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5 ton coke bust- planes owners- Tom Delays appointee, and CIA?

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posted on Jun, 13 2006 @ 06:46 PM
Interesting. I've been looking into Genesis Aviation a bit - though not a massive amount yet, just figuring out basic dates of the company's history - and some odd things are showing up which is probably just due to inaccurate information in records - and/or FAA records.

N120NE is documented on as being owned by Genesis Aviation roughly between January 2000 and September 2004. Only problem is, Genesis Aviation went out of business October 22, 2002. So, the FAA records must have still shown them as the owners until some point between September 2004 and July 2005, when SkyWay and Royal Sons showed up as the owners.

The SkyWay logos first appeared in photos in September 2004. The last photograph before those stickers appeared was October 24, 2002, two days after Genesis Aviation was dissolved.

Perhaps not extremely relevant information, except to remind everyone that not all records are factual - whether intentionally or unintentionally. SkyWay was operating the airplane some time before the records began showing they actually owned it.

As a humorous sidenote, if you recall my post some time ago regarding the National Cooperative Tower Network SkyWay claims is helping them out of bankruptcy, and how a google search for them turns up no results, though they claim to be industry leaders since the 1980s... I must retract that statement. A google search for them now returns one result. This thread... my post saying that a search for them returns no results.

posted on Jun, 14 2006 @ 11:08 AM
I've been looking through the Inclusion Technologies subsidiaries in greater detail. Inclusion Technologies, for those who may have forgotten, was the company which started what became SkyWay Communications Holding Corporation., Inc., of which Ms. Jamee Kalimi was Director, has had two previous names. Most interestingly, its original name was Shell Corporations, Inc.. Very interesting indeed, and I'll certainly be looking more into that later today. It then changed its name to Atlas Ventures XV, Inc., which of course, links it back to our good friend Michael Farkas. And then, finally, it became, Inc. According to the Florida Division of Corporations, it is still an active company, but I don't believe it is truly active anymore. At least not from anything I have seen.

Florida Division of Corporations Name History for, Inc.

Mostly, however, I found the Shell Corporations, Inc. to be rather telling. I certainly would like to find some SEC filings from the time they were named that to see what they claimed their intentions to be.

posted on Jun, 14 2006 @ 11:24 AM
I think you are on to something there with Shell corporations inc...

Wouldn't the name pretty much say it...
here is what wiki describes as a shell corp.
"Shell corp"

Many times a shell corporation is used to give respectability to a new business... they just buy a prepackaged, aged shell, just like you would buy a car...

Many times shells are formed to cover or distract from what the "inner business" does...

I have seen them used in my industry, as well as others, usually by people doing "gray market" business...
business that is "who you know" and "what you know about them" based...
usually relating to exclusive or secret sources for product

posted on Jun, 14 2006 @ 12:16 PM
Haven't found much more about Shell Corporations, Inc., but in my searches for that, I found more information on Wisedriver and by extension, even more interesting stuff yet.

The two majority shareholders of Wisedriver were Michael Farkas and Shimon Fishman. Shimon Fishman is in charge of The Atlas Group of Companies, Inc., which means he's undoubtedly a subordinate of Farkas.

So, when searching for his name - which returned very few results - I got to this interesting page.

It talks about how Yahoo removed a mailing list discussing a company referred to as CCS in order to stop them from discussing the company and posting (public) SEC documents. Apparently the company sued or threatened to sue to have them removed and Yahoo complied. There is a list of CCS subsidiaries on that page. To name a few, Homeland Security Strategies, Inc.; Counter Spy Shop of Mayfair London, Ltd.; Security Design Group, Inc.

So that peaked my interest. But then I remembered that I had gotten there looking for information on Mr. Fishman. So I searched down the page for Shimon Fishman and found...

10.6 Consulting Agreement, dated as of July 2, 2003, by and between the Registrant and Shimon Fishman. (6)


Obligation. FOR VALUE RECEIVED, the undersigned, Security Intelligence Technologies, Inc., a Florida corporation ("Borrower") hereby promises to pay to the order of Shimon S. Fishman, a resident of the State of New York, ("Lender" or "Holder") on or before June 30, 2005 (the "Maturity Date"), at Lender's principal place of business at c/o The Atlas Group of Companies, LLC 135 East 57th Street, 26th Floor, New York, New York 10022...

It would appear they or a subsidiary or related company worked with a Farkas company and were also threating a lawsuit to remove negative information about their company from the internet.

posted on Jun, 14 2006 @ 05:37 PM

Originally posted by thermopolis
It is amazing the length of remote connection some will go to "demonize" Tom Delay.

So let me get it here.................

Tom appoints "someone" to a "minor" political position 13 years ago, who now is part owner in a plane someone else used to smuggle coke.

Get a life............................

Yeah! And the plot thickens from there, He SOLD the plane, what did he do with the cash?? Hmmm????

People, you really need to get a grip!

posted on Jun, 14 2006 @ 05:43 PM

Originally posted by curiousity
Yeah! And the plot thickens from there, He SOLD the plane, what did he do with the cash?? Hmmm????

People, you really need to get a grip!

Actually, if you were to read the entirety of the thread, you would find that we have been investigating the owners of the aircraft and connected entities, not the connection to Tom DeLay. The thread title is misleading, I believe, as anyone with money can be appointed to the Business Advisory Council. There is a Daily Show segment where a porn producer got appointed to the BAC by paying the Republican Party a certain fee. The connection to Tom DeLay is not the relevant part of the investigation at this point.

posted on Jun, 14 2006 @ 05:47 PM

Originally posted by LoganCale

Originally posted by curiousity
Yeah! And the plot thickens from there, He SOLD the plane, what did he do with the cash?? Hmmm????

People, you really need to get a grip!

Actually, if you were to read the entirety of the thread, you would find that we have been investigating the owners of the aircraft and connected entities, not the connection to Tom DeLay. The thread title is misleading, I believe, as anyone with money can be appointed to the Business Advisory Council. There is a Daily Show segment where a porn producer got appointed to the BAC by paying the Republican Party a certain fee. The connection to Tom DeLay is not the relevant part of the investigation at this point.

INTERESTING! Did I mention Tom Delay?, wasn't it his political appointee who sold the plane to someone who...whatever, whatever, whatever????

And the wording of the posts keep bringing TD up. Why is that? Is this a smear campaign, could we possibly be seeing here a little of the ol' spin-eroo?

posted on Jun, 14 2006 @ 06:01 PM

Originally posted by curiousity
INTERESTING! Did I mention Tom Delay?, wasn't it his political appointee who sold the plane to someone who...whatever, whatever, whatever????

And the wording of the posts keep bringing TD up. Why is that? Is this a smear campaign, could we possibly be seeing here a little of the ol' spin-eroo?

The post you quoted mentioned Tom DeLay.

Brent Kovar was not a political appointee of Tom DeLay's. He was given a title as a member of the Business Advisory Council for a fee he paid the Republican Party. The Business Advisory Council, as stated on their website, is "a small, prestigious group of conservative businessmen and women, who have joined with the NRCC to advocate a progressive, conservative, pro-business agenda."

Additionally, I have not seen references to Tom DeLay in this thread since many pages ago. If he continues to be brought up, it is false. Tom DeLay is not a good person, and he was involved in many corrupt things, but this is not one of them. Anyone with money can get on the Business Advisory Council.

Also, Brent Kovar, the president of SkyWay who was appointed to the BAC, did not ever sell the aircraft, at least directly. SkyWay went bankrupt due to their investors discovering they were running a scam, pulling out, and suing them. The aircraft then became fully owned by Royal Sons, who claim to have sold it. It was flown directly from their headquarters in Clearwater, Florida to Caracas, Venezuela, where it stayed for several days before flying to Mexico where it was captured with the coc aine.

Does that implicate Royal Sons or SkyWay? Not directly. But SkyWay had another of their aircraft captured with drugs on board several years previous. That makes them look suspicious. And Royal Sons' refusal to mention who they sold the aircraft to might not be a direct implication, but it's certainly enough to warrant further investigation.

That's all this is. Research and investigation. No one is drawing any conclusions at this point. It's discussion and cooperative research. I don't quite understand the criticism and attempt at deflection to make this look like a political attack.

[EDIT: Fixed my grammar a bit and added a few missing words.]

[edit on 14-6-2006 by LoganCale]

posted on Jun, 15 2006 @ 09:38 PM
Titan Corporation is indeed closely connected into all of this, it would appear.

In 2000, Inclusion Technologies, or, as it was known then,, Inc., was given around $70,000 from Titan Corp and then repaid it to them with 1,113,627 shares of their stock.

In 2002, Titan Corp was a shareholder of Genesis Realty. This used to be i-RealtyAuction, a subsidiary of Inclusion Technologies.

As of 2003, Titan Corp was a shareholder of Security Intelligence Technologies. Security Intelligence Technologies owned the companies I listed a few posts back where someone else was investigating them. One of Michael Farkas' companies merged with it.

In 2004, SkyWay Communications announced a deal with Titan to sell SkyWay's product to the US Government. Titan said they saw SkyWay's product in action and, since I happen to believe SkyWay had no product, that would lead me to conclude that Titan may be in on the whole thing. Or SkyWay fakes tech demos really well.

I haven't even looked into the rest of the SkyWay/Michael Farkas related companies that Titan has been a shareholder in. Just came across another. Concept Digital, Inc.

I believe these shell companies may be operating for the purpose of laundering money. For example, take this from a i-RealtyAuction document.

On December 6, 1999, i-Realty agreed to sell to Global Realty Management an amount equal to thirty percent of the issued and outstanding shares of i-Realty for a purchase price of $30,000 and 500,000 restricted common shares of Global Realty Management Group, Inc. Pursuant to the
Agreement, i-Realty owns 500,000 shares of Global Realty Management Group, Inc. (OTCBB:GRMG) which is publicly traded company on the OTC Electronic Bulletin Board.


At the time of that sale, i-Realty stock was worth $0.0001. Global Realty got 1,500,000 shares. That's $150. But i-Realty got $30,000 on top of their 500,000 shares of Global Realty - whose value at the time I do not know. That's a rather odd difference. Oh, and Global Realty is also owned by Farkas. So it seems like they're just using the cover of a stock sale to transfer money around between companies.

posted on Jun, 16 2006 @ 10:01 AM
Good work Logan...

Now as soon as we can prove that Tom delay is George Bush and Mike Farkas love child, then we will be able to take down this rotten cabal led by Tom...

just poking fun at those that dont read the thread before posting...

We all do it sometimes...

Titan was the point of reference that I commented about further up.
They are presently involved in a scam scandal against the pentagon, that has cost the military budget much needed bucks that was allocated to purchasing armor for humvees...
Instead Titan "forced" a sale of a unneeded and grossly overpriced software program. Wouldn't be so bad, if at least one person at the pentagon was trained to use it... What a waste...
Just pointing out that Titan is bad news... Willing to rip of the pentagon. A honor they purchased thru political connections.

Now enter a certain 9-11 informant, that was arrested for his connection to 9-11, and was released by the FBI pulling strings (was a informant), and went on to work at Titan... (total details at the Daniel Hopsicker article)
Makram Cham's
The Index of the rabbit hole-

[edit on 16-6-2006 by LazarusTheLong]

posted on Jul, 6 2006 @ 01:33 PM
There is a new Hopsicker article up, if people haven't seen it yet. Link

The most interesting parts are the FAA file of N900SA that he was finally able to get his hands on and the former SkyWay employee who contacted him. Items of note:

The document requesting transfer of ownership out of the United States, while dated April 7, was faxed to the FAA by Fredric J. Geffon of Royal Sons on April 11, the day after the seizure. It's not hard to type an old date on a letter.

The bill of sale for the aircraft indicates SkyWay and Royal Sons purchased N900SA in May 2004. But the FAA records were not updated to indicate that change until August 2005. I believe I made note of this discrepancy previously as well with the photographs from compared with SEC filings.

Apparently on his own authority, Geffon transferred the plane into the name of his company, Royal Sons Inc.


A spokesman for a lawyer working closely with the Bankruptcy Trustee for bankrupt SkyWay states they can find no record that Geffon paid SkyWay for the plane.


The transaction is currently the subject of litigation in Federal Bankruptcy Court in Tampa. “The bankruptcy trustee said, ‘these planes are grounded,’” the former SkyWay employee told us.


Another interesting bit about painting the jets to look like official government aircraft.

“I read what you wrote about having two planes tricked out to look like they belonged to Homeland Security,” stated the longtime SkyWay employee.

“Everyone working there thought, there ain’t no way they’re going to get away with that. We couldn’t believe it. How in the hell is the government letting us get away with that?”

“They also had a half-dozen black hummers tricked out the same way,” he said.

“Big seal on the side, lights and sirens on the top. Finally some local cops pulled the hummers over, and made them take the seals and lights off.

“But nobody ever said anything about the planes.”


It also appears the Mexican newspapers are still looking into it somewhat while everyone else has long drifted away from the story.

Hopsicker says there will be a new article up today (though the current one was supposed to be posted Monday and didn't get up until Tuesday night) with the identity of the pilot of N900SA. Should be interesting.

posted on Jul, 6 2006 @ 02:57 PM
Greetings logan... thanks for posting the update, and bringing us up to speed.

to our readers,
I would urge skeptism regarding new info...
The damage controllers of the program have had lots of time, to set the stage behind the scenes to "reveal" new directions in information...
Not saying that is what this is, but double check the info (you are superb at that, Logan)

Hopsicker has done a marvelous job, but this new article introduces new players, that i have never heard of before... One would think they would be mentioned before now.

Let us not forget that this has been actively squelched by the MSM, (and any mention neglects the CIA front connection)
Also, we are seeing a program that follows in the exacting footsteps of the Mena arkansas Iran/Contra crew... including the locale of the operation to people who could oversee it... (Ark- clinton, florida- ??? Gee... anyone know any "affiliated" politicians in florida to the previous Mena crew? :lol
Daniel makes mention of one obvious florida political connection... but stops from naming further names, so i will also... but ATSers dont have to look far...

and dont forget... Hugo Chavez ditched the coordinated anti drug campaign, because he knew who really ran the smuggling... and it wasn't him.

[edit on 6-7-2006 by LazarusTheLong]

posted on Jul, 7 2006 @ 10:01 AM
I am still finding nothing on James Kent...
maybe i am blind, or googlely challenged, but i did find the name base page for Skyways aircraft leasing...(i beleive they were the connected same name company?)
name data base connections for Skyway A.L.

from best i can tell, the names data base, uses the same type technology of names connection, as some of the tools used by the "agencies" to associate people who try to avoid public connections.

Basically, they will show that A knows B and B knows C, where A&C might also know each other thru B, but not "publically"

A lot of Big names, and alot of mentions of agency history.

Ok, i saw your link on the SEC filing mentioning James Kent ... it gave me an idea to research the company "Booz, Allen & Hamilton", which Mr Kent apparently came from, previous to Skyways (late 90's with B.A.H)

Again, we see a "one phone call to the president" level of connection...
This from the stock profile website:source:

When President Bush wonders whether the Pentagon should take over the CIA's paramilitary functions, Booz Allen Hamilton is the company that the Pentagon turns to for an answer (the company concluded that the spy agency should keep its paramilitary force). When the Air Force wants to study how best to get information from a battleground to a fighter jet, it turns to Booz Allen Hamilton with the $9 billion job. With such clients, Booz Allen, which marked its 90th anniversary last year, is mum about much of its business. Aside from U.S. government contracts — its biggest source of revenue — the company has a wide portfolio.
The National Institute of Child Health and Human Development recently tapped the company to conduct a study of the effects of environmental factors on the heath and development of more than 100,000 children in the United States. The contract is worth $13.2 million over five years.

Slightly spooky isn't it... when we know what Mr Kent has been up to as of late...
(remember, they mentioned the same "smuggling operation" had passed thru the exact same corridor, at least 7 times before.)
I think it is safe to assume, that this is all business as usual for Skyways, regardless of what the present owners claim...

[edit on 7-7-2006 by LazarusTheLong]

posted on Jul, 7 2006 @ 12:45 PM
Jim Kent was the CEO of Sky Way Aircraft while Brent Kovar was the President. When they merged with SkyWay Communications, Kent became CEO of SkyWay Communications as well, if I recall correctly. He's one of the people I haven't done any deep digging on just yet, so that may be a good place to focus our attention, especially after seeing what you've found on him so far. That's very interesting.

But here, for the time being, are other documents showing Mr. Kent's connection to SkyWay:

Additionally, regarding SkyWay Aircraft Leasing: I have yet to find any real evidence linking them together. I'll get together all I have on the connection later when I have the time and look over it again, but there isn't much showing a connection other than the fact that they both have connections to the government and have a similar name.

[edit on 7-7-2006 by LoganCale]

posted on Jul, 9 2006 @ 11:00 PM
What first I thought would be a good lead has turned up nothing so far.

The bill of sale for N900SA contains the signatures of two gentlemen from HW Aviation, the sellers. Geoffrey J. Hodgson and Jeffrey Wolfson. There are a few references of people with that name online, but no indication that they are, in fact, the correct people and no relevant data at any rate. If anyone else knows any other neat tricks to find information about people, do try to look up information on them. Of course, they could just be nonexistent as well.

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posted on Jul, 10 2006 @ 12:23 PM
Actually, I believe I have found Geoffrey Hodgson. I recalled that HW Aviation filed for Chapter 11 in Chicago, so I seached for Geoffrey Hodgsons and Jeffrey Wolfsons in the Chicago area and found two that lived fairly close to each other. Did a google search for the phone number of Geoffrey Hodgson and found my way to the website of Jet America. I particularly like their motto: "Travel Solutions for the Uncommon Traveler"

Unfortunately, that's about all the site has on it. They are listed as a registered corporation in the Illinois Corporation / LLC search, but it doesn't give any relevant information. But I'm going to go ahead and say that it's most likely the same person, being the only person with that name in the Chicago area and also being connected to an aircraft company.

The only thing I've found on the probable Jeffrey Wolfson is that he contributed $1000 to the Responsibility Opportunity Community PAC on September 10, 2001 and was self-employed at the time and apparently a 'trader'. For comparison, the first known record of HW Aviation owning N900SA is November 18, 2001.

posted on Jul, 10 2006 @ 01:52 PM
WHOIS lists the contact for his jetamerica website as:
Stephen McCabe of 27W225 Providence Lane, Winfield, Illinois
and some new phone numbers...

HW aviation was the original owner, and wasn't it also supposed to be connected to the former President Bush Sr? I am sure they were listed as a CIA front company though.
(The length of this thread is ungainly, i forgotten some of the info I have even posted)

I found absolutley nada on the company itself... there appears to be other jetamerica companies, with various forms of incorporation that are not affiliated...

Are we ready to tie this thing up tight for the Conspiracy masters?

posted on Jul, 10 2006 @ 02:06 PM
This is all I know about HW Aviation:

Sometime between November 2000 and November 2001, they purchased N900SA from Aircraft 45775, Inc. (Which may or may not have been their own corporation - nothing is known about that company.) February 2, 2004, HW Aviation filed for bankruptsy in Chicago, and May 1, 2004, they sold N900SA to Royal Sons.

Then, March 17, 2005, they registered N522DD (FAA Records | FlightAware tracking) to an address in Dunedin, Florida (Google Maps) which is also the address of David L. Wallace, an architect.

And that's it. The "HW" in the name may suggest a connection to the Hilliard-Williams family which Jeb Bush is posing with in this picture. But that's just speculation at this point.

posted on Jul, 10 2006 @ 04:01 PM

Originally posted by LoganCale
The "HW" in the name may suggest a connection to the Hilliard-Williams family which Jeb Bush is posing with in this picture. But that's just speculation at this point.

The "HW" could be from Geoffrey J. Hodgson and Jeffrey Wolfson, I think it is a simpler explanation.

posted on Jul, 10 2006 @ 04:30 PM
Indeed it is.

Funny, missing that which is right in front of me. It's undoubtedly Hodgson / Wolfson Aviation. Good catch.

Update: HW Aviation's registered agent in Florida is Ulmer Holdings, LLC, which is owned by David L. Wallace, Sr. and David L. Wallace, Jr. David L. Wallace, as mentioned above, was listed as having the same address as the new HW Aviation. Interestingly, however, Hodgson and Wolfson are not mentioned in the records, but a Donald S. Howell is listed as a manager.

HW Aviation, LLC

Ulmer Holdings, LLC

The Wallaces are also connected to David L. Wallace and Associates, P.A.; Insourceone, Inc.; and Holiday Ventures, Inc. Ulmer Holdings appears to only be connected to HW Aviation. A Wikipedia search for Ulmer says this: "Ulmann, Ullmann, Ullman is a surname, originated from "Ulmer Mann" (person or pedigree from Ulm, Germany)."

Update II: One thing I previously forgot to mention is that on the FlightAware page for N522DD you can see that it is very active flying from the St. Petersburg/Clearwater airport to various other locations. Obviously, airplanes in that area are going to be using that airport, I just find it a bit interesting that a company with the same name as the one which sold N900SA to Royal Sons is flying an aircraft out of the same airport now. I'd sure like to see where N522DD is parked. They might not be connected to the other HW Aviation, but I think there's a fair chance they are.

[edit on 10-7-2006 by LoganCale]

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