowing blue


In YOUR opinion, not shared by thousands of viewers. And beside you yourself in this post made a comment about the "derelict machinery". So I would have to assume that you can see it, and that certainly its not a rock and therefor not natural to the moon. And that alone would be cause to celebrate.


Again, proving or disproving the reason why the crater glows blue , including its so called *cough* reactor of some sort requires those stating this case/opinion to put up a reasonable argument with regards to what has already been argued by common science...


Have you even looked up what "common" science says about Aristarchus? Most admit its at least a mystery. As to proof, I will give you that when I have it


What a waste of a lot of people's time...


Well thank you for your opinion, but I think considering how popular this thread is, and the topic in general (judging by ANY google search on Lunar or Martian anomalies) I would hazzard the opinion that a great many people do not consider this a waste of time.

The really fascinating thing though is how much time people like yourself spend in these threads telling us we are wrong. I must wonder at the motive, because as you say..."What a waste of time..."





reply posted on 6-6-2007 @ 03:10 AM by Access Denied
Originally posted by zorgon
In YOUR opinion, not shared by thousands of viewers.

So in YOUR opinion “thousands” of people are viewing this thread because of John’s “special” moon picture? No offense but has it ever occurred to you that maybe thousands (in THEIR opinion) simply enjoy watching a train wreck? As a matter of fact I know of a few “old-timers” at NASA who are laughing their a__ off.

Originally posted by zorgon
The 16x20 inch negatives are created from the raw data from the video feed.

No they’re not. That is a HIGHLY misleading statement and I’m pretty sure you know it. If not then you really have no business discussing these photographs and lecturing people about it because you haven’t done your homework and you're WAY in over your head. Please pay close attention to what I’m about to say because it just might come back to haunt you.

The negative John has is NOT an “original” in the sense he might like you to believe.

The first thing you should know is the video feed from the spacecraft was recorded in real-time on magnetic tape so the data could be played back at any time to recreate the original images as many times as NASA wanted.

The second thing you need to know is that for any given Lunar Orbiter frame there could be an untold number of negatives that were made. How? Because the negatives are simply a large-format PHOTOGRAPH of numerous horizontal strips of film that were hand assembled one at a time into a single large “quilt” which represented the entire original image. Each of these strips of film was a photograph taken of the spacecraft scan data (in real-time or stored on magnetic tape) played back on (what is essentially) a TV screen.

The third thing you need to know is once this “quilt” was created for a given frame it was photographed as may times as NASA needed depending on how many copies they wanted to make. Some of these negatives (copies), were given to scientists, some were archived, and some were given to a contractor for public distribution etc.

Got it?

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