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posted on May, 16 2005 @ 11:22 PM
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Originally posted by Hunting Veritas

2) ...... Depression......... wounds etc. etc. would all be cured in a matter of years. Therefore no need for ph/farm companies. ECONOMY DROPS by billions

I didnt know that depression could be cured by some kind of ray gun. WOunds? A use of frequency to treat wounds wouldnt prevent people from getting stabbed, hurting themselves and things like that. People will still need doctors and nurses.

Where exactly are you from? Cause I dont want to drink anything from that area.




posted on May, 17 2005 @ 03:20 AM
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Originally posted by WissNX01
Where exactly are you from? Cause I dont want to drink anything from that area.


I live EXACTLY in Oxford right bang in the centre of it. You should know where it is as it is probly the most educated part of the world along with cambridge and london. Do not insult my intelligence.


I didnt know that depression could be cured by some kind of ray gun. WOunds? A use of frequency to treat wounds wouldnt prevent people from getting stabbed, hurting themselves and things like that. People will still need doctors and nurses.


Its not a ray gun! (this ain't star trek) Its a plasma connection that releases different frequencies, therefore if you find the oscillation of the human body you could in theory make the human body stronger and able to fight pathogens and heal wounds with ease (I know it sounds futiristic but it is still theorhetical along the lines of quantum physics). So also in theory this technology would help in the cure of depression geee imagine all those pharm companies loosing BILLIONs within weeks of it being introduced there would be no competition as the parts/invention would become patented and other competitors would loose out hence why no rife machine was aloud to go into public discussion. The FDA shut him down and destroyed his research if it wasn't them who was it as they sure didn't like Royal rife and his wonderful genius.

Within 10 years someone/something WILL own the genetic blueprint of human DNA

I am not trying to say this is a definate cure but the EVIDENCE points in that direction the guy even got a Nobel prize yet all his documentation and labs were sabotaged, destroyed and his theory ridiclued he (Rife) died from a lethal overdoes of vallium IN HOSPITAL??? Doctors and scientists who ARE in pictures with Dr Rife denied claims they even met the guy. hmmmmm?????

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posted on May, 17 2005 @ 04:10 AM
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Originally posted by FatherLukeDuke
This is just silly. Just about every Western country is facing a massive shortage of staff and a desperately recruiting. Anything that would reduce this burden would be welcomed with open arms by governments. A 6th of the worlds population will lose their jobs????? What do you base this on?


Yep the government sure would accept a cure for everything but the "corporations" would NOT. I will guarantee you that these companies would become bankrupt within days if the technology was un-supressed!!! I supose you believe the theory that arabs attacked america on the morning of 911 (not forgetting the stock traders that loved it because gold sky-rockted) and that the OCK bombing (There was 3 bombs) was done by Tim Mcveigh. Yeah riiiiiiight?


Who mentioned AIDS and depression anyway? You really think these can also be cured by this device? Big pharm make all their cash from stuff like Viagra and anti-obessity drugs. They aren't as interested in cancer as developing drugs for it is risky and is generally small niches. That's why charities and government funded bodies do so much of the work.


Ok so who makes the MRI scanning units???? Who makes the Chemotherapy machines???? X-ray machines, hospital beds etc.

Yes I do believe that Rife's work if left untainted could have been the cure EVERYONE was waiting for and it was destroyed for matters of profit and stocks.



Right, so all the people who work for these charities want to keep people dieing so they still have jobs?!? Think about what you are saying...there are dedicated people working for these organisations who would find that very insulting, not to say stupid.


They don't know it exists due to proaganda and lies which you are told your entire life. I am not trying to insult anyone but I am saying not enough people are open minded and ignorance beholds them just like the
the companies that make the chemicals to make cows produce more milk but invelitably cause CANCER!!!!! Fox news told them to shut up or they would have dire consiqunces. No one says a damn thing inc. Doctors when they find their jobs are in the $hit.



Not sure what you mean there


Hmmmm, NO ONE would ever trust a Doctor or GP again if this information came to light especially ME!



So why dont these greedy companies want to develop the technology and make loads of money from it? If they developed and patented a device that cured everthing from depression to HIV they would make 10 times more money in a week than microsoft make in a year. Why suppress it?


As soon as the companies start making money from a cure that is made of electronic components whats to stop people back engineering this patented technology and start curing everyone for FREE!!! They would make no money whatsoever so please what a stupid argument, just think if you had cancer and couldn't afford to pay for one of these machines or treatment wouldn't you be glad that someone has copied the idea and helped people for free.



I'm afraid that is impossible. Someone needs to show that it does work


No I don't think so, What I believe we should do is as a people construct a machine that is capable of the functions Rife describes and use HIS microscope which can look at virus and pathogens LIVE at 31,000x magnification then prove it right or wrong as a people not some privatized group or government but a people of world renound scientists, GPs and doctors with I dunno 30000 people to watch over the experiment so it cannot be cheated or faked.

As far as I am concerned I don't know wether this stuff works but what I wanted people to do was tear THE TECHNOLOGY apart, prove me wrong, tell me it doesn't work with documetable proof this technology cannot cure cancer or any other illnesses for that matter. All I have if proof this guy existed and got a nobel prize for some reason, then poof he disappears and all his technology gone!!!



posted on May, 17 2005 @ 04:46 AM
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I live EXACTLY in Oxford right bang in the centre of it. You should know where it is as it is probly the most educated part of the world along with cambridge and london. Do not insult my intelligence.

do they not have english lessons or a spell checker in EXACTLY the centre of oxford.



posted on May, 17 2005 @ 05:49 AM
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Originally posted by jack burton


I live EXACTLY in Oxford right bang in the centre of it. You should know where it is as it is probly the most educated part of the world along with cambridge and london. Do not insult my intelligence.

do they not have english lessons or a spell checker in EXACTLY the centre of oxford.



You sad, sad person. If you have nothing constructive to say then why say anything at all. So come on then I live in the place that virtually created the English language and your telling me how to spell it, ha!

Just 'coz I no how 2 spell dosn't meen I 'ave to.



posted on May, 17 2005 @ 05:55 AM
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Originally posted by Hunting Veritas
there would be no competition as the parts/invention would become patented and other competitors would loose out hence why no rife machine was aloud to go into public discussion.

That's exactly the nature of the free market. One company patents a technology and makes money from it, while it's competitors lose out. Why would the company who owned the technology worry about the other companies?



I am not trying to say this is a definate cure but the EVIDENCE points in that direction the guy even got a Nobel prize

He simply did not win a nobel prize, you made that up. If you are going to throw these sort of comments about then you need to back them up - when did he win it and what for?



posted on May, 17 2005 @ 06:11 AM
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Originally posted by Hunting Veritas
Yep the government sure would accept a cure for everything but the "corporations" would NOT. I will guarantee you that these companies would become bankrupt within days if the technology was un-supressed!!!

Well apart from the company that owned the technology - they would become very rich. What about all the non-profit organisations? Why don't they develop it?



I supose you believe the theory that arabs attacked america on the morning of 911 (not forgetting the stock traders that loved it because gold sky-rockted) and that the OCK bombing (There was 3 bombs) was done by Tim Mcveigh. Yeah riiiiiiight?

This is sooooo irrelevant.



Ok so who makes the MRI scanning units???? Who makes the Chemotherapy machines???? X-ray machines, hospital beds etc.

Thousands of different companies all competing with each other, so what?



They don't know it exists due to proaganda and lies which you are told your entire life. I am not trying to insult anyone but I am saying not enough people are open minded and ignorance beholds them just like the

So you are saying these very bright scientists who often devote the entire lives to finding a cure for cancer know less about it then you? Wow, arrogance and paranoia combined. As someone pointed out earlier research is being conducted in to using sound waves to attack pathogens, however it hasn't yet gone anywhere. Certainly none of the scientists working in this area would ever suggest it would be the ridiculous cure-all you suggest.



As soon as the companies start making money from a cure that is made of electronic components whats to stop people back engineering this patented technology and start curing everyone for FREE!!!

So why doesn't this happen with all the other technology that firms have patented now?



No I don't think so, What I believe we should do is as a people construct a machine that is capable of the functions Rife describes and use HIS microscope which can look at virus and pathogens LIVE at 31,000x magnification

And as he never left any blueprints for building this wonderful machine, how do you suggest we go about this?



then prove it right or wrong as a people not some privatized group or government but a people of world renound scientists, GPs and doctors with I dunno 30000 people to watch over the experiment so it cannot be cheated or faked.

Right, OK then. Who is going to organise this exactly?



As far as I am concerned I don't know wether this stuff works but what I wanted people to do was tear THE TECHNOLOGY apart, prove me wrong, tell me it doesn't work with documetable proof this technology cannot cure cancer or any other illnesses for that matter

I haven't any "documetable proof " that riding a unicycle doesn't cure cancer - that doesn't mean I want to research it to check that it doesn't.



posted on May, 17 2005 @ 06:25 AM
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Originally posted by FatherLukeDuke
That's exactly the nature of the free market. One company patents a technology and makes money from it, while it's competitors lose out. Why would the company who owned the technology worry about the other companies?


They don't worry about other companies they worry about the people who will back engineer the technology to make it "free" for public use!!! Notice the word "People" not companies but people. Do you really think normal everyday people are worried about wether or not its patented if they are in suffering from cancer hmmmmmm????? Remember People not companies this is what the pharm companies are worried about.



I am not trying to say this is a definate cure but the EVIDENCE points in that direction the guy even got a Nobel prize

He simply did not win a nobel prize, you made that up. If you are going to throw these sort of comments about then you need to back them up - when did he win it and what for?


No you are right he didn't officially win a nobel prize but was extremly close to winning the the nobel prize in medicine for his discoveries of oscillating frquencies of cells and killing of them.

I sincerely apologize for making a false remark. I did find this though:

www.mnwelldir.org...

The head of the AMA hopped a train from Chicago to visit Rife in San Diego. Pictures were taken, the story ended up on the front page of the San Diego Evening Tribune: Rife was on his way to a Nobel Prize in Medicine.

The AMA wanted a cut. Drug companies pressed for more proof before allowing his instruments to be used. It seems that when a medical device wants FDA approval, each and every use must be evaluated (at a cost of hundreds of millions of dollars). Now, keep in mind that Rife had built his microscope and instruments and had worked for decades studying and destroying microbes all before 1930. From 1934 to 1939 doctors all over America used the Rife machines to cure disease, and all over America doctors were being pressured to stop this practice. Offices were broken into and their machines were confiscated. With the backing of the AMA an engineer working with Rife, filed suit against Rife, and this was the beginning of the end. The unending court battles wore Rife down, and the more depressed he got, the heavier he drank and then came the unexpected, the terrifying conclusion: his microscope was stolen and soon afterwards his laboratory went up in flames and his records and research burnt entirely. The Burnett Lab in New Jersey where Rife's work was being independently validated burned to the ground. Dr Milbank Johnson, a supporter of Rife's and one of the people who had worked to validate Rife's research was poisoned. Dr Nemes who was duplicating Rife's work just 40 miles from Rife's own lab was killed in a mysterious fire that consumed his lab and research papers. Rife's closest associate was given a grant for $200,000 and quickly vanished. People who had worked with Rife suddenly denied knowing him. Rife sunk further and further into depression and alcoholism. By 1940, Rife's work had been wiped out entirely. Every time he tried to pull himself back on track to reduplicate his research, he was hounded and harassed and finally his life ended in a hospital by an overdose that was not self-administered.


Do you know about the 40 microbiologists that have died suspiciously recenlty hmmmm????? Funny that

freepress2005.blogspot.com...


Author Steve Quayle alleges that 40 microbiologist have died under suspicious circumstances in the last four years -- most of them specializing in vaccines and bio-weapons research. The deaths include stabbings, drownings, plane crashes and hit-and-run crashes. Some were ruled suicides. There’s only been several who’ve died of ‘natural’ causes.


I know there might not be a link but then again you never know????



posted on May, 17 2005 @ 07:05 AM
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You sad, sad person. If you have nothing constructive to say then why say anything at all. So come on then I live in the place that virtually created the English language and your telling me how to spell it, ha!

so do i my friend,although i do not see the need to get on my high horse about where i come from when someone gives me some constructive criticism or their views dont agree with my own.Anyway most oxford students just bum around for a couple of years poncing of mummy and daddy when their student loan has been p****d up the wall.Very interesting link none the less.



posted on May, 17 2005 @ 07:05 AM
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Originally posted by FatherLukeDuke
Well apart from the company that owned the technology - they would become very rich. What about all the non-profit organisations? Why don't they develop it?


No that company would dissolve due to the people as I said before. Companies are not worried about other companies as they can legally stuff 'em but I don't think millions of people could be taken to court because that company is loosing money that is created out of thin air!


This is sooooo irrelevant.


No its not. If you believe that hijackers really attacked america and not its own government then that pretty much says to me that you really don't care what the governments do.



Thousands of different companies all competing with each other, so what?


There you go you just answered it, Companies competing with each other. Why don't they work together to find a cure I will almost guarantee you if they did it would be Rife's invention or close to it.


So you are saying these very bright scientists who often devote the entire lives to finding a cure for cancer know less about it then you? Wow, arrogance and paranoia combined. As someone pointed out earlier research is being conducted in to using sound waves to attack pathogens, however it hasn't yet gone anywhere. Certainly none of the scientists working in this area would ever suggest it would be the ridiculous cure-all you suggest.


I am not arrogant or paranoid about this stuff I just want what everyone wants, a happy life but when you come across information like this you cannot dismiss it and carry on. We are all made of vibrations like I said before IT HAS BEEN PROVEN so whats to stop making a machine that oscillates at the same freqeuncy to your body hence making the pathogen explode, die etc.


So why doesn't this happen with all the other technology that firms have patented now?


Good point that one. I ain't got a clue sorry. Mind you if something like AIDs and Cancer could be cured then I think people are going to be less worried about copying patents.



And as he never left any blueprints for building this wonderful machine, how do you suggest we go about this?


They got burnt but there is a REAL microscope that was stolen decades ago but since has been sicovered I shouldn't have to tell you this you should have seen the pictures of it.



Right, OK then. Who is going to organise this exactly?


You have no ambition do you. ANYONE could set this up but its getting the funding to re-create the Rife inventions and fully rebuild his machine(s) You can hardly go to a bank a say "I want to rebuild an invention that can cure cancer in 90 days and many, many other illnesses but one problem its going to put doctors, teachers, professors, scientists the list continues out of work I also want to show 30,000 people it actually works". Yeah
they'll give me a helping hand won't they imagine the money they make from those competitive companies always borrowing money to look for new cures.



I haven't any "documetable proof " that riding a unicycle doesn't cure cancer - that doesn't mean I want to research it to check that it doesn't.


Actually you do. It has been proven that if you exercise (ride a bike/unicycle) your heart pumps faster therefore more blood-flow better circulation and waalaa you immune system works better making it easier to kills bacterias, viruses and cancers so in theory riding a unicycle does help you kill cancer cells. There is proof of this everywhere from proper Dr's and physicians to quacks. So I guess your wrong on that one. Maybe you should have researched it. lol

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posted on May, 17 2005 @ 07:19 AM
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Originally posted by jack burton


You sad, sad person. If you have nothing constructive to say then why say anything at all. So come on then I live in the place that virtually created the English language and your telling me how to spell it, ha!

so do i my friend,although i do not see the need to get on my high horse about where i come from when someone gives me some constructive criticism or their views dont agree with my own.Anyway most oxford students just bum around for a couple of years poncing of mummy and daddy when their student loan has been p****d up the wall.Very interesting link none the less.


I would like to point out that I do not have an education like those stuck up posh brats with silver spoons in there mouth. My Dad died struggling to put clothes on my back and food in my mouth so I despise the Bums who think everything is fine and dandy just because they're mummy and daddy paid for them to go private school then they pi$$ away my tax money on drugs & alcohol.

I am not on a high horse preaching about where I come from but stating the obvious, I was asked EXACTLY where I live and I responded some what confidently.



posted on May, 17 2005 @ 02:03 PM
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Just because your in Oxford, doesnt make you on the same level as Edmund Halley and other great people. I live near Los Angeles, doesnt make me Brad Pitt.

Your pretty silly thinking you get your smarts by osmosis. Im going to stop reading and taking in information and just put my head next to my computers processor, maybe Ill get something that way.

Also, just because your little part of the world has all the really old universities, doesnt make that area any more educated than another. Honestly, get off that soap box.

[edit on 05/5/17 by WissNX01]



posted on May, 17 2005 @ 04:11 PM
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Originally posted by WissNX01
Just because your in Oxford, doesnt make you on the same level as Edmund Halley and other great people. I live near Los Angeles, doesnt make me Brad Pitt.

Your pretty silly thinking you get your smarts by osmosis. Im going to stop reading and taking in information and just put my head next to my computers processor, maybe Ill get something that way.

Also, just because your little part of the world has all the really old universities, doesnt make that area any more educated than another. Honestly, get off that soap box.

[edit on 05/5/17 by WissNX01]


I know, I know sorry. I didn't mean to be egotistic.



get off that soap box.


???? Do you mean TV, I don't really watch much its mostly ad's anyway.



posted on May, 17 2005 @ 04:33 PM
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Um forget the soap box remark, it wasnt about TV at all.



posted on May, 17 2005 @ 05:50 PM
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As a veteran of both medical school and several years in the Oncology field I feel I can shed some light upon this. There are several sources of RF treatment for ailments. The two major ones are Lithotripsy, where sound waves are used to destroy and reduce crystal structures (stones) within the kidneys, and Radiofrequency Ablation, where high energy waves are used to generate heat for cutting out and cauderizing neoplastic growths. This is essentially the same as a electric scapel, except the heat source is physically smaller, and is used for finer structure which are more vascular than skin or viscera.

There can be no single cure for cancer because there are literally hundreds of different types of cancer, each with seperate etiologies. There are several viruses that are linked with cancer, such as HPV. However, the secret to combating these viruses is to contain the resulting infection before it spreads to the point where enough cellular damage is caused to produce the resulting cancer. And at that, these viruses don't cause unique cancers; they are one of many carginogens that cause identical cancers.

This talk of harmonic resonance therapy is fairly pointless, as the very crux of it's supposed effectiveness is physically impossible: once a cell has become cancerous, it can not be treated. It has become genetically modified, and must be destroyed before it reproduces. This is because the chromosomes have become physically altered, and they may not be changed back under any circumstance. The secret and direction of future cancer treatment is with modification of the body's immune system (cancer often results from a lack of certain immune cells that are known to inhibit the reproduction of cancer cells through some as yet unknown process), and by the genetically modfied anti-gens that introduce substances within the body to combat cancer cells.

RF effects upon the body are of an unknown quantity. Altering the alpha and beta waves of the brain were once thought harmless, but now they are known to cause psychosis in certain people. Ultrasound, the use of RF waves for imaging, too were thought harmless. But now there is evidence that they can cause fetal damage if over-used or are of the wrong modulation. By the same token, there is cursory evidence that MRI scans can be a palliative treatment for specific kinds of depression.

With new technologies like this there are always fringe elements who promulgate them as the newest cure all, and cry conspiracy when they are not embraced by the medical community. Granted, the pharmaceutical industry is governed by greed, and many effective treatments are ignored because they are not profitable. This, however, is not one of them.

Examples of previous 'cure-alls': Cocaine, arsenic, mercury, lobotomies, tapeworms, bleeding, therapuetic pneumothoracies and pnuemoperitoneums, electro-shock, radium dosage, and X-rays. Now, RF treatment will probably never be shown to cause the extensive damages that these things can create. But at the same time, there is positively no indication that they serve any effective treatment, not even anecdotal.

And just one last thought on Chemo-therapy: yes, it is harmfull to the body. However, it is not meted out to every single person who has cancer. Chemo treatment is dosed according to risk vs. benefit. If someone is to receive chemo, it is because the cancer will either kill them out-right, or poses more of a risk to the person if left untreated than the negative effects of chemo. Detractors like to point to chemo as tantamount to torture, but the fact is that chemo is currently the most effective treatment for a lot of various cancers and metastasis. Of course, more effective treatments will be found in the future. However, radio harmonic stimulations will not be one of them, at least not to the extent of the technology posted.

Beware of false prophets bringing promises of immortality.



posted on May, 18 2005 @ 08:11 AM
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Originally posted by Templarum
This talk of harmonic resonance therapy is fairly pointless, as the very crux of it's supposed effectiveness is physically impossible: once a cell has become cancerous, it can not be treated.


It seems you sound some what confident in this however if you look at EVERY cell in the human body or ANYTHING it is all vibrating, EVERYTHING oscillates at a very low level or high level depending on what it is your looking at.



It has become genetically modified, and must be destroyed before it reproduces. This is because the chromosomes have become physically altered, and they may not be changed back under any circumstance. The secret and direction of future cancer treatment is with modification of the body's immune system (cancer often results from a lack of certain immune cells that are known to inhibit the reproduction of cancer cells through some as yet unknown process), and by the genetically modfied anti-gens that introduce substances within the body to combat cancer cells.


So what your trying to say is that in the god knows how many years we have been researching cancer we still have not found out in entirety what causes the reproduction of it. Rife never said it was possible to return cells back to normal he demonstrated that it was possible to "devitalise" the damaged cells and have the human immune system remove what was left.



RF effects upon the body are of an unknown quantity. Altering the alpha and beta waves of the brain were once thought harmless, but now they are known to cause psychosis in certain people. Ultrasound, the use of RF waves for imaging, too were thought harmless. But now there is evidence that they can cause fetal damage if over-used or are of the wrong modulation. By the same token, there is cursory evidence that MRI scans can be a palliative treatment for specific kinds of depression.


This is not I repeat NOT an electromagnetic machine. It is a oscillator that generates non-audible, no tissue damage and no sensation noticed frequency that simply destroys the cancerous/bacterium cells. I think its a tad more complicated than just resonating frquencies in a sound wave.



With new technologies like this there are always fringe elements who promulgate them as the newest cure all, and cry conspiracy when they are not embraced by the medical community. Granted, the pharmaceutical industry is governed by greed, and many effective treatments are ignored because they are not profitable. This, however, is not one of them.


This is not new it was first created by Dr Royal Raymond Rife S.D from as early as 1920 until his suspicous death in 1971 from a "accidental" dose of vallium. He died a pennyless man with no respect for what he had achieved and people like you ridicule him, his assocciates bailed out on him when they were "pressured" they even denied speaking to him but photographs prove a different story. The pharm. (You will notice I call them farm companies due to what they are currently doing to the human race) companies are not governed by greed they are greed in its most hostile form I spose you could call them the cancer on the hemeroid of america that is slowly but surely poisoning the population.


Examples of previous 'cure-alls': Cocaine, arsenic, mercury, lobotomies, tapeworms, bleeding, therapuetic pneumothoracies and pnuemoperitoneums, electro-shock, radium dosage, and X-rays. Now, RF treatment will probably never be shown to cause the extensive damages that these things can create. But at the same time, there is positively no indication that they serve any effective treatment, not even anecdotal.


Well how come we don't at least try these wonderful machines or at minimal get an original rife machine (one still exists to this day known to GPs that have used it called the TINs machine) and test it like they did back then, he found something its not a conspiracy theory if you can prove its true its just a conspirary just like 911 and I think there are many, many people worldwide both quacks and professional medics like yourself that if this is seen it would freak people out. Why do you think we don't have microscopes that can see as well as he has claimed to have made which also still exists????? I think its because everyone would find out he was right and the medical profession will be fround upon for many, many years. Just as he was for providing a way out.



And just one last thought on Chemo-therapy: yes, it is harmfull to the body. However, it is not meted out to every single person who has cancer. Chemo treatment is dosed according to risk vs. benefit. If someone is to receive chemo, it is because the cancer will either kill them out-right, or poses more of a risk to the person if left untreated than the negative effects of chemo. Detractors like to point to chemo as tantamount to torture, but the fact is that chemo is currently the most effective treatment for a lot of various cancers and metastasis. Of course, more effective treatments will be found in the future. However, radio harmonic stimulations will not be one of them, at least not to the extent of the technology posted.

Beware of false prophets bringing promises of immortality.


I am always aware of false prophets and fake molarky but there is simply too much information about this subject to dismiss it as down right stupid this guy was a scientist not a medical person who did not understand virology so some of his research was based on guess work but it still brings to the attention that persons affiliated with Rife either disappeared, ignored, murdered or bombed out due to pressure including Milbank who was suspiciously killed a day before the press release about this wonderful now "old" technology.

It is claimed that rife's machine was effective against human cancer through a clinical study done under the auspices of the University of Southern california. However USC disputes this, saying no records exist that any such study ever took place. Nevertheless, according to John Crane, a special Medical Research Committee had been committed to looking to the work of Rife in 1934. A Dr Milbank John (president of USC at the time) is said to have supervised the committee. They found 16 terminally ill people and brought them down to a ranch which had been owned by a member of the Scripps family, of the Scrips Oceanographic Institute frame. Rife descibed the treatment in 1934:



"With the frequncy intsrument treatment, no tissue is destroyed, no pain is felt, no noise is audible and no sensation is noticed. A tube lights up and 3 minuted later the tratment is completed. The virus or bacteria is destroyed and the body then recovers itself naturally from the toxic effect of the virus or bacteria. Several diseases may be treated simultaneously."

"The first clinical work on cancer was completed under the supervision of Milbank Johnson M.D which was set up under a special research committee of USC. 16 cases were treated at the clinic for many types of malignancy. After 3 months, 14 of these so-called helpless cases were signed off as clinically cured by the staff of five medical doctors inc. Dr Alvin G. Foord, treatments consisted of 3 minuted duration using the frequncy intrument which was set on the MOR for BX or cancer (at 3 day intervals). It was found that the elapsed time between treatments attains better results than the cases treated daily. This gives the lymphatic system an opportunity to absorb and cast off the toxic condiction which is produced by the devitaliszed dead particles of the Bacillus X virus. No rise in body temp. was perceptible in any of these cases above normal during or after the frequncy intrument treatment. No special diets were used in any of this clinical work, but we sincerely believe that a proper diet compiled for the individual would be of benefit."

In this putative 1934 clinic they claimed Rife's machine yielded a 100% cure rate,


NOTE: They said this about rifes machine Dr's and Physicians said it!! not rife himself although he did most of the researching and engineering of the machines along with a few other members.

In all honestly I do respect you as a medical figure and in no way am I trying to mock you or tell you how to do your job I am simply displaying information from many sources and am asking if anyone can PROVE it right or wrong. With rifes OWN instrument it cured people of disease that is proven by countless books and websites but Rife has been mocked, ridiculed and murdered ALL in the name of greed, stocks and profit margins. Say what you will about this guy but one thing stands out rather alot to me and that EVERYTHING in the ENTIRE universe oscillates we may not be able to see it but it is happening everywhere at an extremly small or large scale depending on what your looking at.

Thank you for your response.

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posted on May, 18 2005 @ 11:19 AM
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By the same token, I am not trying to mock you. With that in mind, I must ask you, exactly what are your qualifications/knowledge level concerning biomolecular sciences? Yes, of course every living cell oscillates. Actually, they do so because they are made up of molecules. Every single molecule within the universe that resides at a temperature above absolute zero oscillates, and we are well aware of these physical properties. However, you cannot stimulate living matter in an attempt to 'cleanse' the body of cancer cells.

And yes, a radiofrequency generater is EXACTLY what this RIFE device is, nothing more, nothing less. What do you think these oscillations are? They reside upon the electromagnetic spectrum, they are radiofrequencies. The original article you post states that these destroy virus' because they are of a crystilline structure? That is utterly false, as any first year biology student can and will tell you. The newspaper page you show tells of a ray that will destroy germs; that was an X-ray beam, and yes, they will destroy germs. High energy particles will destroy ANY living matter if you irradiate them.

Why don't we fire up some old RIFE generators (also refered to as Beck blood electrifications) and try them out? Why, you can still buy them from many sources. Guess what, they are advertised as Frequency generaters, because again, all they do is generate Radiofrequecy and nothing more. In addition, along with Cancer ablation, they are claimed to cure AIDS, Lyme disease, depression, etc... and there is positively no evidence that they do so. Quite the contrary, I have seen people who are terminal and embrace these along with other supposed miracle machines when there is no hope left, and sadly none of them has any effect other than setting back the dying patient several thousand dollars.

Are you aware of the lawsuits against vendors of these machines from customers? For the simple fact that they do not produce the results that they advertise. Do a google search, and you will find these lawsuits intermingled among ads.

And lastly, do you find it suspicious that Mr. Rife died of a supposed Valium overdose a full fifty years after his alleged discovery? This is what I meant about conspiracy conjecture. Were the powers that be really after him, I can't help but think that they would have silenced him long ago. Plus, valium overdose is a fairly barbaric thing: there are many other substances available within the medical community that will look like a natural death, especially in a person of that age.

Yes, the Phar industry is selfish, even when considered with the most uncynical mind. However, it is their funding which is responsible for most of the medical breakthroughs during the last few decades. But when you consider that they are responsible for withholding this technology, it is simply not the case. If these machines did work then Doctors themselves would purchase them and establish clinics offering RF treatments. They do it with every single modality of medical equipment, so why not these? Because of the FDA? Okay then, why not establish them in Mexico, or the Caribbean. If you could cure cancer with these devices, then the potential profits from such a device would have members of the established medical community lining up to perform these treatments, and not relegate their availability to web sites bearing new-age medical names. And if they did indeed work, you can be sure that they would cost several thousand times more than a couple of grand.

I'm sorry, but these machines don't work, neither in theory nor practice. And no amount of arguing will change that.



posted on May, 18 2005 @ 01:40 PM
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Ok everyone... Templarum has spoken!! it must all be B.S. everyone go home, nothing to see here.

Templarum, who has been trained by the Medical Establishment, to accept whatever they tell him.
Who hasn't performed any tests himself with Rife.
Who blindly accepts what his medical peers accept, and what the medical journals/books tell him.
The establishment that spends more time thinking up reasoning why Rife won't work, rather than trying it.

Until you have done real-world tests with your own rife machine.
Then your points are... well to put it bluntly... pointless...

Why not do some double-blind tests with a Rife machine?
Its painless, noiseless, takes less than 3 minutes.
A couple thousand for a machine isn't worth someones life?

And for folks who bought their own....You make it sound like someone who is going to die is getting "ripped-off" or something.
Who the hell cares about a couple thousand at that point?
How much does your Chemo and cancer treatments cost?
Hippocrite... ( oh right... you took that oath right?)

Please link to a lawsuit against a Rife machine, don't just spout that they exist.
Even if a lawsuit against a Rife machine does exist. There are reasons the treatment could fail. There is such a thing as waiting to long to start treatment. Maybe they waited till there was too many bad cells, but still want to blame whoever they can.

If you medical folks won't fund a couple thousand research to see if Rife works, then how about this:

How about some double-blind tests that prove Rife DOESN'T work.
If for no other reason than so we will shut up.
Show me that.



posted on May, 18 2005 @ 01:56 PM
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Originally posted by kdx175

Ok everyone... Templarum has spoken!! it must all be B.S. everyone go home, nothing to see here.

Templarum, who has been trained by the Medical Establishment, to accept whatever they tell him.
Who hasn't performed any tests himself with Rife.
Who blindly accepts what his medical peers accept, and what the medical journals/books tell him.
The establishment that spends more time thinking up reasoning why Rife won't work, rather than trying it.

Until you have done real-world tests with your own rife machine.
Then your points are... well to put it bluntly... pointless...

Why not do some double-blind tests with a Rife machine?
Its painless, noiseless, takes less than 3 minutes.
A couple thousand for a machine isn't worth someones life?

And for folks who bought their own....You make it sound like someone who is going to die is getting "ripped-off" or something.
Who the hell cares about a couple thousand at that point?
How much does your Chemo and cancer treatments cost?
Hippocrite... ( oh right... you took that oath right?)

Please link to a lawsuit against a Rife machine, don't just spout that they exist.
Even if a lawsuit against a Rife machine does exist. There are reasons the treatment could fail. There is such a thing as waiting to long to start treatment. Maybe they waited till there was too many bad cells, but still want to blame whoever they can.

If you medical folks won't fund a couple thousand research to see if Rife works, then how about this:

How about some double-blind tests that prove Rife DOESN'T work.
If for no other reason than so we will shut up.
Show me that.


My Point EXACTLY I wanted people to show me the original rife does not work and show proof it does not work. As there was 4 decades worth of research that Rife among others that say different. Thanks for your response kdx175



posted on May, 18 2005 @ 02:29 PM
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Yes, during those long years of training by the medical establishment we learned nothing of how the body actually works. We learned nothing of physics, chemistry, how the body works as a system and how it responds to stimulus. It was a twelve year seminar on how to bilk people and rob them of their quality of life for a maximum profit.

Double-blind tests? They're usually reserved for paranormal and ESP trial claims, aren't they. Yes, let's reduce medical testing to the realm of the paranormal. Perhaps it is only upon that level where your smug credulity will serve you best.

But you do have the ultimate power over us. Stage a revolution: next time you fall ill, next time a dear relative becomes terminal or your loved one contracts some vile virus; don't seek professional medical attention. Cancel your health insurance and buy your Omnificent RIFE machine, or whatever fantastic device that will cure you in ways hereto unknown. Yes, I will miss eighty hours a week of making ill people even more sick, and I shall have to find some other way of entertaining myself than knowing I could save a persons life but instead letting them dwindle away.

And all this despite the fact that the majority of people whom we see are indigent and are not expected to pay for treatments. If there's no money involved, than I suppose I am simply a sadist. And a dumb one at that, as we all must be if we are to forgo several thousand dollars of test for a machine that must work and instead invest trillions of dollars researching things that simply do not.





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