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originally posted by: cookadafood
How about still don’t trans the kids?
I’d love it if teachers went back to teaching kids and education them on skills they will need in life.
Not a pet project for some social justice warrior woke groomer.
a reply to: quintessentone
originally posted by: quintessentone
originally posted by: FlyersFan
originally posted by: PorkChop96
a reply to: quintessentone
From reading this article, the school went to her telling her she was a boy, not the other way around.
Yes. The child said she was unhappy - probably going through the growing-up angst that everyone does. The SCHOOL said she must be a boy and started transitioning her secretly. It wasn't the child who said she was a boy, it was the school that said it to the child. That's how the article reads.
If a child went to a school staff member and told them they are unhappy you can bet there were many questions to the child after that to ascertain what the child's problem was.
originally posted by: FlyersFan
originally posted by: quintessentone
obviously the child could not go to the parent for help..
Obviously that's not true. The child went into COVID lockdown, realized she was a girl and woke up from the school induced TRANS indoctrination just fine. Mother and child did just fine together. In fact their interactions were obviously healthier than the schools interactions with the child. Your statement has ZERO basis in fact.
originally posted by: quintessentone
originally posted by: TonyS
a reply to: quintessentone
for the school but neither are they woke nor stupid, just concerned for the child's wellbeing and misguided as to how to handle it.
Total bolox! The school was both woke and stupid. It encouraged this kid to believe she was gender confused after first confusing the kids in the first place.
They thought they were doing what's best for the child and it ended up biting them in the end, but live and learn and next time involve the parent as well as counsellors, psychologists and medical experts because a parent, the child and the school staff don't have any expertise in handling these situations.
originally posted by: marg6043
a reply to: quintessentone
Well I was a teacher for 10 years, yep I know very well what question teens seems to ask most, no ever once I have a child coming to me or any other of teacher asking about wanting to be trans, no ever we teachers gathered to discuss the sex preferences of children.
This new trend has been pushed by the trans movement now infiltrated in school for their agendas, the targeting of children needs to be banned, prohibited and make it a sexual assault on the children.
originally posted by: Terpene
a reply to: quintessentone
That's what happens when you care for the actual humans involved rather than just your own confirmation bias.
You're left with important questions unanswered...
originally posted by: FlyInTheOintment
a reply to: PorkChop96
With that you have nailed the weakness of the trans movement's argument. If neglect or abuse is suspected, if the parent cannot be trusted to act in the best interests of the child, then report it to child services & leave it with them for an initial assessment. If that ends up determining there is gender dysphoria, pursue careful 'wait & see' policy & support the child to live a normal life, perhaps with occasional counselling to see how they're doing. At 18 she can choose to transition if she wants to. The school should have ABSOLUTELY NO SINGLE PART IN THE (possible, eventual) TRANSITION, if indeed there ends up being one according with the mature wishes of the 18 yr old.
either, all the rational people filing law suits against schools are dismissed by a judge.
Or it's only some occasional nut jobs that actually file law suits and can prove any wrongdoings.
originally posted by: Terpene
a reply to: TDDAgain
One of the first lesson I taught my kid when he went to school was you can only have secrets with other kids, every secret he has with an adult he has to share with me too.
The other day he told me the code to his mother's bicycle, and the mobile phone. I think he understands the lesson pretty well.
You cant blame teacher if you fail basic education, kids will always be exposed to dangers, and statistically home is worst.
So if I'm going to make an assumption on quite some unknowns I use stats to asses the most probable scenario. trans or not doesn't matter at all, when it comes to the places bad things happen to kids.
I trust the kids to trust me more than anyone else, I'm not scared of the few propaganda pushing nut jobs that call themselves teachers. I'm also aware that my kid has the right to lie to me if he sees appropriate. And it would no one else's fault if he does so.
It's important to trust your kids decisions when it comes to who they decide to trust.
you can always help when you see the bond is not beneficial to your kid. Making those mistakes hones their social skills and they learn to read humans better and asses them better. Isolating them preemptively from failure or hard # is not doing them any good, and quite futile, unless you have nice cellar...
I think the fear is just insecurities parents have when letting kids in the hand of trained professionals. They might look bad..
their kids could trust teachers more, what absurd though a parent could have unless he really sucks...
Good thing we have driving licence somone could harm someone if he doesn't know what hes doing.
either, all the rational people filing law suits against schools are dismissed by a judge.
Or it's only some occasional nut jobs that actually file law suits and can prove any wrongdoings.
If it was so widespread and so malicious i think the legal apparatus combined with all the concerned parents would yeald better stories than a blown up lawsuit that ended up with no wrong doing...
These lawsuits would be pouring in daily if the reality presented by some in this thread had any truth to it.
There are more bad parents than there are bad teachers.
I agree, telling a kid, with whom he can not talk about xyz, is grooming.
Happens all the time, but again not at school.
maybe the mother told her to not lose a word about the beatings she got during covid, but I guess that's good parenting and not grooming...
I can sensationalize too, it's just stupid and only stupid people fall for it...