Originally posted by Access Denied

Are you claiming the picture (No. 5) you (?) provided to ATS that is posted at the beginning of this thread is also a scan from an “original” 16” x 20” negative (or more accurately a contact print made from one) like you are claiming for LO2-H162-3 (Nos. 1–4)

Welcome AD. It seems to me that the original 'contact' prints of the negatives were negative images. That was the problem. Several years later I found someone that could make positives of the negatives and I don't believe they were 'contact' prints. I could be wrong. But if you remove your comment that is in parentheses from your question the answer is yes.

Or did you scan it from somewhere else like a book?

No.

Also, are you claiming your (?) copy of 5-115M has been “retouched”.

I don't have a copy of V-115M but if you are referring to V-155: yes.

whereas for example this recent scan by the USGS of the same frame was not?

Am I supposed to know something about this recent scan of the USGS of the same frame? Please enlighten me! Thanks.

Originally posted by Navieko
Perhaps... but then again, just because we figured out something like teleportation or antigravity -- doesn't necessarily mean we're able to automatically implement that technology into everything else.

There is also a couple more obvious reasons why...

Just because we have the new tech, does NOT make it cheap... Would you use an expensive Cadilac to haul freight or transport the troups or workers?

We have shown the Delta VI sea launch platform that is a Boeing?Russian joint venture. They could launch tons of material, cargo and personel from this movable platform and no one would know... and the Delta VI heavy component vehicle is mentioned in the documents I have of the Aquila LEO/Moon/Mars cargo ship...

By using old tech for the workers etc you also eliminate the chance of "loose lips sinking ships" as it were...

Originally posted by Matyas
Rik has a head on his shoulders I'd say!

He better have... considering he works with nanobots

Glad to see you back Matt... hope things are getting better at home

A while back in the thread someone mentioned toilets... it occured to me we forgot those in the plans

Originally posted by undo
hey that one's not bad at all. very interesting, in fact.

what the heck is it?

↑ Yea I even like that one!

Thank you SpaceBits, for sharing the information and article by Kevin Killum about high resolution Moon imaging with a simple digital camera used in conjunction with a backyard telescope. To find article, SpaceBits posted it on page 158 2nd from the bottom under DIY Web Telescope on this thread.

When I use the term backyard telescope, to clarify myself these are purchased or homemade telescopes some ranging in price to over $10,000 dollars in cost.

This is my thoughts on the matter. My first inclination was to raise money to build a huge privately held or I should say owned large telescope observatory located in the mountains of Arizona or Hawaii and call it Project Moon Beam. Further investigation on my part found this to have too many road blocks including costs and possible sabatage by you know who to prevent Moon images from being released to the public.

This is my proposal to John, since it is your thread and to the rest of the crew Zorgon, Undo and many other contributors to this thread. I propose on the same line of thinking as SpaceBits to keep the name Project Moon Beam or what ever you want to call it. I request that private owners of backyard telescopes with digital cameras send in photos taken around the world of the Earth's Moon. This will take a massive computer storage capacity and alot of hard work to display these photos and findings but also tremendously rewarding, more ways then you know on this great undertaking.

This is how we circumvent Nasa with their satellite photo visuals beating them at their own game and as we all know they are controlling all recent photos of the larger telescope observatories around the world. This will be easily accomplished and I will U2U John, Zorgon and Undo on how it can be done with little hassle. We also must relize that the surface of the Moon is being stealthed like a fine mesh by the Moonbies in many cases before Nasa plays with the Moon photos.

Since I have made alot of statements about the Solar System that I have
not officially proven as of yet, but hold on, I'm letting everyone know my time is coming, you will see.

I have been rediculed about alot of my sightings of anomolies and techniques I use to do so, and ever so often we have to toot our own horn. I was sometime ago written up and photographed in the Allied Chemical Corp. newspaper newsletter that went around the world as the Idea Champ.

You think ATS has a million hits a month now wait until Project Moon Beam is launched. John, the publicity your thread will recieve will rock the world if you choose to go in this side endeavor. We have not seen nothing yet of what is to take place as digital cameras and telescopes improve. Rik Riley








[edit on 2-6-2007 by rikriley]

Originally posted by bigfatfurrytexan


That is a pretty bold claim. Image tampering is one thing, and one would expect it with our super secret government. But this is full out obfuscation.

Guess i will spend the day pouring over Europa pics.

Funny thing is, i didn't do anything to the images, other than to cut them out of the larger images, and draw pink lines to indicate the areas of concern. Look at the first image. What the heck is that? How is it so crystal clear and close up there, and then, suddenly, as is shown in the second image, the terrain turns from clear (although blurry) to blurred and texturized with a bumpy surface?

Undo, so this is what they use fiberglass and loose hair for LOL. You are correct on your analysis of them covering up the surface of Europa with a false mesh. We will all discover there is intelligent life on Europa, Triton and Titon just to name a few Moons in our Solar System that support life including our own Moon, Luna.

On the Moon Triton, the largest Moon of the blue watery planet Neptune, is many statues, massive vehicles, monuments and structures. This is where I first learned and relized that holograms where being used to reflect images off the surface. I also discovered many flying spacecraft around Triton using what I believe to be plasma drive. The vague halo ring on the back side of the spacecraft is the dead give away. Rik Riley

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And then a fertile imagination to make things out to be something they are not ?

Of course all of the amateur atronomers cant see these secret bases, you have to have magic powers to see them

Originally posted by realyweely
Of course all of the amateur atronomers cant see these secret bases, you have to have magic powers to see them

Nice to see you have learned to make useful contructive comments...

That one just earned you the iggy button



greatlakes... I edited my last post to add images while you were posting. Response to Access Denied

[edit on 2-6-2007 by zorgon]

Originally posted by zorgon

Originally posted by realyweely
Of course all of the amateur atronomers cant see these secret bases, you have to have magic powers to see them

That one just earned you the iggy button

Aww, dang, ya beat me to it! I was gonna give 'em a second chance

Reallyweakly you will need to U2U me if you want to come off my iggy button.