posted on Aug, 12 2006 @ 03:22 AM
It really concerns me when I see people in these forums speak out of ignorance. I believe that it was American Madman who referenced the 2 term
limits for Presidential office as being instituted just after WW II.
The 2 term limits for Presidential office was brought about by the one of the only men since WW II who could have won a 3rd term if he wanted...Ronny
Rayguns. He succeeded in putting the USSR into the poorhouse and crushing Russian Communism by outspending them in a cold war arms build-up.
To this day, many Americans aren't sure whether Ronald Reagan was an absolute political genius or just incredibly lucky. It was probably a bit of
Anyway, in the 80s, Reagan nearly tripled our national debt from $1 Trillion to $2.9 Trillion in his bid to win in the arms build-up. In retrospect,
it was a good move and well worth the money. The U.S. had many in the world who were willing to buy into that debt because of the reputation we
If it were not for the 2 term limit that Reagan worked with congress to put into place, he undoubtedly would have been elected again in a landslide.
He left office with about a 76% approval rating. This paved the way for Bush Sr. to ease into office without much of a fight.
Bush Sr. continued building stockpiles of weapons and building our national debt to 4.4 Trillion even though we had no need for more munitions or more
debt. But it was simple....we needed to keep the economy going and munitions is what we were good at making. This eventually led to a need to
dispose of some of these munitions stockpiles that were aging and in danger of becoming unsafe from storage.
Saddam Hussein in 1991 provided the most perfect means of weapon disposal we could ever find. He invaded Kuwait and thumbed his nose at the U.S. and
the rest of the world. Bush Sr. proceeded to mount a devastating military against Iraq and then let loose with the most incredible fireworks show the
world has ever seen...30 days of precision explosives were delivered aerially into Iraq. Finally, when the aerial campaign let up, Iraqi soldiers
that survived crawled out of their bunkers and sometimes got shot because they surrendered with too much enthusiasm as they were mistaken for
Saddam agreed to an unconditional surrender. The conditions were laid out and he signed it. All weapons of mass destruction were to be destroyed.
Iraqi military planes, the few that survived the bombing, were not allowed to fly within 30 miles of their borders with other countries. Violaters
were shot down. All rockets capable of delivering an explosive as far away as Israel were to be destroyed.
Saddam complied for 10 years and there has been no evidence found that he did not. The occassional Iraqi military airplane that flew into the no-fly
zone and didn't turn around fast enough was shot down and everyone in the world said they had it coming.
In spite of this overwhelming victory, Bush Sr. lost his bid for presidency to Bill Clinton. Clinton immediately initiated a "don't ask, don't
tell" policy for Gays in the military. This ticked off a lot of us right wingers.
He then proceeded to cut government spending in the budgets that he sent to congress for approval. The result was that the budget got cut and many
military bases were slated for closing. This hurt areas that depended on those bases for local revenue and it took many years for most of them to
recover, but most did recover. Annual spending was actually reduced for the first time in over 100 years and this country learned to make something
other than munitions. We all went to work building the computer revolution. The national debt increased only 1.4 Trillion in Clintons 8 year term of
office to 5.8 Trillion, less than Bush Sr.'s 4 years in office. He did the half of his job that required that he present a viable budget to the
Congress each year. The other half as Commander-in-Chief of the armed forces? History will tell.
Though Clinton likely could have won a 3rd term even in the face of a sex scandal in the oval office, he abided by the terms of the law regarding
presidential terms being limited to 2 and stepped down.
Today, it is still undertain who actually won the election of 2000. The ballot counting was never completed and Bush Jr. laid claim to office. The
U.S. Supreme Court granted his petitions and he took the presidency. History is yet to be determined about this president. However, he has written
budgets that have made every president prior to himself look like tight wads. The national debt has risen from 5.8 Trillion to a current $8.5
Trillion. That is at a rate of about $500 Billion per year in new national debt. It will be pushing $10 trillion before he leaves office. I would
not want to be the president to follow Bush Jr. and that massive debt.
Today after so many questionable political moves by this administration by which power grabs were made in almost every move, one does have to wonder
if Bush Jr is willing to surrended such a power to a duly elected succesor.
This is a question of honor with Bush Jr in regards to the 2 term limit. The limit that was created under the Reagan Administration and honored was
then honored by the Clinton Administration. There has been some question raised as to whether Bush Jr will be willing to step down when his 2 terms
What do you think? Will he relinquish control of the presidency in January of 2009 or will he find a means to retain the office?
Will the 2 term limit find it's way to the congressional floor to be overturned? Would Bush be able to squeeze off yet another narrow claim to the
presidency? Would he actually stoop to some sort of coup or conspiracy to maintain his hold on power?
What would you expect from him?