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reply posted on 21-8-2006 @ 04:06 PM by thelibra
Originally posted by dgtempe
TheLibra...

Quantum Physics is complicated. I've been studying it for awhile.


Ummm... No, you haven't. If you had, you wouldn't be calling it Quantum Physics. You'd be calling it something else. Take it from someone who really HAS studied it, in college, and after college. This isn't quantum physics. This is feel-good mental stuff. If you wish to maintain credability, you need to call things by their rightful name, or at least don't make up definitions to existing names and then use "Oh, I been doing it a while, and it takes some getting used to" as a defense when it is clearly and utterly wrong.

Now, having read your past posts, which by the way have often been extremely inflammatory and rude in some cases (though your intent at the time was sarcasm or joking), I will give you the benefit of the doubt and assume you're just pulling another DGTempe-post, which is to say, something completely off-the-wall and purposefully disruptive.

If, however, you honestly believe that "thinking postive thoughts to change the universe" equals Quantum Physics, you are vastly mistaken.

And since you challenged another poster to tell you all about Quantum Physics because there's so many experts on everything (welcome to the 'net, my friend), I will be happy to enlighten you.

Quantum Physics is, in layman's terms, the study of where conventional physics breaks down at the extremely large or extremely minute levels. In practice, it is far more complex, but has nothing to do with "thinking happy thoughts at the universe".

from Wikipedia.com
Quantum mechanics is a fundamental branch of physics that supersedes classical mechanics at the atomic and subatomic levels. It provides the underlying mathematical framework for many fields of physics and chemistry, including condensed matter physics, atomic physics, molecular physics, computational chemistry, quantum chemistry, particle physics, and nuclear physics. Quantum mechanics is a subset of quantum field theory and quantum physics in general, which, along with general relativity, is one of the pillars of modern physics.


from Dictionary.com
The branch of physics that uses quantum theory to describe and predict the properties of a physical system.


from library.thinkquest.org
Quantum physics is a branch of science that deals with discrete, indivisible units of energy called quanta as described by the Quantum Theory. There are five main ideas represented in Quantum Theory:

Energy is not continuous, but comes in small but discrete units.
The elementary particles behave both like particles and like waves.
The movement of these particles is inherently random.
It is physically impossible to know both the position and the momentum of a particle at the same time. The more precisely one is known, the less precise the measurement of the other is.
The atomic world is nothing like the world we live in.




I believe what you are attempting to post about, though perhaps a language barrier has caused the misunderstanding, is Quantum Consciousness.

www.quantumconsciousness.org...

Please, with all due respect, please compare the two and make sure which one you are really trying to talk about, because at present you're coming across as willfully ignorant. Hopefully it's just an honest mistake.


reply posted on 21-8-2006 @ 05:12 PM by LazarusTheLong
QP in its most basic form, is the key to the connectedness of everything...

and in that right, if everything is connected then it isn't actually QP to say "think Positive" but close...

it IS actually using the QP theorem to prove the validity of the statement though...
(please forgive bleepers, as we tend to jump before the horse, in our excitement)

if we are all connected (IMO we are)
then by the science of QP, if we all think positively, then that positive vibe can reach across the vast distances, and affect everyone, just as if a long haired, big breasted hippie woman just came up and hugged you in person...

feel the hugs people... feel the hugs...
think postively, visualize whirled peas...
and screw the negative ninnys... let them go find something else to beleive in, since they dont like this...

and BTW, the leading QP researchers have yet to DISPROVE any of the "QP bleep" statements... even the Dr David Albert admits that the idea of quantum connectedness isn't divided from QP, and cant be disproven by it, but he wanted to see more proof, because the idea seems very close to the "commune" ideas of the 70's that he was also exposed to...
he felt that there was too much "New agey" talk, and not enough meat...
but even HE is still open for more examination of the principle... (from the extended version of "down the rabbit hole" WTBDWK with his negative comments)

it is all about QP being the key to connect everything... us included...

Hope that helps...

but in the end of all these semantic arguements, ask yourself if you want to hope for a better world, or a worse one...

If it is a worse one, then please check your body in ASAP, as you are holding the rest of the class back...

And Byrd, I wish that everyone understood QP and QM at all... since there seem to be so many different opinions about it, and if you look at "fact" even 3 years ago, it has already changed...

You would think by reading these responses, that Nygdan, Byrd, and others actually know more than researchers at esteemed labs... when what they learned, has also probably already changed... (as it has with most scientists that were interviewed for WTBDWK, and gave positive reviews about how human consciousiness is understood better with the knowledge of QP...)

and that is what it is all about, for those that really want to know... so that you wont jump on semantics and ruin a good thread...


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reply posted on 21-8-2006 @ 05:48 PM by 2manyquestions
This should be an interesting book to read: Quantum Enigma
It just came out, and talks about Quantum Mechanics and Consciousness.

Trying to understand the atom, physicists built quantum mechanics and found, to their embarrassment, that their theory intimately connects consciousness with the physical world. Quantum Enigma explores what that implies and why some founders of the theory became the foremost objectors to it. Schrödinger showed that it “absurdly” allowed a cat to be in a “superposition” simultaneously dead and alive. Einstein derided the theory’s “spooky interactions.” With Bell’s theorem, we now know Schrödinger’s superpositions and Einstein’s spooky interactions indeed exist.


I wonder how much it clarifies, and how many experts agree or disagree with what is within this book.
There are people out there who try to use Quantum Mechanics to "support" their agenda (i.e. certain New Age groups led by people like "Ramtha" ). I would LOVE to be able to read what the Experts in the field of Quantum Physics have to say about all these theories. So far I've only been able to find a couple of relevant articles. I know there are at least a few who oppose that "documentary" titled "What the bleep do we know?", including the authors of the book I mentioned. Check the links in my last post on page 2 of this thread.

dg, it would be awefully nice of you to post your links. Please.


reply posted on 21-8-2006 @ 06:16 PM by sybercat
I agree with this topic and its not mysticism, mysticism is just science unexplained anyway as far as im concerned. Prayer is working on the same principals just like this, and voodoo does too. Who needs the confusion of which god to focus ur positive thouts!? jus do it, throw them out into THE ALL which is the true god - SOURCE n itl filter all the way back down thru the universe and all its mini gods and manifest thru us.

Yknow.. its about densitys.. from the highest gasses down to the heaviest, physical, your spirit is a gasseous substance etc etc... negative thought / vibrations become heavier and heavier until they manifest as sickness and disease. Its that simple.

Be careful what u think and wish for nowadays cause its comming a lot faster!! jus dont be suprised when u get the opposites of what u want at times, if you FEAR something u will usually always make it happen. (im king at that!) 'self fullfilling prophecy' they call it.


Mother earth is also a living organism with a mind, GAIA, we are all in that mind causing havoc, its down to us and the way we live, act and think in our hearts, to whether or not we attract doom or the planet devastates us with bad weather etc, and eventually gos thru pole shifts. Buddhists dont do all that chanting for nothing or to trance out, they are helping to harmonise the frequency of the planet, jus like the native indians way of life n ritual.

This quantum info is explained by THOTH/ HERMES and the KYBALION. Which contains the following chapters on The Laws of The All..

0. Introduction
1. Hermetic Philosophy
2. Seven Hermetic Principles
3. Mental Transmutation
4. The ALL.
5. The Mental Universe
6. The Divine Paradox
7. "The All" in All
8. Planes of Correspondence
9. Vibration
10. Polarity
11. Rhythm
12. Causation
13. Gender
14. Mental Gender
15. Hermetic Axioms

I have it in PDF format and seperate text files if anybody wants it give me your email in a IM.
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