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reply posted on 2-6-2006 @ 03:34 PM by LazarusTheLong
Also, a great read...
hopstickers website has been updated...
Oh boy, we gonna have some fun now kiddies...
(thanks dgtempe)

drug plane belonged to CIA

I especially like the part about a match.com profile...
although you will want to respond to it, please dont...
i have some ideas to try first... and if the hand is revealed, then the profile will dissapear...




[edit on 2-6-2006 by LazarusTheLong]


reply posted on 12-6-2006 @ 02:47 PM by LoganCale
I've been looking into the whole James Bath thing and he's indeed an interesting fellow.

Suspended from Texas Air National Guard on September 1, 1972, one month after George W. Bush's suspension. Both for the same reason. But when the White House released the document showing that, they blacked out Bath's name. Someone had previously gotten the document through FOIA, however, and released it.
Link to uncensored document

He went on to work with Bush in several business endeavors, which I haven't looked into much yet.

Then, July 8, 1976, Bath became Salem bin Laden's representative, as shown in this document. Bath purchased the Houston Gulf Airport for Salem bin Laden - something I'd like to look into a bit. The airport does not exist now, but perhaps it was used for smuggling at some point.

No direct connections between the two SkyWays that I've seen yet, but I shall continue searching.


reply posted on 12-6-2006 @ 08:32 PM by LoganCale
Additionally, if there was any doubt regarding agonizer's post on Curshen and the alias MasterJon - I'm not saying there was, it was just a clever way to start a post with additional information - I found a large number of posts by that alias and variants - some directly under "Jonathan Curshen" - which I'm not going to post because of their content, but some contained a photograph. At this link there is a photograph of him from 2005. (Inline thumbnails are hosted on my site, as is one of the linked full size images)



And here's the 7 - 10 year old photograph of MasterJon that's been posted around. Most of the direct links going to it were dead, but fortunately archive.org still had a copy up.



Definitely the same guy, especially if you click to see them full size.

From the things he posts, he's a disturbing person. Interestingly, he also appears to have posted on penny stock newsgroups in the past. Now I just have to remember his connection to all of this. I seem to have forgotten and I never wrote it down before. Oh well, it's in this thread somewhere.


reply posted on 12-6-2006 @ 11:54 PM by desert
Logan
Penny stock fraud...now where did I run into this stuff a while back
first a story like here
www.phillyimc.org...

then your post led me to here, a verrry long read
www.stlimc.org...

These people are way out of the average person's league when it comes to greed, fraud, generally no morals. The average citizen is good and that, unfortunately at times, can color their world into believing people in power must be, too.



reply posted on 13-6-2006 @ 10:06 AM by agonizer
LoganCale,

Not offended at all. Skepticism is healthy. I convinced myself SM-John was Red Sea's Curshen and that e-mail and IP-addresses used by Curshen and posting archives on Usenet and Yahoo link everything together. Curshen's sexual preferences maybe does say something about his character, but it is not important for the drug haul. That's why I didn't bother to put up more details here.

Curshen is one of the big players in Red Sea Management. The $7M (including a DC-9) off-shore 'DuPont' investor that pumped money in troubled Sky Way in 2004 used the same Costa Rican address as Red Sea Management does. That's the only link I know of.

Red Sea Management and people involved link to, or are associated with, murky business dealings and murky persons. I consider some of the things found on the internet about Curshen to be rumours, like that his office is on top of the Israeli embassy.

If you consider the confiscated planes in 2004 and 2006, both linked to Sky Way and narcotics trafficking, the idea might come to mind that the $7M investment was a payment for logistical services rendered or an attempt to keep up the Sky Way cover for hiding illegal activities.

Since most observers seem to agree Sky Way's official business potential didn't seem to look like anything that would have justified the $7M investment, this transaction seems at least suspect. Off-shore constructions are generally used to hide the real ownership of assets for several reasons. Not all use of offshore financial constructions are forbidden by law, but it can give cover for illegally obtained assets, tax evasion and other money laundering activities, including ofcourse drug money.

Strange detail is the N900SA was flying with the Sky Way logo before -according to the SEC documents- the 'DuPont-deal' was signed. The to Sky Way registered N391SA confiscated in 2004 is not mentioned in any of Sky Way's SEC filings. A $100.000 down payment for another never actually acquired plane however is.

BTW I am interested in being involved in the research project. There are so many facets to this story that it really requires a team to investigate.


reply posted on 13-6-2006 @ 12:46 PM by agonizer
Here you can find the address of Red Sea Management related 'offshorebanking.co.cr'.

Offshore Banking.co.cr
Apdo 10455-1000
Tel: +506-258-6464
Fax: +506-258-6060 +506-257-9345
Toll Free USA 800-498-5052
Email:info@offshorebanking.co.cr


Here another 2002 reference:

The Offshore Specialists Management, Ltd
Apdo 10455-1000
San Jose, Costa Rica
+506-258-6464
+506-258-6060 Fax
info@redseamanagement.com
www.redseamanagement.com


Here a complete Alabama Against Fraud topic on Curshen


reply posted on 13-6-2006 @ 01:37 PM by Deus_Brandon
Originally posted by truthseeka
Originally posted by YIAWETA
It's an old fund raising method for more campaign contra-butions. Old man Bush would make Tony Montana look like a corner crack dealer with all the flake he's moved over the last twenty five years.




So true. But, do you think Baby Bush makes Tony's cokehead wife look like an occasion user?

So, it seems that the best criminals today are white, educated (somewhat in some cases ), and politicians. This works, because the uneducated, umemployed blacks get blamed for it all. So, maybe the brothers on the block should get educated, become politicians, and continue to be criminals.



Yeah, right; if you had a chance to get educated in the hood, you wouldn't go back to a life of crime afterwards. You gotta admit, though, it's a helluva system. Just like the drug war. Govt is the biggest dealer around, but locks you up with a dime bag on the street. Then, they make money off of you, through the courts and through the jail/prison system. So, they get money from the dope, the fines, and the system that processes your ass and uses you if you get caught in it.

Now THAT is the ultimate hustle.


The funny thing is that these kids that are Hustlers that go to jail are hustlers because of one reason. There parents brought them up aroudn the drug they are hustling. And there parents kids brought them up that way. And one starts using it then the others ... then more ... and as time goes on Clientale builds as well. And you have these people that every time they see you they wanna Holla at you. I know this from first hand experience one of my good friends was trying to stop hustling and he just couldn't not because of the drug per se. But because every where he went someone would ask him ... let me get a half .. let me get this ... let me get this ... and all he woudl have to do is go pick it up from his so called "FRIENDS" that would just give him the substance ... and then he would turn around and flip it and have double or triple the money he had yesterday and he didn't even have to do anythign ... Accept drive around. This is really why that your RIGHTS are preserved as an american so drug dealers can stop anywhere any time and hustle without a police man coming up to them and asking them Squat ... I remember when the sherriff's used to be the towns friend now it just isn't quite that way ...Actually it is quite the Oposite ......................It was even hard for me to see him do this and tell him get a job get a life. When I have a job and I work everyday and he makes more than I make in a month in a couple nights ... Depending on how much driving aroudn he wanted to do ... Kinda sad for the kid ... ... Wish there was something to tell him ... But what could you tell someone who has been doing this ... for the last 6 years and has been caught know what the concequences are and just figures it is worth the risk for him ???? If anyone has any information I could give him it would be interesting to see what he says to it .... or what he does not say .... rather .....
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