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Originally posted by gingerladif this lad's (chapman) grandfather/great grandfather is who some of us think it is, then both should be made feel most welcome here at ATS; welcome to ATS Chapman.
Originally posted by Bill Ryan
My apologies if someone else has already posted this, but Chapman Pincher died last year (2005) aged 91.
Originally posted by Celtic King
BILL: I posted earlier but my posts seem to drown in amongst all the chaos that is this forum... I have a question for you... Why dont you ask to get all the info from your source before you post anymore up on your web-site? I dont mind waiting if its worth the wait - the world will still be here by the time you have it all! I dont understand all this secrecy business.... why doesnt your source say to himself.. **** it, have it all Bill, photos, scanned documents, audio tapes, transcripts, video tapes whatever... take it all Bill, KNOCK YOURSELF OUT.....I'm outta here! Whats your source got to lose?
Originally posted by Celtic KingI dont understand all this secrecy business.... why doesnt your source say to himself.. **** it, have it all Bill, photos, scanned documents, audio tapes, transcripts, video tapes whatever... take it all Bill, KNOCK YOURSELF OUT.....I'm outta here! Whats your source got to lose?
Originally posted by Celtic King
BILL: I posted earlier but my posts seem to drown in amongst all the chaos that is this forum... I have a question for you... Why dont you ask to get all the info from your source before you post anymore up on your web-site? I dont mind waiting if its worth the wait - the world will still be here by the time you have it all! I dont understand all this secrecy business.... why doesnt your source say to himself.. **** it, have it all Bill, photos, scanned documents, audio tapes, transcripts, video tapes whatever... take it all Bill, KNOCK YOURSELF OUT.....I'm outta here! Whats your source got to lose?
Originally posted by Crakeur
still feel the same way about the chapman who's grampy says it's a hoax and a who knows about the real aliens?
Bill, you said he was authentic earlier. In what manner did you think he was authentic? that he was posting from the UK? That it was two different people? (not sure how you'd know that though) That it was Pincher and his grandson? (guess that can't be the case now can it?)
Originally posted by ScaRZ
What did the Ebens have to gain from the exchange program?
They were so far above us in knowledge, what was it they needed from us?
There had to be something or they would never have made an exchange if the story is true.
Originally posted by gingerlad
Taking cheap shots at people who are trying to get info to you is un-productive and just irks; you'll just drive ATS members off this subject and onto matters where their efforts are appreciated.
Originally posted by Damocles
eyah, but, in a desert where is the coolest place to live?
adn as to them being able to travel space yet dont have air conditioner. all indication is that this is not a materialistic race, wouldnt AC be a luxery to some?
maybe they long ago took the old addage "do not simply live, rather live simply" and are happier for it?
Originally posted by rdube02
Originally posted by ScaRZ
What did the Ebens have to gain from the exchange program?
They were so far above us in knowledge, what was it they needed from us?
There had to be something or they would never have made an exchange if the story is true.
Supposedly - according the the folklore - it was an exchange program, so they were able to leave some of their people here. Some stories read that the treaty with our government also allowed them to abduct a certain number of people to study, and other stories say in addition that they were allowed to have a certain number of underground bases to work from. Those are just a few of the many theories/stories/folklore out there....
-rdube02
Originally posted by panther_512
Hello to everyone.
I am a new member in this amazing forum and I am sorry to tell you that the specific thread was too large to follow from the beginning.
Also I would like to apologize for my poor English.
I have read all the postings from Anom and I find them to be a fascinating story.
But unfortunately the story so far is full of serious flaws that make me believe that the whole thing is just a fiction story. Maybe the core of it is based in true facts, but the story is mostly fictional.
The story has a lot of inconsistencies and above all, I am very dissapointed from the last posts that they supposedly have unaltered entries that the commander made to his diary.
I had been in the army for 2 years (tank driver) and I cannot accept that the commander of this crew, one of the best of the best of US, skilled in many many things, with very high intelligence, trained to face every possible obstacle, one of the first ambasadours of earth wrote such awful entries.
It doesn't matter if it was the stress, the pressurized air, the hybernation, the alien food or anything else.
These entries are not the military way.
These entries seem to be writen by an amatuer writer, with a good story, weak plot and one central character.
They are not entries from the best of the best of US army.
Also, in these entries, there are quite a few annoying details that again point to the fact(?) that the person who wrote these entries doesn't know very well the military way of thinking and acting.
I don't know if someone else covered my opinion in previous posts, so I won't write more.
If you would like to read the flaws that I find in the commander's entries, please tell me so.
I would like to notice that I try to keep an open mind and the only thing I can tell for sure is that this story is fascinating.
Originally posted by Flyer
Originally posted by Celtic King
BILL: I posted earlier but my posts seem to drown in amongst all the chaos that is this forum... I have a question for you... Why dont you ask to get all the info from your source before you post anymore up on your web-site? I dont mind waiting if its worth the wait - the world will still be here by the time you have it all! I dont understand all this secrecy business.... why doesnt your source say to himself.. **** it, have it all Bill, photos, scanned documents, audio tapes, transcripts, video tapes whatever... take it all Bill, KNOCK YOURSELF OUT.....I'm outta here! Whats your source got to lose?
Because IMO its all a con and its designed to stir up interest and string people along. There is no proof and thats why theres been no pics posted. They will always be promised but never turn up. Id love to be wrong about this but it has all the classic signs of a con/hoax.
The classic signs of a con are promising something than can never be delivered, constantly dangling a carrot in front of people stringing them along.
Originally posted by Briggs
Ok , so it stirs up interest ? so what ?. atleast your reading skills improve . hehe . Classic sighns of a hoax/Con ??. care to explain.
If its a Hoax . to bad , atleast it was fun reading about it . If Someday it turns out to be real , then great ..But in the mean time, who cares .
Just go with it .
Originally posted by FlyerIf I had proof that we had contact with aliens, Id release everything ASAP. Why? Because thats how Id guarantee my own safety. You leave time for the authorities to make you have an accident if you release info bit by bit. If you release everything, the authorities have no reason to bump you off. In fact doing so can only help the case against them.
Originally posted by Flyer
The classic signs of a con are promising something than can never be delivered, constantly dangling a carrot in front of people stringing them along.
Originally posted by Briggs
Ok , so it stirs up interest ? so what ?. atleast your reading skills improve . hehe . Classic sighns of a hoax/Con ??. care to explain.
If its a Hoax . to bad , atleast it was fun reading about it . If Someday it turns out to be real , then great ..But in the mean time, who cares .
Just go with it .
If I had proof that we had contact with aliens, Id release everything ASAP. Why? Because thats how Id guarantee my own safety. You leave time for the authorities to make you have an accident if you release info bit by bit. If you release everything, the authorities have no reason to bump you off. In fact doing so can only help the case against them.
Originally posted by Briggs
if I had to do it , im not sure how i would go about it.
there may be info in the doc that may affect , family,friends, co workers ect.
even if i wer a retired old man/ retired service or not and the event happend 20 ,30 , 40 yrs ago and i had the docs to prove it.
i wouldnt want the families of the other people to be hurt in some way.