John Lear's Moon Pictures on ATS, page 164

Originally posted by Cygnific

Originally posted by kleverone
I would love nothing more than to tell you that I see definitive structures in those pictures, but I do not.

So what do you think a structure on Mars would look like? Does it have to have windows or does it have to have a roof with tiles? I'm not saying this picture shows a structure, but i would like to hear your definition of what a structure would/should look like for you to be convinced.

It's a tough conundrum. On one hand, the moon images are mainly from apollo/clementine missions, some earlier, some later. Some of these are not the highest quality to conclusively prove either way, some are possibly tampered with, so it would seem that we should focus on Mars images, since the resolution is higher and the tech. updated it seems...

But then again, what the moon has going for it is that its relatively CLOSE to the Earth, and thus AMATEUR astronomers can image it and we have another pool of information to study.

And of course Mars has this as a strike against it, amateur astronomers at present can provide no detailed images of the planet as compared to the images that can be made of the moon by amateurs...

Its a tough nut (no reference to John Lear intended...)

with no easy answer. Some images have come close (closest?) such as the "parking garage" but alas, just not conclusive enough for everyone.

The question of "What exactly conclusively proves the existence of intelligently designed structures, buildings, monuments or constructions?" is not an easy one to answer.

From "How to Achieve Contact: Five Promising Strategies" by Allen Tough, Ph.D., University of Toronto, ieti.org...

To gain some perspective on what these large numbers mean, it is useful to recall that our civilization is only about 10,000 years old, much less by some definitions. Just 100,000 years ago our ancestors were hunter-gatherers using stone tools and only rudimentary language.

If alien civilizations are 100,000 years ahead of us, then they are quite capable of sending intelligent probes to explore other planetary systems. Each probe could be smarter and more knowledgeable than any human being, yet possibly be smaller than a basketball or baseball (Tough 1998b). Even humankind's adolescent technology will likely become capable of launching interstellar probes within 200 years, much sooner if NASA's current plans pan out. So any civilization 100,000 years beyond us presumably developed an interstellar capacity long ago.

Search for an alien object

Strategy #1: Search the solar system and Earth for physical evidence of an alien object or its effects.

(a) Within the solar system, search for unassailable evidence of an alien object. This object might be a probe or spacecraft, for instance, or its discarded parts. Such a search might focus on the Moon, the asteroid belt, or the Lagrange equilibrium points (Freitas and Valdes, 1980). Alternatively, the alien object might be a building, a monument, or some other artificial structure. Indeed, an alien intelligence may have deliberately left an artifact for us to discover at some special landmark in the solar system, such as the highest point on Mars or the deepest canyon on Venus, or in some carefully chosen spot that we will explore someday because of our scientific curiosity or our appreciation of beauty. Or equipment might have been stored below the surface of some body (perhaps in natural cracks or passages) to protect it from damage by cosmic radiation and micrometeorites.

Baugher (1985, p. 155) has even suggested that an alien probe might, on one of the geologically dead moons in the solar system, "construct a vault filled with information and artifacts.... The vault could contain a description of the civilization that sent the probe, as well as a set of instructions for the initiation of contact."

Simply looking for and finding rectilinear shapes and lines would not be conclusive evidence in itself as these can be made by natural processes, as evidenced here on Earth in numerous examples.

If you look at the Pyramids, this structure I feel gives many examples of what to look for when trying to find intelligently designed structures, the mathematical equations and ratios that are embedded within the pyramids are all signs of intelligent design and if these were found elsewhere in the solar system conclusively, then we would have our evidence.

Has it been found by Richard C. Hoagland in the Cydonia region of Mars and his study of the area? Whole other topic.. and running outa chars

[edit on 6/11/2007 by greatlakes]