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Simcox said he hopes to hold construction costs to between $125 and $150 a foot, since labor and equipment will be donated.
The Minuteman group envisions fencing fashioned after an Israeli design.
It would include a 6-foot deep trench to keep vehicles from crashing through, concertina wire and two 15-foot-high heavy-gauge steel mesh fences with the tops angled outward and separated by an unpaved dirt road. It also would have inexpensive mounted video cameras.
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Originally posted by ceci2006
But, they are sitting on the border with their shotguns.
Originally posted by ceci2006
In a way, they do remind me of the KKK. For both groups, common citizens fight a "racial menace" in order for "self-preservation" and Americanism. Except for all that I've heard about the Minutemen is that there is no Christian doctrine to back up what they are doing. But it's the harrassment of another race just the same. They are feeding into the frezy of xenophobia and it is working.
Originally posted by ceci2006
And the usual law-abiding folk congratulate them because they act out their fantasies of "purifying" the United States in a time of drastic social change and economic deficit. To me, the Minutemen are less worrisome than the silent minority who supports them.
Originally posted by ceci2006
The silent minority who accepts and lauds their behavior are also willingly complicit in supporting the same "cold, subtle intimidation" that has wreaked havoc with race-relations.
Originally posted by marg6043
I do not trust the minuteman due to its shady beginnings and its founders.
But at least they are doing something that is needed and they are bringing the issue of our borders to front stage.
Yes, like any militia group I imagine that the FBI and other agencies are keeping very taps on what they do.
Originally posted by Hamburglar
Who have they shot? Who have they beat up? What law are they violating? And why would you even attempt to suggest that they let law enforcement “handle it”? Do you understand that the entire point of the Minutemen is to embarrass law enforcement/government into “handling it”? Apparently not.
Let me break it down for you (hopefully you won’t label me a racist and dismiss me too). The federal and various state and local governments have tied the hands of law enforcement to do anything about illegal immigration. The few border patrol agents we have aren’t capable of adequately repelling the flow of illegal immigrants. And, in some cases, they are told not to go after border-crossers. So, the Minutemen sit there “on the border with their shotguns.” They sit and wait. If they see someone illegally crossing the border, they sit there. They call the border patrol to come apprehend the person. In most cases they won’t even approach the person.
The primary aim of the Minutemen is the shame the government into policing the borders, providing the appropriate resources to law enforcement personnel, and getting rid of laws designed to protect illegal immigrants at the expense of law-abiding, taxpaying citizens. They don’t sit there for fun. They sit there in protest.
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from ceci2006
It is equally scary to note in the article that Mr. Bush has tried to cater to them.
But I am glad that Southern Poverty Law Center is monitoring them. Because if they are righteous as they say they are and if an incident occurs between one member and an undocumented worker, then they will have the burden of proof to demonstrate that they are not a racist organization.
I just am troubled that the Minutemen's actions could help launch a new wave of racial extremism in a country torn apart by race.
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And the usual law-abiding folk congratulate them because they act out their fantasies of "purifying" the United States in a time of drastic social change and economic deficit. To me, the Minutemen are less worrisome than the silent minority who supports them. The silent minority who accepts and lauds their behavior are also willingly complicit in supporting the same "cold, subtle intimidation" that has wreaked havoc with race-relations.
from soficrow
Reminds me of the rise of the KKK back in the early 1900's. Same issues, same manipulations, same response.
Originally posted by ceci2006
In also addressing jsobecky's and Hamburgular's concerns about the racial intent of the Minutemen, I just have some questions to ask.
These are just inquiries. I want to know what people's honest opinions are.
Originally posted by ceci2006
1)What other race has the Minutemen targeted besides Latinos and Latinas?
Originally posted by ceci2006
2)What is not racialized about the behavior of the Minutemen? I mean, despite "kicking out racists", how else have they demonstrated that they do not possess a racist intent in their message and actions?