"Wait a minute, you can't have a Jewish Christian because Jewish religion does not accept Jesus Christ as their Savior," and you can't have a
"Christian Muslim because, well, which is it, Jesus or Mohammed?"
The difference with Scientology is that there's isn't any "savior". There is no requirement to believe in anything in particular (although of
course there ends up being general agreement on certain principles, because people find them to be workable and therefore "true" for them). Some
might argue that this proves that Scn isn't
a religion, however there are other, ancient religions (Buddhism, for example) that have no
specific "savior". Scn is a religion in that it addresses spiritual matters.
I have always heard that when a giving member wants to leave the church they will do what they can to destroy you personally.
This is untrue, or at the very least not true across the board. I left in 1980 and have never been bothered in any way. I have heard stories of such
pesecution, but have no way to judge their truth.
You cannot be a Christian Scientologist just like you cannot be a Christian Mason.
Do what?? I have known many Chrisitian masons. My late father for one. In fact, as I understand it, being a Christian is a prerequisite for
They attempt to disconnect you from your family and all people who are against the church, they are completely against psychology and structured
medical care, and when member cannot pay for his lessons, they ask the member to sign a contract volunteering to work for one billion years!
In fact, it's more normal for the Church to encourage REconnection with family members. On occasion, when family members become SEVERELY anti-Scn, a
temporary "disconnection" can be the only way forward.
The psychology part is pretty much true, although you could argue that for Scientologists, Scn technology replaces
psychology in that, unlike
psychology, it actually provides tools that work
. Not endless psychobabble, dangerous drugs, or ice picks in the brain. A simple concept,
really: instead of treating symptoms, it gets to the bottom of what ails ya.
We have no issue with medical doctors. A broken arm needs a cast, an infection needs antibiotics, etc...
You've have hit on something regarding money. This is to do with the Church today
; it wasn't always so and isn't so now in the Freezone.
Both of them were seperated and talked to two seperate people who apperently did some weird hypno therapy as they were calling it.
Such a thing would NEVER happen in a Scn place. Hypnosis or anything remotely like it is completely verboten. In fact, Scn is the polar opposite, all
Dianetics, as far as I gather in my limited understanding, is not, strictly, scientology. Dianetics was prior to scientology, but I also suspect that
the two things are very similar.
Dianetics was first. It addresses the mind. Scn came later and addresses the spirit. The two are pretty much fused togeter now, although it is
possible to gain benefit from Dianetics only. Less so Scn, as Dianetics is still the underlying theory.
His basic theory, about engrams, is incorrect, and the auditing process doesn't get ride of instinctual and programmed behaviour either.
How do you know
the theory is incorrect? I have found it to be true; true in the sense that it's workable
, which imho is the only
useful kind of truth.
LRH even told his OWN WIFE that she should commit suicide.
Got a source for that statement? Seems your posts are riddled with rumor and innuendo...
Do you have any more information about the 'techs' or any good links to more information on them?
U2U me or see my website...
i would hate to see some of these folks have a family member diagnosed with SCHIZOPHRENIA, PANIC DISORDER, BI-POLAR, DEPRESSION or anything else that
requires TRUE MEDICATION to treat and live a productive life. there's no amt of auditing or cleansing, meditating or whatEVER in the world that can
CURE these things without medical intervention.
Says who? The people who prescibe and the companies that make huge profits, that's who. I don't have time right now to go into detail, but my
personal experience tells me that these drugs don't work
. At best they zombifiy people to the point where maybe they act a little more
"normal". But they only (attempt to) treat symptoms
, they cannot and do not get to the bottom of what's actually wrong with a person.
Perhaps if anyone really
what these drugs were doing, or - better yet - if anyone really
how the brain works, well then maybe an effective drug-based treatment could be developed. But I don't really believe that; I don't believe mental
illness is caused by a sick brain, it's the person
controlling that brain who needs help.
The above, of course, is a personal opinon (based on experience, both of being treated with drugs and watching others being treated). Don't stop
taking your meds without careful consideration and consultation with a doctor
Anyway, time for sleep. Goodnight all!