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Originally posted by spamandham
I did not claim that all Christians are incapable of separating religion and politics, although my limited experience does suggest most are.
Originally posted by roger_pearse
One need merely observe that demands to adopt an official religious position in the US have entirely come from those advocating secularism.
Roger Pearse
Originally posted by fourddream
All souls who accept others will unite in this spirit.
There is only one path the path of total love and acceptance of all things (the many paths) this narrow path runs as a red tape through all broader paths.
Jezus tried to tell us this but they tried in turn to make him just another spoke on the garbage tip.
Originally posted by saint4God
Originally posted by fourddream
All souls who accept others will unite in this spirit.
There is only one path the path of total love and acceptance of all things (the many paths) this narrow path runs as a red tape through all broader paths.
Jezus tried to tell us this but they tried in turn to make him just another spoke on the garbage tip.
Hm, let's see what Christ says then. "I have come to bring fire on the earth, and how I wish it were already kindled! But I have a baptism to undergo, and how distressed I am until it is completed! Do you think I came to bring peace on earth? No, I tell you, but division. From now on there will be five in one family divided against each other, three against two and two against three. They will be divided, father against son and son against father, mother against daughter and daughter against mother, mother-in-law against daughter-in-law and daughter-in-law against mother-in-law." - Luke 12:49
"If the world hates you, keep in mind that it hated me first. If you belonged to the world, it would love you as its own. As it is, you do not belong to the world, but I have chosen you out of the world." - John 15:18
Doesn't sound like the voice of accepting all things.
[edit on 24-1-2006 by saint4God]
[edit on 24-1-2006 by saint4God]
Originally posted by fourddream
Who accepts all things will always eventually be accepted by all
Originally posted by fourddream
Heaven is by definition inclusive and harmonic.
Unity is only possible in acceptance.
A devided house is just that, a devided house.
There is the exclusive spirit which neither respects nor tolerates the existance of others.
Who are you that one should require your tolerence when one has God to thank for their existance.
In the end we judge ourselves when we choose to enter the Kingdom or don't for spite of others that do.
A.
Originally posted by saint4God
Are you saying that the above are the word of God? I don't get the relevancy to this thread.
Originally posted by LCKob
... who are you asking? Fordream?, (me)LCkob?, BlackguardXIII?
Originally posted by saint4God
Originally posted by LCKob
... who are you asking? Fordream?, (me)LCkob?, BlackguardXIII?
If the shoe fits.
Originally posted by LCKob
well, I am asking are you giving me a shoe to try on?
Originally posted by LCKob
Just as you asked Fourddream to clarify his response?
LCKob
Originally posted by saint4God
Originally posted by LCKob
well, I am asking are you giving me a shoe to try on?
Sorry, didn't mean to be vague. It seems there are a lot of comments and affirmation to fourdream's philosophical snippets. Being that we're talking (or supposed to be talking) about the Bible and whether or not it is the word of God, I was wondering how these seemingly personal philophies have any bearing on the discussion. The only way I could think that they do, is if someone claims that their personal philosophy (or whatever source they're using) IS the word of God and therefore the Bible, being contradictory to personal assessment, is not. BlackGuard just brought up a good point in relation to that. I'd like to take it a step furter to ask: If what fourdream or the echos states this is the case, then how would they be error-free versus the 50+ books over thousands of years who had in fact written down their hearing of God's words?
All of what I said though does not take into consideration that God is alive and present now and can be communicatd with.
Originally posted by LCKob
Just as you asked Fourddream to clarify his response?
LCKob
Sure, I think that's fair and hoped this helped.
[edit on 25-1-2006 by saint4God]