Lets "imagine" for a second.

Lets say the "Area 51" in Nevada really is a fake ( it could be. chances are an instillation like that would NOT be visible Via Google Earth.)

Say we infiltrate this facility. It does not matter how

We get in and find nothing no UFO'S no Aliens ( i don't believe in either but some people do so)

We find nothing of interest, maybe a few old SR-71'S or U 2'S

No matter what we find in there, we walk out smarter than before.

I seek knowledge, not to ostracize The U.S. Government

I don't have any idea of what goes on in Area 51, but i want to know simply because of my inborn curiosity.

If The U.S. Government has an enormous facility, so many security percations, and a helicopter to greet you at the front gate just to make us think there really is an Area 51? Well then if that IS the case, hats off to The U.S. Government

I agree. No matter what is found there IMO we have a right to know what the hell we're paying for everyday of our lives, humans just dont live long enough to be worked to death paying for someone else's secrets and lies.

I'm sure a walk-on would face a descent show of force in order to scare off the would be truth seekers but I seriously doubt anything more than that would happen. I'd imagine when we got to the hangers they'd be locked or some such though I doubt there's many locks on that place. They'd problably just given in and allow the angry mob to take a guided -no- photography tour just to shut them up.

Though even if we did it and remained unchecked I doubt we could actually get into any of the special projects areas in a peaceful way. I'm sure if there was such a thing as alien technology there its problably kept behind blast doors that we wouldn't get past. On the other hand if we held a hippyfest there and millions of people showed up I'm sure by the end of the week every air duct, every hid-a-rock enterance, every discrete bunker would be full of hippies. The blast doors would open from the inside and out would poor hundreds of unwashed hippies who found a bookcase full of books on free thinking that has acted as an impenetratable wall against military types fiding the secret enterance behind it as those types would never read a book, much less one on peace.

Oh to dream...

I can see the flyer now, Jamfest Area 51, Its outta this world!

This is crazy. I don't know who some of you people think you are, but none of your theories would ever work.

I'm sorry but you could march with a crowd of 10,000 and it wouldn't matter. There are things that have been known for years that I suppose everyone has forgotten. I'm not risking anything saying this so; land mines, trip mines, snipers, classified choppers of unbelievable firepower, radar detection, heat sensors, cold sensors, metal detectors, high plastiques sensors, not to mention at least 5 crews of two driving around aimlessly 24 hours a day waiting to call in an entire army brigade at the drop of a hat.

And to those who think bringing in news crews for this would work. Ha. The land around gl has little to no reception, no cell reception and anything else can be controlled. Nothing would ever be broadcast because we control what is broadcast. Sorry boys, unless, well after posting here with no security measures taken on your identity you'd never be accepted, but the only way is to pass a simple F-22 clearance near Nellis AFB and work your way up.

what no_one817 really says... if you don't have a job, education or very high 'trees' the only thing you will see of Area 51 is the outside where cammo dudes are scaring you away.

Infiltrating a classified area is not done and in my opinion a very stupid thing to do.

[edit on 18/1/08 by GerhardPegel]

I think you 'are who'(an *insider, there no_one817), I also am in absolute agreement here, on the fact any of us may as well "Wish for IceWaterinHell",
as try to infiltrate(IN ANY MANNER,Any way at ALL), gl, or area 51, ect...
As well the comment regarding that "Larry King Segment for TNT channel;
That was NOT "Inside Area 51"; as you posters seem to be engaging in
a debate over the "Best Way To get *Inside". Larry King, was Never inside; as well TNT had to bring its Equipment with them, AND I'd wager a
fine bottle of wine, that the Producers of that TV Show, had to "Let the
GOV. *know/OR/Get some type of *Go-Ahead/OK, to even do the show on the base, from *Racheal, Nev.
I loved your ideas, very engaging, as well *NO_ONE817>I am certain I'n NOT the only ATS member Awaiting (patiently+curiously) for you to get
On with what you began in THREAD;"TESTING,ect...
I think you MAY be'the real thing...and I'd like to hear what you have to
contribute to "Truth, or understanding of any kind as long as it I-S *True!
So, Please "Continue"; I'll be *looking for a new thread, as u said;"With The Same Numbers"; however ANYONE can change, or make a screenname with *817 in the name...I Hope you will either keep this
screename as is, or how will any of us know it *is you???
But Do *Keep It Coming, if I'm right+you are
"The Real Thing"...
peace+health,*Shelly

Originally posted by LibBLVRdoc

As well the comment regarding that "Larry King Segment for TNT channel;
That was NOT "Inside Area 51"; as you posters seem to be engaging in
a debate over the "Best Way To get *Inside". Larry King, was Never inside; as well TNT had to bring its Equipment with them, AND I'd wager a
fine bottle of wine, that the Producers of that TV Show, had to "Let the
GOV. *know/OR/Get some type of *Go-Ahead/OK, to even do the show on the base, from *Racheal, Nev.
..

1) You spelled Rachel wrong (thats kinda hard to mess up). 2) I specifically stated that the broadcast was "outside" Area 51. I really don't know what else to say here except to maybe suggest you brush up an your typing/comprehension.

Heres what you do...

You go to the outside of Area 51, and bring a gun with you, and a hidden camera on you.

Now, shoot yourself in the face because you're an idiot.


Just kidding.

No, really, shoot yourself in the leg or something. Then toss the guy away and crawl to the outside of Area 51 and just keep going until someone spots you. Then probably won't leave you out in the desert to die a horrible and stupid death. Maybe they'll bring you to the Area 51 nurse, and then you can get it on film. Maybe there will be an alien with a fever lying down next to you.

It's practically guaranteed to work.

I'm late to this party and havnt read the entire thread, but I can tell you this from first hand knowledge...

The US Government has a type of security area that if you try unauthorized entry, you will be shot on sight. No questions asked.

To get to one of those areas you would have to pass thru several 'less secure' cordons. So I doubt you would get that far, but any 'secrets' that you really want to see are inside those type areas.

I used to wear a gun in some of those 'exclusion zones'
not at GL however

Oh and another possibility.
We can just by a balloon and get it in the air outside area51 territory. They can't do anything, but you have a fantastic view. And a balloon can carry also heavier cameras.

As a good advice what could i just add hmm:
Oh yeah i have one: Don't leave your finger prints on this little bird you're about to buid.Would be a shame to get caught up because you were arrested 5 years ago & your F.Ps were taken.Or worse: dna samples
*When absurdity meets reality

As a second good advice i'd say operate the night but after thinking about it twice i think guards may be more vigilants the night so the day may be more appropriate ...who knows.

Well yeah, me again

A though about it a little and come to some conclusions. First, the best plane would be a glider with an electric motor. It would have to be lanched from some miles from the restricted area. But there is a problem. Area 51 has the biggest radars on the world and they would definitely see the plane. BUT they also see every bird coming. The bird waves with the wings. So the RCS changes every time it waves. Well the solution to this would be to fly the plane that way:
/ \ / \ / \ where / and \ is wing at different angle. But another problem. I'm sure the computers that monitor the radar have RCS of desert birds in their memory. So, first we would have to find out the RCS of desert birds and then make the plane.

Pretty complicated. It's not a thing that a group of enthusiasts would be able to do, but a professional spy....

You march 10,000 American Citizens to Area 51, and you are guaranteed entrance.

I am willing to bet my life on the fact that the US Military would not kill 10,000 civilians trying to enter Area 51. Good luck trying to explain that one to the rest of the country.

I haven't been here for very long but have read some very intellectual threads, bordering on genius. To those of you who concieved this sceme, it is by far the most perfect way to commit suicide.
To the poster who said that the security at a secured facility such as this wouldn't fire on 5000 or even 10,000 people thinking that they will get access because of numbers,think again. If warning verbally and firing warning shots had no success they would have no problem what so ever of opening fire.
Hopefully this is all a fantasy because if your serious, well see ya!


[edit on 2/1/2008 by Vulgate]

Originally posted by Vulgate
I haven't been here for very long but have read some very intellectual threads, bordering on genius. To those of you who concieved this sceme, it is by far the most perfect way to commit suicide.
To the poster who said that the security at a secured facility such as this wouldn't fire on 5000 or even 10,000 people thinking that they will get access because of numbers,think again. If warning verbally and firing warning shots had no success they would have no problem what so ever of opening fire.
Hopefully this is all a fantasy because if your serious, well see ya!


[edit on 2/1/2008 by Vulgate]

The Military would move all sensitive equipment away before firing on 10,000+ civilians. Please do not entertain such a foolish thought.

If Area 51 was Infiltrated by like 4000 RC airplanes all at once, they couldn't handle all of those, I'm sure a few would get through to take pictures/video, however the only thing about this, is all they would do, is either find the group of people and carpet bomb them, or use a Tactical Nuke. Nice government hey? lol

and the ones that were captured would spend life in Prison, most likely in a Prison that doesn't "Exist" that isn't even on the map, they would be interrogated, by government officials, to find out if any other plans have been devised.

Infiltrating Area 51 would be considered a National Security Threat, it is a Federal Offense.

Thus, if you were to alert Media that you were going to do this, In hope that Area 51 military constitutes would not fire upon you. They have numerous warning signs placed around the base warning that "The Use of Deadly Force is Authorized" and they wouldn't care if the media seen them shooting people, because legally, they are allowed,

the President would simply release a Statement saying something to the effect "Earlier this afternoon armed forces attempted to infiltrate an unnamed military facility in Nevada. The civilians infiltrating the military facility, were fired upon to protect to secrecy of the United States Government, the decision to fire upon the civilians was authorized by members of the military and myself. We cannot allow information of military importance to fall into enemy hands. Thus, making the United States Government vulnerable to enemy forces. I hope that people will learn from what happened this afternoon. and to take to heart that the United States government is bound by secrecy and to protect the people of this fair nation.








Now

I know they have Flying saucers there, think about it for a minute

Crash landing in Roswell Nevada on July 7, 1947

and then on September 23, 1947 (just a couple months later) Majestic 12 Program started.



If you look up Majestic on www.Dictionary.com


This is the Definition of the word

majestic


adjective
1. majestic in manner or bearing; superior to mundane matters; "his majestic presence"; "olympian detachment"; "olympian beauty and serene composure"
2. having or displaying great dignity or nobility; "a gallant pageant"; "lofty ships"; "majestic cities"; "proud alpine peaks" [syn: gallant]
3. belonging to or befitting a supreme ruler; "golden age of imperial splendor"; "purple tyrant"; "regal attire"; "treated with royal acclaim"; "the royal carriage of a stag's head"



The word Regal Attire means:

1. Of or relating to a monarch; royal.
2. Belonging to or befitting a monarch: regal attire.
3. Magnificent; splendid.




One day.....

1. An Employee of Area 51 will either Be Disgruntled and tell the world about Area 51. (The government will deny any knowledge of him tho)

2. Area 51 will be Declassified (Highly Unlikely)

3. An employee will be on his death bed and not have any family to put in Jeopardy, and will tell the media about what happened, and what is at Area 51 (again the Government will deny any knowledge of him being employed at the Groom Lake facility.)



What do they think people are going to do if they find out there are Aliens there, all they are going to do is be relieved that they know what's there. it's not like people are going to start attacking or anything. or People are going to start freaking out, I'm pretty sure that Aliens wouldn't come here just for the U.S Government to know about. People arent going to do anything different than they are doing right now, most people believe theres something going on there anyways, and if they were going to attack they would have done it by now, they don't need the government to confirm their beliefs

What are the Odds that just 2 months after the Roswell Incident, the U.S Government starts a Program called "Majestic 12" and the word Majestic has all those meanings that I posted in the last reply, the meanings are very related to Aliens.


I could not see it having any significance, if it was named something eles that really inst related to UFOs, and also if it wasn't started 2 months later


the simple fact that it started 2 months later, and the name of the Program is related to UFOs is what really makes me believe that they did recover Beings from the craft, and are now communicating, and working together.




another thing as well Robert Lazar who claims to be an engineer on Area 51's Base, went on record about Area 51, and when he was checked into, they couldn't find any record of him working at certain job sites, his child hood school, or even hospital records, showing that he even exits, now if he didn't actually know anything, and Area 51 knew that he actually didn't work there, do you think the would actually go through the trouble of making him not exist? as well he shows proof (newspaper clippings and whatnot) that he actually worked at the places that they say he didn't work at.