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Originally posted by Mintwithahole.
Can't say I've ever believed in The Disclosure Project, but if you feel it is a hoax could you tell us why and how he got so many people together who strongly believe they have been part of the cover up?
On Wednesday, May 9th, 2001, over twenty military, intelligence, government, corporate and scientific witnesses came forward at the National Press Club in Washington, DC
Originally posted by subliminal1284
Also Bab Lazaar is a fraud. Here is what Nuclear Phycisist Stanton Friedman has to say about Bob Lazaar.
John - Well! From that point - uh - you know - he kept - he was ... Well he worked from December 1988 to March 21, 1989, which will always be a date that we'll always remember and that ... the Tuesday before ... the 21st was a Wednesday.
The day before ... I was over to his house and he said, "Do you want to go and see a disk fly tomorrow?" I said, "Well, how?" and he said, "I know a place we can watch it and they always test on Wednesdays at sunset because that is the time this road is least traveled." So I said, "Okay! Let's go." So Gene Haupt and me and Bob got in my motor home and I think Bob's wife was with us and we drove up there - just south of the black mail box, which we didn't know about then.
Art - The now infamous black mail box...
J - Right! I set up the telescope and here comes this thing - from behind the mountains where Groom Lake was and it flitted around and I'm trying to focus this 8" Celestron telescope which was very difficult.
A - Bad idea!
J - But finally I go tit and I saw a disk that was oriented about 45 degrees to the horizon and it was glowing - it was yellowish orange and it was glowing - and it was settling back down behind the mountains and I said, "Quick Gene - take a look, (laughs) and as I stepped back from the telescope, I hooked the tripod leg and go tit off ... off the focus and of course, there's a big laugh about that - a nd at one time I had those tapes - all those tapes, but I'm moving out of my house now and I stored everything in the garage as far as tapes and UFO books, all the documents and everything and somebody came and stole half of it, including my UFO books and everything and I don't know who it was and I don't' expect it ... you know ... I think it was just an accident that somebody took that stuff and that tape is gone.
A - Well . a telescope of that power would actually give you pretty good resolution - if you really managed to get it and old the focus ..(unintelligible)
J - Well, I saw it - it was perfect. No doubt about it.
A - How much could you see beyond a glowing disk, John?
J - That was it!
A - That was it! No further details of the craft itself? Could you even estimate from distance - the size?
A - I've got a computer here and people can send questions as we go along and somebody is asking, "Well! That proves that Bob knew the schedule roughly of what was happening up there, but that doesn't necessarily prove the rest of his story." How confident are you that everything that you were told by Bob was right on the money?
J – You know - I'm confident that everything he told me was true and I've heard that argument also several times ... that he knew the schedule - but also and that maybe he was just a cook up there - so if he was a cook ... that means that they told the cooks when they were going to fly the flying saucers.
A - laughs - Yeah! That's a very good point - a very good point. But I'm gonna ...
J - There is no way I can prove all that happened, but I can just say ... "I believe it!"
Originally posted by subliminal1284
Also Bab Lazaar is a fraud.
Originally posted by zorgon
And when a 'story' leads you directly to a source like Shiva Nova, then it is no longer a 'story' but a verifiable fact.
So until you have independent confirmation or have followed the leads to the source... a 'story' is just that a good 'story'
Originally posted by Arbitrageur
What is a Shiva Nova? I googled it and came up with various links like this and they are not what you're referring to I'm sure...
Originally posted by Mintwithahole.If you can provide proof then you owe it to us all to share it with us without asking for a fee. If you don't you're just as bad as those who hide the truth from us.
Originally posted by Mintwithahole.
If you can provide proof then you owe it to us all to share it with us without asking for a fee.
Originally posted by Mintwithahole.
Wouldn't you agree?
Originally posted by zorgon
Okay so now what do you do?
Originally posted by zorgon
Originally posted by Mintwithahole.
Wouldn't you agree?
Nope I see no valid reason as to why the public deserves to know the truth
What good would it do?
President dude steps up to the podium, say "Errr we have been lying to yawl and the aliens are real"
Okay so now what do you do?
[edit on 22-7-2009 by zorgon]
Originally posted by Mintwithahole. Why on earth do you post on this site when you aren't after the truth?
I thought this is what it was all about, creating enough pressure that the truth leaks out!
Zorgon, surely you are not that apathetic that you don't care whether or not the truth comes to light?
I've followed your posts for quite some time now and while I don't agree with all of your conclusions I readily accept you call it as you see it.
Do you really think yours, or mine, viewpoint doesn;t matter?
Originally posted by Mintwithahole.I can only hope that your depressed feelings are temporary and you will soon continue your quest to reveal the truth.