Originally posted by zorgon

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Now I don't mind doing the research for you armchair seekers and I know no one really reads all the posts in a 100 plus page thread, but surely you could at least read THE FIRST PAGE?!?!?!
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Well, Zorgon, maybe I am the first one. I heard John Lear on Coast to Coast when he was on a few weeks ago. I wasn't able to catch the whole show, but I went on Coast to Coast's website to check out some of the photos. Very interesting I thought, but not enough (it's never enough, right?? ) so after some simple searching I ended up here.

I have read every post of this thread, all 110 pages, from start to finish. Oh how I was tempted to skip ahead several times, but my patience was definitely rewarded. From the find of the original cube ( or parking garage, right Mr. Lear?) and mining equipment in Copernicus, the anomalies on the Lick photos, the paper trail tying this whole thing to NASA, USAF, and private government contractors. And the latest round of images, the mysterious 13 mile arch provided by Mr. Lear, "the shard", multiple peek-a-boos, mysto-cubes, and now C3PO's head??

Mr. Lear, Zorgon, Borg, Matt, ArMap and others, thank you for these pages, thank you for your hard work, and a special thanks to you Mr. Lear for having the courage to share those original negatives with us and get our boulder rolling up that hill

I highly recommend that any newcomers take the time to read thru this entire thread. There is a pearl on every page.

Now that I am up to speed you all will have another set of eyeballs and another set of hands to tow the line.

I look forward to what's around the corner (or square crater if you will).

Thanks Again,

-Doc

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wow, the last couple posts full of pictures of rocks has been obvious crap. those are rocks, darlings....
you can tell me anything i have found are rocks, thats fine, I don't care, I am an armchair researcher, but seriously, all these "moon vehicle" posts are just plain rocks.
feel free to rip apart my prior posts, i just think the newer ones are crap.

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Originally posted by DrZERO

Mr. Lear, Zorgon, Borg, Matt, ArMap and others, thank you for these pages, thank you for your hard work, and a special thanks to you Mr. Lear for having the courage to share those original negatives with us and get our boulder rolling up that hill

Thank you DrZERO for your comments. They are very much appreciated.

Zarniwoop, I would dismiss the holograms if they were not so exact and humanoid at that. The Moonbies have elaborate headdresses the real question is are they dimensional or not my guess is both in our reality and theirs.

Yes, this will be very contraversal but I will take the photo and break it down what I actually see. Once viewers see what I am seeing they will never view the Moon the same way again. The seriousness on the Moonbies humanoid faces is uncanny. There are some alien looking beings that I will highlight and animal looking entities.

What is so weird is Moonbies remind me of the Sandmaries, tiny tiny humanoids on the surface of Mars. Some of us humans on Earth will be able to see the holograms and others will not. It took me a while to develop the 3-D vision and thought it to be a fluke when things on Mars popped up like holograms. This included ground zero missions as well as satellite recon missions.

This is how I discovered Lumeria a massive find on this great Earth in the Western part of the United States Of America. This will go down in history as one of the greatest archeological finds ever. I have mentioned Lumeria a couple of times on ATS threads and predicted the find On Jan. 1st, 2006 Coast to Coast New Year predictions on the Art Bell show. No one to this day on ATS even asked the location or responded to ask questions on the monumental find. In other words no one has taken me seriously. Rik Riley

Rik, I am interested in these holograms. Are they used for camouflage? If so do you think its updated technology from what we've seen with the advanced camouflage used to hide HARPP and maybe some of our moon artifacts?

I was wondering also if our government has access to this type of technology and what they would use it for on Earth, but maybe that is what you are getting at with the discovery in the Western US? Are the holograms hiding the archeological find, or are they the find.

Can you get the 3-D effect from pictures of that particular area? Can you Google Earth the site and get the 3-D effect?

Thanks!

Originally posted by DrZERO
ArMap, was anyone ever able to uncover the masked information on the this picture of the Christmas Tree you posted?

As far as I know no one did uncover what is really in the original photo.

And you can be sure that its not a UFO poster.

Originally posted by DrZERO

Well, Zorgon, maybe I am the first one.

I have read every post of this thread, all 110 pages, from start to finish.

I am impressed sir! That will get you a wats for sure. ATS ought to award points for diligence

Welcome to our little asylum

Originally posted by ArMaP

Originally posted by DrZERO
ArMap, was anyone ever able to uncover the masked information on the this picture of the Christmas Tree you posted?

As far as I know no one did uncover what is really in the original photo.

And you can be sure that its not a UFO poster.

That's what I thought

I am going to move on to other anomalies until someone can tell me what was in that Christmas Tree picture. My opinion on Tsiolkowsky is that it is some type of craft.

Originally posted by zorgon

Originally posted by DrZERO

Well, Zorgon, maybe I am the first one.

I have read every post of this thread, all 110 pages, from start to finish.

I am impressed sir! That will get you a wats for sure. ATS ought to award points for diligence

Welcome to our little asylum

You made it an easy read, Zorgon, thanks for taking the time to put all this info togeather in a coherent, relatively easy to follow flow. The evolution has been fun to watch. I look forward to future finds and more "dots" (or maybe spheres is a better term) to be connected.

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Originally posted by ArMaP
As far as I know no one did uncover what is really in the original photo.
And you can be sure that its not a UFO poster.

Not really a controled experiment as we don't know the source of that tree

And from what I am reading on scientific government papers any serious masking is done using algorithms... and just having some of those algorithms
on your computer could get you in serious doggy doo with the feds...

but hey why worry?

Originally posted by zorgon
And from what I am reading on scientific government papers any serious masking is done using algorithms... and just having some of those algorithms on your computer could get you in serious doggy doo with the feds...

I am a programmer, maybe I developed my own masking algorithms...

And I am not afraid of the feds, even those who don't use no stinking badges.

Thanks for adding those links on the HARPP camouflage, Zorgon. Those top-secret algorithms they use for masking sound pretty interesting, but I guess I shouldn’t think about it too much, I don’t want any Remote Viewers zeroing in on my coordinates.

Zorgon, what is your opinion in regards to the Tsiolkowsky anomaly?? Do you think it is a craft of some sort or buildings/complex?

Thank you DrZero for your comments. And congrats for making it through all those pages!

I am still sitting on the fence regarding the nature of these anomalies. The primary reason is due to the dust. That stuff is so nasty I believe it would have ground major operations to a halt, providing state of the art technology was used through several decades starting with the 50s. Of course they could have whipped it with electrostatic repulsion early on, but I just don't have any way of knowing yet.

Another popular diversion is alien tech. Since I came here I have learned a great deal about our attempts to understand the nature of the alien equation, and my mind has opened up to new possibilities. But to date I have found no concrete evidence of life from other systems. Synthetic, maybe, and life not as we know it right here, but the proof is still just as elusive as it has always been. It is like adding another unknown to the unknown.

What is most amazing of all to me though is the age of the Moon. It just doesn't seem possible with what we know about planet formation, and this points to yet another unknown, the Moon's origin. I am inclined to accept the possibility that the human race is much older than we currently think, and somewhere in the remote past we either had or were part of a high civilization capable of articulating the structure of solar systems. Accepting the human condition as a universal value contributes to this humancentric view, yet this theory is more plausible to me than alien intervention or present day development.

So the upshot is we really don't know for sure, but I suppose that is the nature of frontiers. It could be a mixture, as most situations turn out to be, but I don't think we will ever know until we return for a closer look.

On Earth orange colored dirt is indicative of hematite and iron oxide associated with increased mineralization. You find it in Gold country and Copper country.

Originally posted by groingrinder
On Earth orange colored dirt is indicative of hematite and iron oxide associated with increased mineralization. You find it in Gold country and Copper country.

Oh yes quite right Limonite is yellow to orange Goethite is light brownish, white when really dry... hematite is ocher to red.. or blue black in spheres and nodules like the "blueberris" on Mars

Iron oxide is also known as rust...

water = iron = rust

no water?

oxygen + heat = rust

{you can do this at home... put oxygen from granmas tank into a glass jar {O is heavier than air} take kitchen tongs and some steel wool... light the steel wool with a match and dip in the oxygen POOF iron oxide... and a really cool bright flash

need one or the other

No oxygen... no rust