Originally posted by joey
I'm another geriatric aka another old hippie. I've had strange feelings (make that stranger than usual) feelings since the tsunami. That day, I felt like a crack had opened in time...a little slip into another dimension. The following months have been odd...at some times, life speeds by and peoples' emotions seem to be all on the surface...there is a nervous, edgy, freaky feeling. At other times, I feel at great peace and in touch with the universe.
I DO feel that we've entered into some kind of divide..the life we will live is not the life we lived before. Things that were unthinkable are thinkable. This isn't all doom and gloom. While I feel some terrible things will occur, I also feel some wonderful things will happen as well.
I don't know...I'm rambling...Ithe only way I can express it is by saying we have all stepped over the precipice and things will never be the same.
joey

How right you are..There was an opening in teh Sirius vortex arounf 1986 and to me, that is when the changes started..IOW we are in the midst of the veil separating this side from the other side and our vibrations are much higher, and speaking of the unthinkable, I am horrified at all the laxity in schools, courts,porn etc..It ain't the 70's anymore..Wish it was..LOL
I am an ole hippie too and still remember the manners we all used then, remember? Where are manners, respect?
I know how you feel, all we can do is to share with each other so that nobody 'feels alone' that is the only thing I know to do.You?

Yes there was a tighter cntrol of morals and manners 20 years ago as opposed to now.

Its sad in one way but it does show an expansion that has to happen in order for mankind to learn from his errors.

What causes this bad manners and relaxation of morals? Is it frustration with today's society and the future it has to offer? Is it a degradation in society taking us back to base instincts of fending for oneself? Is it the undercurrent that has always been there lying under the surface hidden but now bursting and outgrowing it's chains.

With the new found freedoms also come a loss of a freedom, freedom of speech moves aside and makes place for political correctness.

Originally posted by Mayet
Yes there was a tighter cntrol of morals and manners 20 years ago as opposed to now.

Its sad in one way but it does show an expansion that has to happen in order for mankind to learn from his errors.

What causes this bad manners and relaxation of morals? Is it frustration with today's society and the future it has to offer? Is it a degradation in society taking us back to base instincts of fending for oneself? Is it the undercurrent that has always been there lying under the surface hidden but now bursting and outgrowing it's chains.

With the new found freedoms also come a loss of a freedom, freedom of speech moves aside and makes place for political correctness.

Think if you can when the last time a child said yes ma'am and yes sir..
If I son did not respect his elders, he would know my ire.
May, I have tried to place it to a year that it started, and I would have to say between 1990-now..
I love watching news and always have, but the abhorrent spinning and name-calling by our leaders and each other tend to make me HATE the news.We hav 59 minutes of bad news and perhaps 1 minute of something good..
I have since a youngster thought I would be ready for any changes that took place on this planet, but it is so unprecedented, I cannot comprehend.
We have at least 5 people per day murdered here and my city is the number 1 in crime in America..
Everything is BACKWARDS!!!

Originally posted by Mayet
Yes there was a tighter cntrol of morals and manners 20 years ago as opposed to now.

Don't fall for this one. Twenty years ago was 1985, some twenty years after the advent of the sexual revolution, the closest thing to war most of my generation ever experienced. Very many were wounded. Ah, for the days when penicillin cured everything.

I was just wondering if anyone has figured out the meaning of the times that people keep running into such at 11:11, 2:53, 4:32 etc. Myself personally I have notice the 11:11 one very much as of late any ideas?

I have noticed these myslef 11:11, 1:11 expecially, also been feeling the flow of "energy" more, find myslef becomeing empathic as well as developing other psi abilities, I also feel that urgency but for me I feel something is comeing, something large and powerful that we do not fully understand, I do not know if it will be good or bad just that it is close.

I have heard the thory of "Lightbringers" as well as the more mstic and cosmical reasons behind all this and think it is total BS, but I know something is happening.

siriuslyone,
I'm probably about your age and yes, I have been feeling like that for about a month now.
I have this overwhelming feeling that I can't explain.
It's like I'm getting too much information and trying to sort it all out.
Sometimes I will just listened to my stereo and play music that goes back to the 60's and seventys and that seems to calm me for some reason.
It's like it takes me back in time.
A time that was calmer, peaceful and happier.
I have this feeling of dread , like something is about to happen, major, and I don't know what it is.

I like the lyrics to the song and it is a song that is riddled with the truth. I am feeling that something is around the corner. Despite being disabled, there is an atmosphere that I feel uneasy at times. It isn't anxiety, but more apprehension. An expectance, but not knowing where, or when.

I can't sit through television and some of the programmes feel like they are how do I put this-I was watching the film Supernova on tv. I don't know what happened, but I had to go on helio sites to find out what our sun was doing at present.

Helio sites deal with the sun and its physiology and how it reacts with earth.

The glaciers are melting faster than they should do and there is talk of the poles changing. And apparently the tsunami altered the speed of the planet's rotation. I can't remember the exact estimates, but I feel that we have to be vigilant and stop taking our precious planet for granted.

On astronomy websites, it is a beautiful thing to see from space. Like a jewel. Then when you study further the charts that show the toxicity in the atmosphere-it makes you sit down and really think.

love and light

I feel this change, this "urgency" started last year around this time and it hasn't stopped accelerating.

I'm about to be 31 and the way we live, the morals we keep, everything has progressed and changed significantly and not all for the better since I've been around. You can see the proof in our children, even in infanthood. Twenty- thirty years ago, children developed much more slowly than they now, not only in the physical, but in the emotional and pyschological. Twenty years ago, infants would barely open their eyes in their first month or two, as they developed, today babies are born with a strange and fascinating alertness and awareness that out rivals what we experienced in the past. Puberty seems to start alot sooner in this present time than it did about twenty years ago and the urge to start and live life as their own person is happening earlier too.

I know many here will not put much credence into the Vedic texts and Hindu's beliefs that we are in the age of Kali Yuga, but if you have ever read about it, you will agree it is uncanny how much on the ball they were thousands of years ago when writing about the social issues in society today.

I can say that I've felt this feeling, know how and why it's caused.

Are you concerned that you're not "ready" for the next moment?
Play the "what if" scenarios in your mind about disasters?
See yourself as more 'in-tuned' than the hum-drum people in your daily life?
Frustrated by not knowing if something exists beyond the human realm?
Feel the need to know what happens after this life?

If you've answered yes to one or more of these questions, I will help walk-through how I've come to the answers and how you may know also. Send U2U for details.

[edit on 8-12-2005 by saint4God]

Just don't become too attached to the physical world...when it's all gone, you will have nothing to depend on. Find truth within...don't accept anyone else's word as truth.

Right now is just the beginning, so most of the people feeling things and seeing signs don't understand what they mean or where they come from...they just know that "something" is different. But this cycle occurs for a reason, and there are things that will be taking place within the next few years, which will either lure you to one side or the other....just follow whatever is in your heart, and not what has been "taught" to you. There's no need to explain more right now, because it will all come to light in time.

Remember...the truth shall set you free...and truth is only found through direct experience. Don't allow yourself to be controlled in any way.

[edit on 8-12-2005 by Shoktek]

You sound as if you "know" something that the rest of us don't know.
Tell us more, Please?

Originally posted by Shoktek...there are things that will be taking place within the next few years, which will either lure you to one side or the other....just follow whatever is in your heart, and not what has been "taught" to you. There's no need to explain more right now, because it will all come to light in time.

[edit on 8-12-2005 by Shoktek]

Thanks, Shoktek...I couldn't have said it better myself after a dozen 'edits'.
The more time goes by, the more I'm convinced of the truth behind what you say.
It is time to begin reflecting on what is meaningful to us and what is just 'window dressing'. I know that to many people this message is incomprehensible and that the next most deadly supersonic stealthy fighter is as shiznit as a humungous Hummer on the paved driveway of our suburban homes. But there are a few of us that are starting to re-evaluate this mindset.

In my own way, I'm just beginning to change...but I am changing, that is for sure. The hard thing is, when I see what really doesn't matter, it turns out to be almost everything I've come to accept as necessary to my comfort zone. It is not going to be an easy transition. However, we soon may have no choice in the matter.

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My perception is that time seems to speed by the older we get. I think back to when I was in grade school and how school days just seemed to crawl by. Summer seemed like it lasted forever.

As we grow up, we begin to learn a sense of urgency, of the importance of tracking time. We get busier and are given more complex tasks. So all of a sudden, when we're 25, 35, 65 - we wonder, "Where the heck did all the time go?" Life does indeed get more complex with each year. Our priorities change and what we focus on changes, too.

The more news you read, the more bad news you become aware of. This contributes to us feeling anxious and "out of control" of our lives, of the planet as a whole, and everything in between.

As someone who a few years ago (I'm 31 now) overcame sudden panic attacks, may I recommend to you to take time each day, each week, each month to slow down and take time for yourself. Turn off and tune out and enjoy some "me time." Hopefully you can. Even if it's 5 minutes with your eyes closed, here and there. Believe in yourself that you can accept change and that you don't need to feel in control of everything. And pray every day that the world will get better.

Siriuslyone, in the spirit of posting song lyrics, here's one for you.
"Brothers On A Hotel Bed" by Death Cab for Cutie (check it out at iTunes)

You may tire of me as our December sun is setting
'Cause I'm not who I used to be
No longer easy on the eyes
These wrinkles masterfully disguise
The youthful boy below who turned your way and saw
Something he was not looking for, both a beginning and an end
But now he lives inside someone he does not recognize
When he catches his reflection on accident

On the back of a motor bike
With your arms outstretched trying to take flight
Leaving everything behind
But even at our swiftest speed we couldn't break from the concrete
In the city where we still reside
And I have learned that even landlocked lovers yearn
For the sea like navy men
'Cause now we say goodnight from our own separate sides
Like brothers on a hotel bed [x4]

You may tire of me as our december sun is setting
'Cause I'm not who I used to be



[edit on 8-12-2005 by enhancedesign]

I think some of this is related to the 'news immersion' we find ourselves in. For all of us 'mature' ATS'ers just think about how much communication has changed in our lifetimes. Weekly newspapers? Now we are bombarded with news, images and information at an unprecidented rate. 9/11, wars, tsumnami, earthquakes, hurricanes... we've become conditioned to anticipate the next catastrophe. If you were to be blindfolded and sat in a chair and then a person hit you with a baton at irregular intervals your anxiety would begin to rise anticipating the next 'hit'.

That said... I have posted on ATS before regarding this 'feeling' I have had throughout my entire life. I can remember it even as a young child. Although I was raised in a stable, middle-class family I have always had this feeling that something enormous was going to happen in my lifetime. It wasn't related to me in any direct way. The sense I have always had is that it is inescapable, global in nature, decidedly unpleasant but somehow necessary and things would improve afterwards. I have no idea what 'it' is or when 'it' will occur. Only that I have anticipated it my entire life. I'm 52.


[edit on 8-12-2005 by jtma508]

The majority of all of this new technology we use today has only really come about in the last 10 years. Just think about how quickly it has been developing since then, and think about the pace for the next 7 years...

You will be physically feeling changes as well, during different times of the months and year...but overall, everything is accelerating more and more from here on out. If you find yourself sick or feeling stressed out or just bad, I would advise you to just stop doing things that you "need" to do, and just relax, get some rest, do things you want to do...

The first major "signs" will be coming soon, although we have had plenty of things taking place until now...hurricanes, earthquakes, wars, attacks, etc. which are all symbolic of a deeper meaning and a deeper message. Those people who easily recognize these things have already noticed them...but soon there will be certain changes that will cause everyone to wake up and see what's going on.

This month of december is really when this final "cycle" will start to pick up, and it will continue to accelerate until it stops. Definitely be looking for the "signs" in world news and in your personal life within even the next month, and becoming more and more frequent/severe from that point on.

[edit on 8-12-2005 by Shoktek]

Great Thread, I have noticed a change in time, well at least my perception of time as its all subjective anyhow, since about 2000.... but recently very much so.

IMHO Byrd was right on the head with an earlier post, mentioning information and data overload:

The human brain is aware of 3 million external phenomina per second. That is consciousness 'percieves' through any of our senses 3 million seperate bits of information per second....

Now it certainly doesnt take a brain surgeon (excuse the pun) to realise we would all go insane very quickly indeed, and not survive to middle age, like some of the posters here myself included lol..... never mind as a species, if we had to process and be consciously aware of all this information.

So the brain filters out, the neccessary and imporant, then desregards the rest.... leaving only 2-3000 bits of information about the world outside of our body at any one given second. We then quickly assign labels internally on to this consciously aware data, of that phenomina based on current and previous observation though mainly by ascribing expected behaviour, characteristics and actual percieved form (which remember is only an internal view of an outside world with most of the data and facts missing!)and shape from previous experiences of that phenomina.

Now this all obviously happens very very quickly then non automated, less subconscious ... a good term maybe is, Awareness then itself, observes in real time the phenomina and changes the internally created ("what I saw" is really more like "what my mind projected") representation already generated ("what you saw" especially if out of the corner of your eye!) to fit with the new data from observation and consciousness.

Now this is how human beings are wired, and it may be fine for the Savannas, or living a more simple life. But now as well as this automatic and unaware filtering happening, with todays information and data accessibility and abundance we have to now refilter consciously the information that most of the time most people (except really paranoid people lol) automaticaly assume is correct and important and needs to be assimilated. So Problems now therefore occur as to put it in a simple way our Brains have to work harder nearly all the time to adapt to this new reality. Now I firmly believe that concentration is closely linked to changes in perception of time. Anyone who has swotted for exams nows that when engrossed maybe just reading a book the minutes quickly become hours...

Well as our brains have to work harder or concentrate more with this more dicerning approach to our environment taking place in modern society, we are effectively loosing track of time as we are less aware of our environment and intune with it.

Rather we are endlessly rechecking new data and inormation,and trying to make scense of our rapidly changing world. I really think this could be having an effect... but im probably just an Old Hippy! The above is an effect IMHO as said.

However I also believe there are other reasons too, as well as the above mechanics of it....the pyschology of part of it.....is that in society has been for a while and ever increasing, that everythings aimed at fast cars, young people, now now now now now culture, quick fix... so in a cultural scense the collective perception or 'Meme' of what time means and how its worth is measured, is changing to adapt to this new environment and reality.

On a subjective pyschological note modern consumer society is making people need to make more choices again, acquentuating my first premise, but these choices and desires are all linked to the second point I made. Namely that the things everyone wants to buy own have achieve is all soo short lived, as the trend dies more and more quickly with each new consumer/lifestyle purchase, there is then logically a new choice to make about a new thing even before the last shoe, clothing, gadjet, Karmic Rebirthing Ceromany, whatever your fix for hapiness is...its effect and perception of pleasure gained is reducing as the fads shorten.

some thoughts to ponder or berate as you see fit.

However as well as the above whilst studying in Uni years ago I became aware of something in nature that at first fascinated me but upon some research (1/2 day in the library and at PC not much! IM NO EXPERT on this however...) worried me then and I think maybe explains this change in perception of time. Ive seen a few things on the net about it but not much but im sure that many here will know of it.

The Earth has a 'Heartbeat'. This is known as the Schumann Resonance. It is created by the cavity caused by ionosphere and the earth crust... and without getting all technical and scientific (I never fully grasped much of it (the equation/schumann resonance) then never mind now...) Basically its a very low frequency pulse that has been constant since records began. It apparently is changing now speeding up! From what I remember it has had a constant of around 8 Hz and in 1980 ish started rising to around 11 Hz...now I cant remember where I got that from will have to check into this again and post some sourceable data soon..... now if the heartbeat of the earth is increasing and our environment is changing it makes sence that that would affect us and change our experiences. If that pulse has been as far back as cave man pretty static... I feel it is safe to assume that humans would be aware of any changes even if this is only affecting us pyschologically... ie we know something is differant is speeding up in our environment.... without the possibilty that the changing pattern could have a pyshiolgical effect too. Certainly explains many sleepless nights... the body is tuned to time by rythyms and cycles and this is believed to be one of them.

MischeviouslyDrummingSlower

Regards
Elf

Ps I took a watch off when i was 20 and smashed it up havent worn one since...strongly advise anyone who feels hassled by time to do the same. that way you have to look for the time when important (my first point here!) for you...and not unconsciously assimilate the time as you type or right, making you more stressed!


[edit on 8-12-2005 by MischeviousElf]