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posted on Sep, 1 2005 @ 09:44 AM
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The most keeped secret...
HMS Invincible (R05) was sunk by attack combined of AMM-39 Exocet lauched for Naval Aviation and 3 25 lbs. bombs lauched for A-4 Skyhawk.
Was reemplaced by HMS-Illustrious (R06).
You like proof?
have a lot photos to sustent my afirmation.

You can see it in ar.groups.yahoo.com...
or send mail to boletin23@yahoo.com.ar to receive it in your mail.




posted on Sep, 1 2005 @ 09:49 AM
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Would that not have been part of the Falklands war?



posted on Sep, 1 2005 @ 09:57 AM
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Uhh no, the ships been afloat for about 30 years and hasnt sunk..
That sights BS...



posted on Sep, 1 2005 @ 10:06 AM
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was impacted by 1 AMM-39 Exocet and 3 bombs of 250 lbs.

Some theories indicate that the hit ship was the HMS Atlantic Conveyor but this was sunk 5 days before.

theorie disqualified!!!



posted on Sep, 1 2005 @ 10:15 AM
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On 30 May 1982, the 2d Escuadrilla made its last Exocet attack on the carrier HMS Invincible, following up with an attack by a flight of Skyhawks. Argentine forces, to this day, claim that they hit and crippled the Invincible with both the Exocet and the Skyhawks’ bombs. Apparently, the Exocet was shot down by Royal Navy antiaircraft fire and the hulk of the Atlantic Conveyor was mistaken for the HMS Invincible and attacked by the Skyhawks. Despite Argentinian claims, no British damage resulted from their last Exocet attack.25

www.airpower.maxwell.af.mil...
Nice, merchant navy kiling....not bad guys..


[edit on 26/02/2005 by devilwasp]



posted on Sep, 1 2005 @ 10:26 AM
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Dont be silly!!! There is NO PHYSICAL way they sank invincible (as you state in your original post, Devil)

If they had sunk Invincible where did the new 'replacement' carrier appear from. Directly after the war they had 2 invincible class carriers sailing and one half built on the slips at wallsend. If invincible had sunk they would have had a month to either finish off Ark Royal and quietly replace her on the slips with another half finished hull (now where did that one come from?????). Or they had a spare one ready that they had built in secret to be sailing a month after the end of the war (if so why did they not send that down too, a third carrier would have been useful).

The debate about if she was hit or not has raged for years but while both sides did not always tell the whole truth, usually for operational reasons. The UK information generally turned out to be correct, while the argentinian information was much less so. Last time i counted they claimed to have sunk one of our carriers no less than 6 times during the conflict!!!



posted on Sep, 1 2005 @ 10:44 AM
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Atlantic conveyor was attacked 25th of May.(Holliday in Argentina - Day of 1810 Independence Revolution)
As it indicates in the text that references
"25th of May had been the worst day for the British in the campaign"...
they say thus because never they will recognize that he was the 30 of May.
HMS Invincible at 30 of May.
Was two diferents attacks.
to the 30 of May of 1982, to Argentinean it had left a Amm-39 of the 5 single that it had bought. The information is erroneous



posted on Sep, 1 2005 @ 10:59 AM
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I *think* that if the Invincible had been sunk, there would have been several hundred grieving families who may have noticed something.

What is a matter of record is that the Argentinians got their arse kicked and another second world tin pot dictatorship learned the hard way that they had a second rate military.

Air kills 24 (UK) to zero (Argies).
Argie Navy left port once and lost their flagship, adios Generalissimo Belgrano.
Argie Army was overrun with forces a fraction the size of their own.
Argentinian troops looted Port Stanley and defecated in houses.
Artillery units were deliberately stationed between civilian housing.
A rocket launcher was attached to a childs slide in Stanley.

The Argentinians are second world animals and they were dealt with accordingly. They have behaved themselves since.

[edit on 1-9-2005 by Winchester Ranger T]



posted on Sep, 1 2005 @ 11:15 AM
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if it were not really attacked, as it says the MOD of UK, why would have to change for 4 times the version respect to the attack to the HMS Invincible?


the 4 versions are:
MOD 1 of June of 1982:The AMM-39 Sunk the Atlantic Conveyor.
MOD 3 of June of 1982: it changes attacked ship AtLantic Conveyor by HMS Avenger.
Hastings and Jenkins 1983: HMS Avenger hit single the missile.
Present version of the MOD: HMS Avenger and HMS Exeter hit the airplanes A4 Skyhawk and the missile strikes the Atlantic Conveyor.



posted on Sep, 1 2005 @ 11:19 AM
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It's possible she was hit, and they managed to cover it up.
But how the hell do you hide a missing aircraft carrier?

It's not like you can build a replacement without anyone noticing.
And if she was replaced by Illustrious, what replaced Illustrious?



posted on Sep, 1 2005 @ 11:22 AM
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Originally posted by xmotex
It's possible she was hit, and they managed to cover it up.
But how the hell do you hide a missing aircraft carrier?


not to mention how do you hide the deaths of 5-6 thousand sailors? Or if they didnt die how do you keep them from talking?



posted on Sep, 1 2005 @ 11:36 AM
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Originally posted by xmotex
It's possible she was hit, and they managed to cover it up.
But how the hell do you hide a missing aircraft carrier?

It's not like you can build a replacement without anyone noticing.
And if she was replaced by Illustrious, what replaced Illustrious?



Illustrious replace Invincible and she was like a "joker" being Invincible and Illustrious. In 1983 Invincible was sent one year to be repaired so they could covered it perfectly.
Then in 1985 Ark Royal was built and another one in secret, which you know today as Invincible.

Here i explain better:

Everybody think that HMS Invincible is "R05", but no. The R05 was sunk...

HMS Invincible (R 07)
1999: Refit Portsmouth October


HMS Illustrious (R 06)
2000: Deployed to Gulf January 17, Atlantic January 19


HMS Ark Royal (R08)
1999: Rosyth naval base major Refit October


www.geocities.com...



Where is R05???



posted on Sep, 1 2005 @ 11:50 AM
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This is just a load of
rubbish.

For the Argentinian Air Force - brave tho they were, to claim to have crippled and sunk the Invincible is sheer fantasy.

Not for nothing was her nickname the Invisible, because the Argy pilots, though Invincible was in plain view, could not see her, let alone hit her!



posted on Sep, 1 2005 @ 11:53 AM
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Having just visted the Naval dockyards at Portsmoth, Invincible is tied up next to illustrius, ark royal being up in Scotland, Englands too small to have built another carrier without any one in the navy or public noticing



posted on Sep, 1 2005 @ 12:14 PM
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Dam i just left my Dad a voice mail too that he sank and drowned in 1982

may he rest in peace.



posted on Sep, 1 2005 @ 12:22 PM
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What utter rubbish !!!

This is a picture taken in October of 2002 ( quite a few days after the Falklands War ) of Illustrious entering Rosyth Dockyard for a refit, Invincible is in the background.







posted on Sep, 1 2005 @ 12:28 PM
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Then in 1985 Ark Royal was built and another one in secret, which you know today as Invincible.


How does one build a 20,000 ton aircraft carrier "in secret?"
Cover it up with an 800 foot tarp and hope nobody notices?

It takes thousands of people to build a major warship, how does one keep them all silent?



posted on Sep, 1 2005 @ 12:58 PM
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Originally posted by Mindwalker
What utter rubbish !!!

This is a picture taken in October of 2002 ( quite a few days after the Falklands War ) of Illustrious entering Rosyth Dockyard for a refit, Invincible is in the background.






The war was on 1982, not in 2002.
You are wrong.



posted on Sep, 1 2005 @ 01:04 PM
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Originally posted by xmotex



Then in 1985 Ark Royal was built and another one in secret, which you know today as Invincible.


How does one build a 20,000 ton aircraft carrier "in secret?"
Cover it up with an 800 foot tarp and hope nobody notices?

It takes thousands of people to build a major warship, how does one keep them all silent?




Nothing is impossible.

In WW2 the HMS Dasher was sunk and nobody knew that after 30 years.

The official cause of her sinking is still doubtful. The findings of the Board of Enquiry were never released until 1972 and even now information is being witheld. This is just part of a veil of secrecy which has surrounded HMS Dasher ever since. Rescuers, survivors and witnesses - everyone with any knowledge of what befell the Dasher in these waters - all were sworn to secrecy.

An important new piece of information may explain the Governments reticence to release all of their records. There is a strong possibility that one of the bodies from the Dasher was used in Operation Mincemeat to dupe the Germans about a possible invasion of Greece at a crucial time of the war in 1943. The loss of HMS Dasher and 379 young lives is still not fully understood by those affected. Mystery still surrounds the sinking, the burial graves and the true identity of the Operation Mincemeat body. Perhaps when all the facts have been revealed, they can be finally laid to rest.

here the link:
www.submerged.co.uk...



So it´s possible that Invincible had been sunk and UK doesnt accept it.

Remember there is a secret of 90 years about Falkands War when the secret of the WW2 was only of 30 years.



posted on Sep, 1 2005 @ 01:13 PM
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Originally posted by 55heroes

Originally posted by Mindwalker
What utter rubbish !!!

This is a picture taken in October of 2002 ( quite a few days after the Falklands War ) of Illustrious entering Rosyth Dockyard for a refit, Invincible is in the background.





The war was on 1982, not in 2002.
You are wrong.


My father was serving on board a Royal Navy frigate during the Falklands war, its role was a picket ship, part of the battle group which included HMS Invincible...................................................as for the dates, well obviously my sarcasm went over your head !






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