Originally posted by WissNX01
But they would let the schiztophrenics run around, huh?!?!?!?!
The Church of Scientology does not have the facilities to deal with this kind of mental problem, from my understanding. It is a point that I disagree
with them on. My opinion is if you can offer a viable alternative, great, until then please stop attacking the only profession that is trying to help
The e-meter is only one of dozens of crack-pot things they sell. How bout all the levels that you practically have to sell your first born to
It's true, it can get very expensive. However, that is only true of the Church of Scientology, not the Freezone.
Or how bout thier psudo-navy the Sea Org? No ones talking about that. No ones saying how completely bizarre the Sea Org is. Scientology has
thier own navy, and the uniforms to match!!!
Actually, if you read the thread, you will see that we have/are talking about it. anxietydisorder
was a member and he is happy to answer
questions about the Org.
The Sea Org is just a way that Hubbard and his clan cruised about the seas to avoid real humanity.
No, Hubbard floated around on the sea for tax evasion purposes.
The Britsh, French, Spanish, Swedish, Italian, and Greek governments all banned him from thier harbors by 1975. Thier investigation
organizations clearly identifiedScientology as a cult and watched them closely.
And Scientology is a recognized religion in many other countries. Interestingly, Falun Gong has been labeled an 'evil cult' by the government of
China. This does not make it true.
Finally, long after Hubbard blew his brains out (by the way, the thought the CIA and the US Navy were constantly spying on him) Scientology was
finally able to gain tax exempt status they lost in the 60s.
Once again, Hubbard did not die of a self-inflicted gunshot wound. Again, if you would just read the thread you are posting in, you will find links
to the coroners reports.
Speaking of Scientology being against drugs, lets remember that Hubbard himself was on all kinds of stuff. He was taking 'poppers' like candy.
Unlike alot of celebrety Scientologists, at least he had the decency to self medicate.
When Hubbard died, there were traces of an anti-psychotic, Vistaril, in his blood. Most people familiar with the history of the Church think that he
was being manipulated by the people surrounding him, to change his will and give them control of the Church.
Lets not ignore the fact that you have to pay to get to the highest levels of Scientology. I have seen figures of upwards of 1 Million dollars
for an average person.
See above. True in the Church, not true in the Freezone.
Yes we have all seen Clambake.org. Previously, the author of this thread thanked everyone for providing the link repeatedly, but wanted to hear a
less biased version of the truth.
On the 'Xenu' site, the Freezone is listed in the 'Where to go from here' section. This is because Andreas Heldal-Lund, the site owner,
acknowledges that the practice of Scientology is different from the Church of Scientology.
So in thier wisdom, Scientology BUYS this group. Now its another recruitment arm for Scientology. They created drug and alcohol groups
specifically to squeeze cash from people that dont really have it to begin with.
Yes the Church bought Narconon, if that is what you are referring to. Scientologists are very anti-drug and feel that they have the 'tech' to help
people. The Church most likely views this as a cash cow and recruitment method, but that does not mean that Scientologists are not honest in their
efforts to help people.
You Scientologist apologists can defend them all you want, but Scientology is wrong and a destructive force.
It's funny, I never thought of myself as a Scientologist apologist. In fact, I think that the Church of Scientology is a destructive force and a
greedy, vindictive organization. I will never argue on the side of the Church.
But as previously posted, in this thread
, the Church of Scientology and the practice of Scientology are two entirely different things. They do
not have to go together.
[edit on 2-7-2005 by Duzey]