Project Serpo: Postings by "Anonymous" -- Breaking news?

Originally posted by jgbjgb

Thanx to all concerned pointing me to a photo of Richard Doty - unfortunately it looks as if I will have to buy the book to see the photo??

My apologies.

For those who do not know his face, here is Richard Doty...




Also:

Originally posted by WHOFLUNGGUM

It would be the same shameless treatment as the Peter Jennings special 'UFO's, Seeing is believing'... Even though they had many hours of testimony stating that Roswell was a gov coverup, they chose not to use any of it because it did not suit their agenda.

[Emphasis added]


For whatever it's worth, I'm still trying to figure that one out, too.

I spoke briefly with Robert Hastings last year--shortly after Jenning's program had aired--and he was equally baffled that all of the quality UFO/Nuke research he had submitted was summarily 'dumped'...

[He sent me a copy of his follow-up letter to the producer. Not a satisfied customer...]


Serpentime



[edit on 9-1-2006 by Serpentime]

Anyone notice that the website...
www.ufoconspiracy.com...

Not only looks very similar to Serpo.org, but has also copied the Serpo.org meta tags word for word?

*In case you don't know ufoconspiracy.com is actually the website of Robert Collins the author of the book Exempt from Disclosure which in my opinoin is the reason this whole serpo story exists in the first place. Create more interest...Sell more books.

Just my opinoin.

Originally posted by futureafter
Anyone notice that the website...
www.ufoconspiracy.com...

Not only looks very similar to Serpo.org, but has also copied the Serpo.org meta tags word for word?

*In case you don't know ufoconspiracy.com is actually the website of Robert Collins the author of the book Exempt from Disclosure which in my opinoin is the reason this whole serpo story exists in the first place. Create more interest...Sell more books.

Just my opinoin.

Hi, futureafter –

I think I explained this in an earlier message (way back among the previous 59 pages somewhere!). I recommended Robert Collins' book on the Serpo site not only because it has some pretty interesting information in it, but also as a very fair quid pro quo since Collins had initially been reluctant to grant copyright permission for me to post the EBE-2 interview. I felt the latter was valuable for anyone considering the Serpo account to have access to and read.

Collins is nothing to do with the origin of the Serpo account: in fact, if anything he is critical of the physics (orbital data etc) and has asserted that Anon's account contains disinformation. Anon has in turn criticized Collins on Victor Martinez's list.

Best, Bill

Originally posted by jgbjgb

Originally posted by Bill Ryan And we've heard other indications behind the scenes that many insiders know of the exchange program, though not necessarily in detail (need to know, etc). There is fire behind the smoke.

Bill, thanx for your participation here and answers - it's great!

Bill, please share some of the "other indications" with us - there is such a number of very sharp "investigators" contributing here - just now someone stumbles again onto something fascinating.

A side question - have you had any contact/discussions with Linda Howe concerning Serpo (I imagine she is on Victor's list) ?

Is it possible to tell us who the "mystery" person was that pulled out of the C2C interview?

Thanks, jgbjgb –

This is a very intelligent, high quality forum... or else I'd not still be here.

• Have you had any contact/discussions with Linda Howe concerning Serpo (I imagine she is on Victor's list)?
No I've not, and yes she is. I'd certainly welcome a dialog with Linda. As best I know she has not made her opinions known aboput Serpo. She's a researcher of very high pedigree and my personal guess – and I may be wrong – is that she's keeping her powder dry, deferring judgment until we have more data.

• Is it possible to tell us who the "mystery" person was that pulled out of the C2C interview?
Not sure what this is a reference to. Is there a "mystery person"? Dan Smith was initially willing to come on to the program to support me. The opportunity was a cancellation with just 24 hours notice – so the day before the evening broadcast, there was a lot of communication looking at who might be willing to speak on the program. Dan, who is not a well-known name, stepped aside when Rick Doty and Whitley Strieber said they'd be willing to do it (that was after I'd asked them both if they were available). Jim Marrs was also happy to come on to the program, but we never connected in time and he missed the slot. Richard Hoagland spoke on the show because he was their resident science spokesman, I believe.

• Bill, please share some of the "other indications" with us - there is such a number of very sharp "investigators" contributing here - just now someone stumbles again onto something fascinating.
This requires a long answer to do it justice. I'm not ducking out of this, but it's late at night here in the UK and I'm really quite exhausted... I'll get back to you within 24 hours with as full a response as I can. There won't be anything that I've not already shared in my various posts to date, but I do understand it might be handy for me to summarize.

Best, Bill

futureafter:

VERY Interesting... nice observation. No way tha's just a random fluke.

other bits of oddness about the site you mentioned... some pages were written using netscape composer, while others where written using frontpage, and a couple look to be very badly hand coded with cut and paste java thrown in....

I sense multiple web masters, who are mostly clueless.

great analysis,it could be the serpo site was conjured in a "lark" to get it out faster. theres a differance between quantum physics and Html

I did a search on the Whois database and found the following with concerns that Serpo.org and UFOCONSPIRACY.COM could have been created by the same person. Well, the websites are starting to look familar. Same color scheme etc.... Oh, by the way, just because one is registered in one country, does not mean that you too cannot get registered in another country!!!

And they seem to expire in the same year: 2007 hmm
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[edit on 9-1-2006 by pkrska]

Originally posted by Bill Ryan
Hi, futureafter –

I think I explained this in an earlier message (way back among the previous 59 pages somewhere!). I recommended Robert Collins' book on the Serpo site not only because it has some pretty interesting information in it, but also as a very fair quid pro quo since Collins had initially been reluctant to grant copyright permission for me to post the EBE-2 interview. I felt the latter was valuable for anyone considering the Serpo account to have access to and read.

Collins is nothing to do with the origin of the Serpo account: in fact, if anything he is critical of the physics (orbital data etc) and has asserted that Anon's account contains disinformation. Anon has in turn criticized Collins on Victor Martinez's list.

Best, Bill

Hi Bill,

Thanks for the reply. But I wasn't questioning your recommending the book on the serpo website, I was curious as to why the webpage of the author of the book has such a similar layout and has the exact same meta tags as serpo.org

Having a few similar keywords in the meta tags I'd understand as the two websites are of similar content. But there are more than a few similarities in the meta tags, they are exactly the same.

The meta keywords are as follows on BOTH sites.

Serpo, Eben, Zeta, Reticuli, Zeta Reticuli, exchange, 1965, 1978, 78, Victor, Martinez, Victor Martinez, Bill, Ryan, Bill Ryan, UFO, planet, DIA, Defense Intelligence Agency, Intelligence, Agency, Defense, Defence, EBE, EBE-2, EBE2, Roswell, Corona, Datil, Project, Project Serpo, Otto, program, exchange program, Anonymous, planet, Silus, binary, star, binary star

I'm not pointing any fingers at anyone, I just think this is a bit odd.

A bit odd? Rightly so. Why would someone copy someone elses meta tags? Well, you could do it to get the same people that hit it to also hit onto your site..

or

being that the person whom created the websites could be the same person... lazyness .. comes to mind.. as a possible reason as to why have the same meta tags.

CSI is a great show and now has produced many home made forensic investigators!!!!

[edit on 9-1-2006 by pkrska]

Originally posted by pkrska
A bit odd? Rightly so. Why would someone copy someone elses meta tags? Well, you could do it to get the same people that hit it to also hit onto your site..

or

being that the person whom created the websites could be the same person... lazyness .. comes to mind.. as a possible reason as to why have the same meta tags.

CSI is a great show and now has produced many home made forensic investigators!!!!

[edit on 9-1-2006 by pkrska]

All I can say is that the meta tags is a great find. and is something to look at. I sat here for 20 minutes trying to think what to say about it.

doubt it's the same people... I've gone through the code on both sites... bills site is pretty consistant, I would suspect one author for that one...

the other one is pretty chaotic, with a variety of authoring techniques and tools, I would suspect multiple authors for that one...

and if we had some pictures to play with we wouldn't have to pick apart bits of code *sighs*

rock on
twj

>>>>>deleted for uselessness by user

All I can say guys is: I love the whole idea, if it's true that'd be awesome. I just had the time of my life imagining it all, and mentally writing a movie in my head, it was just great. If it's false, that'd be sad, but I'll read because that was one hell of a story.

I believe in aliens, ET's, and etc. I believe we have biengs outside of our universe, but maybe in other solar systems. The articles were just fun to read.

Can I just raise the issue of the people who went to the planet and returned.

One suggestion was to list all members as being dead. This was thrown around until it was decided each Team Member selected would be listed as "missing" on the official records and discharged on the unofficial records. That way, all connections between the team and their individual service was covered.

Every single record on each Team Member selected was purged, including their Social Security records,

Internal Revenue tax returns, medical records, military records, and any other identification records were either destroyed or collected and placed in a special storage location.

Originally, about 56,000 files were screened for possible selectees. The screening process finally got down to 12. These were the best of the best. During training, which lasted roughly six months, there were 16 going through training. The four were replacements just in case one of the originals was injured or released for some other reason.

Before they left all their identities were erased from society so i read, and 7 returned.

So those who went lost their families, partners, relatives and maybe children. When they returned I expect they were not allowed to ever see them at all.

Firstly how real is this? Could anyone come back from another place and vow never to see thier child or wife or aged parents again?

Secondly why erase their identities, and just how do you do this? Did you brainwash their families that they never existed or died. What about their kids? Suddenly daddy never existed? What about school and work friends?

I know its easy to do in the movies, but in the real world, surely the ties that bind are not so easily broken.

Originally posted by Netchicken
Secondly why erase their identities, and just how do you do this? Did you brainwash their families that they never existed or died. What about their kids? Suddenly daddy never existed? What about school and work friends?

I know its easy to do in the movies, but in the real world, surely the ties that bind are not so easily broken.

I agree, but think about the selection process. Those people with close ties to friends and family are going to be withdrawn from consideration, because it will be too difficult to explain their disappearance. As well, as you noted, it might be difficult to conceal their return at some point.

But what about people who had no children, were an only child, and their parents are deceased? Not common, but not particularly rare either among people in their 40's. Even if there are just a few ties, it's not too hard to eliminate enough physical traces of this person, so that their identity may never be proven if they ever resurfaced.

I don't find this aspect of the story particularly difficult to swallow. But, then again, maybe I've been conditioned by television to some extend

Centrist

Didn't he also say that the people selected had no children or wives/husbands? And such? Please post whole sections and tell the whole truth, not half of it.

www.serpo.org...

The Team Member selection process was the hardest to accomplish. Several plans were suggested in the make-up of the team. It took several months for the planners to decide on criteria for each Team Member. They decided that each Team Member must be military. They must be single, with no children. They must be career military (over four years of service). They must have special skills.

Edit: added the quote

[edit on 9-1-2006 by Vinci]

Originally posted by Hal9000

Originally posted by TheShroudOfMemphis

Originally posted by one_small_step
Whitehouse lawn landing or nothing.!!!

I doubt that would ever happen, maybe they've have been trying thou.
This inncident last year was spun around so well that it got through without making a stir:

You know he is speaking metaphorically, as I was earlier. It is just a phrase, and they do not have to land on the White House lawn. The point is that ET can make his presence known anywhere in the World, at any time, but they don't.

Thanks for clearing that one up HAL.

Originally posted by one_small_step

Originally posted by Hal9000

Originally posted by TheShroudOfMemphis

Originally posted by one_small_step
Whitehouse lawn landing or nothing.!!!

I doubt that would ever happen, maybe they've have been trying thou.
This inncident last year was spun around so well that it got through without making a stir:

You know he is speaking metaphorically, as I was earlier. It is just a phrase, and they do not have to land on the White House lawn. The point is that ET can make his presence known anywhere in the World, at any time, but they don't.

Thanks for clearing that one up HAL.

Haha, yeah, it's funny someone would assume that a person said that literally. I would take that as an insult. However...

How WOULD they of transported the EBE's into Washington? Or how DID they? What do you guys think? By car seems good enough for me.

Just a note. When I go to Amazon and check the reviews for "Exempt from Disclosure", I noticed that except for Bill Ryan the other 9 reviewers only had this book as their only review. That is pretty strange since most of the people who review books usually have more than one review. To get 9 out of 10 of them with only one review is suspicious. And except for one 4 star review, the reviews are 5 stars and about half end their review with some kind of "must have" or these guys are the best statement or selling point.

Are they having people "pump" the book up? I'm sure some of the reviewers are legit, and I too would like to read the book. Maybe I'm just being hard on these guys because Doty's name is there, but I am a firm believer that some people in the UFO world are just trying to sell a story and not the truth. Just an observation, since I think there is a possibility that the Serpo story is made up to help sell someone's book or future book.

Richard Doty looks like a kind person, its hard to imagine him being a deceitful dog. I know he is supposed to be one though... Use to be at least.


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