20 Officers in the Hallway while Texas School shooting occured

originally posted by: LordAhriman
Defending these cowards is disgusting.

and they have to live with it , I wouldn't be surprised if there was a rash of suicides in that Police department.

a reply to: asabuvsobelow

I'm not defending I'm taking an unpopular stance for an insane situation that people only think they understand.

I understand tactical situations quite well.

Did you know they went in and got their kids? But not everyone else's?

WATCH: Texas Police Spox on Live TV Confirmed Cops Went In for Their Own Kids During Uvalde Shooting

I don't give a damn what you think you understand.

originally posted by: asabuvsobelowand they have to live with it , I wouldn't be surprised if there was a rash of suicides in that Police department.

We can only hope.

originally posted by: projectvxn
a reply to: asabuvsobelow

I'm not defending I'm taking an unpopular stance for an insane situation that people only think they understand.

I understand tactical situations quite well.

Did you know they went in and got their kids? But not everyone else's?

WATCH: Texas Police Spox on Live TV Confirmed Cops Went In for Their Own Kids During Uvalde Shooting

I don't give a damn what you think you understand.

I get it mate , but I'm just arguing for the other side it does not mean I agree with them. The situation is Fluid so I'm not judging just yet.

a reply to: asabuvsobelow

The situation is insane.

Sorry to come at you so hard, but this is crazy # man.

They stood out there, when they could have stopped him BEFORE CHILDREN WERE KILLED, and didn't. Then they went and got THEIR #ing kids and left all the others to die. Then they played tough with parents. They also stopped a BP tactical team from going in.

This ended when a BP officer finally went in and blasted the #stain.

As far as I know, the officer wasn't on duty and he used a borrowed shotgun.

You DO NOT hesitate in situations like this. If the #er is killing kids actively you don't wait, form a perimeter, and the proceed to do what I listed above.

You stack up, kick doors, and kill the threat.

They were supposed to have learned this from Columbine. But in Parkland the coward cop there let children die.

Now a whole police department let children die. This isn't supposed to happen this way, God damn it.

originally posted by: projectvxn
a reply to: asabuvsobelow

The situation is insane.

Sorry to come at you so hard, but this is crazy # man.

They stood out there, when they could have stopped him BEFORE CHILDREN WERE KILLED, and didn't. Then they went and got THEIR #ing kids and left all the others to die. Then they played tough with parents. They also stopped a BP tactical team from going in.

I know I've read through all of it and it's being repeated over and over and over on the Media .

And look how Angry you are and look how angry everyone else is on here , people are agreeing who never agree on ATS .

and does that not Spark a question ? Mate something about this shooting does not sit right if all of this information is correct then they could have stopped it and someone up high chose not to .

Yet the Fire is being fueled non-stop. The last time people were this angry and this much in agreement was on September-11-2001 and we all know what happened after that.

a reply to: asabuvsobelow

and does that not Spark a question ? Mate something about this shooting does not sit right if all of this information is correct then they could have stopped it and someone up high chose not to .

Yet the Fire is being fueled non-stop. The last time people were this angry and this much in agreement was on September-11-2001 and we all know what happened after that.

I don't disagree.

But every ten minutes this gets far worse than it did ten minutes before.

You bet I'm angry. I'm angry because I know better and God damn it do I wish I could have been there to stop it.

I would DIE to stop something like that. It's in my training and in my blood. It's why I chose to become a soldier. I accepted that I might die, or be horribly wounded in return for the preservation of innocent life.

God, there is no higher calling as far as I can tell.

Some orders you do not follow. These cops were derelict, they were clearly self-interested, and they displayed cowardice. They do not belong in that #ing uniform.

I get where you're going with it.

Even the governor said that he was lied to by the department. God only knows what's really happening.

originally posted by: projectvxn
a reply to: asabuvsobelow

I'm not defending I'm taking an unpopular stance for an insane situation that people only think they understand.

I understand tactical situations quite well.

Did you know they went in and got their kids? But not everyone else's?

WATCH: Texas Police Spox on Live TV Confirmed Cops Went In for Their Own Kids During Uvalde Shooting

I don't give a damn what you think you understand.

Wow, I hadn't heard that, if true that is utterly disgusting. I would think and hope that they got other kids out too but their number one priority should've of been neutralizing the threat.

a reply to: projectvxn

I would DIE to stop something like that. It's in my training and in my blood. It's why I chose to become a soldier. I accepted that I might die, or be horribly wounded in return for the preservation of innocent life.

Amen .

and that is why Cops should be recruited and trained like Soldiers , yet they are recruited and trained like office workers.

originally posted by: LordAhriman
Defending these cowards is disgusting.

Maybe they were working with the school teacher who unlocked the back door for Salvador Ramos?

These men and women are trained for these situations. There's no excuse for following procedure when a lunatic is killing kids. How could you stand down for almost an hour while children are being shot. If I had a vest and a gun, yeah I think I'd wanna save the kids or die trying.

originally posted by: PorteurDeMort

If I had a vest and a gun, yeah I think I'd wanna save the kids or die trying.

I'm hoping to die saving someone, or our country. Not hooked up to an IV bag.

a reply to: asabuvsobelow

Apparently, per the latest from the Texas DPS, it was the on-scene commander who "mistakenly" determined that the situation had changed from an "Active Shooter", which protocol would require responding officers to seek out and neutralize (kill) the shooter, to a "Barricaded Subject", which leaves the authorities to negotiate with the suspect.

Which is confusing since the responding officers were standing outside of the classrooms in which the shooter was firing shots, and from which 911 calls were being made by children, pleading for help, in those classrooms to the officers' dispatch.

What is more, it has been reported that the responding LEO'S were forced to wait in the hall outside those classrooms while a janitor with a key for the classroom doors was located!


Seems like a total cluster**** all the around