What actually happened at the Capitol.

a reply to: djz3ro

So where in that does it say go kill people? If that was the case then every fighter around the world should be convicted of terrorism. Seriously. It is like someone who goes to Trump U and sues because they could not make money. An idiot.

originally posted by: Darth_Prime
and as I always say if Trump is a fascist Obama was and everyone before them, and everyone after them... but no one wants to get into that critique

As I said we truly throw that word and a few others around way too much. ANTIFA has played the part of the jackboot a good deal too, so they can call themselves whatever doesn't really change much when we look at their actions. I remember Berkley ANTIFA very well and I live 20 mins from Downtown Portland. Maybe we have seen different varieties of them.

Antifa need fascists to exist to be Anti-fascist if fascists exist Antifa has failed right...

Actually that isn't true and the vast majority of the time it has not been true... All they need is a bogyman that are easy to create out of thin air.

a reply to: Xtrozero

All these words Antifa, Communists, Socialist, Fascist, Fascism, Nazi, get thrown around without understanding the meaning, and it renders them useless for the people who are

originally posted by: Darth_Prime

All these words Antifa, Communists, Socialist, Fascist, Fascism, Nazi, get thrown around without understanding the meaning, and it renders them useless for the people who are

Well except when you use them as weapons. How many true racist or fascist are in America... It doesn't matter if MSM and alt left leaders say there is one behind every tree. Remember the McCarthy era. History repeats itself once again.

It is also nice to label everything you disagree with as hate speech. The reality is everything is hate speech to someone...lol

a reply to: Xtrozero

I mean, there are enough of these groups, that exist in America, the number of members I don't know for sure, and you can't trust the SPLC

originally posted by: Darth_Prime
I mean, there are enough of these groups, that exist in America, the number of members I don't know for sure, and you can't trust the SPLC

There is about 2 million gang members, mostly minorities. The White Racist are also criminals that mainly develop from prison life. They are about 10% of the total gang members.

I would love for someone to actually point are a Fascist in America...lol And as far as racism the left isn't talking about criminals they are suggesting symmetric racism as it seeps into every crack of our society, and I would love for someone to actually point it out somewhere in reality.

They are nothing more than propaganda weapons as I said to demonize people that one might disagree with.

originally posted by: matafuchs
a reply to: djz3ro

It is like someone who goes to Trump U and sues because they could not make money. An idiot.

You mean the Trump University that got shut down by the feds for fraud in which Trump had to pay 25 Million for?

originally posted by: matafuchs
a reply to: djz3ro

So where in that does it say go kill people? If that was the case then every fighter around the world should be convicted of terrorism. Seriously. It is like someone who goes to Trump U and sues because they could not make money. An idiot.

President Reject Trump told them they had to fight. Anyone can see that a bunch of his supporters went down there looking for a fight.

He instigated it. Of course he wouldn't tell people to to kill, the 25th would be enacted sooner than you can say "Tick-tock, MAGA-Kraken-BOOM!

originally posted by: Darth_Prime
a reply to: Xtrozero

All these words Antifa, Communists, Socialist, Fascist, Fascism, Nazi, get thrown around without understanding the meaning, and it renders them useless for the people who are

Shill should also be on that list.

Honestly, I never expected this is what ATS would become by 2021 back when I first signed up after lurking since 9/11

a reply to: djz3ro

Yes, true, I am surprised how much conspiracy theorists went from that to Trump worship and the only conspiracy is the left and democrats

originally posted by: Xtrozero
Remember the McCarthy era. History repeats itself once again.

Yeah... except McCarthy was actually right.

a reply to: Darth_Prime

there's always been an undercurrent of paranoid, right wing sentiment in the american-flavoured conspiratorial psyche and in retrospect it's kind of easy to trace it through from things like JFK and the moon landing hoax up to Q business......

but yeah it's pretty baffling to watch the slow motion trainwreck of it just totally taking over in the last 5 years ;

originally posted by: tanstaafl

Yeah... except McCarthy was actually right.

I'm sure going after Hollywood saved America...It was a time where they would say you give up two people and we will not cancel you rinse and repeat, AND in a country were freedoms allows you to be a communist if you want. Pretty freak'in dark....

originally posted by: continuousThunder
a reply to: Darth_Prime

there's always been an undercurrent of paranoid, right wing sentiment in the american-flavoured conspiratorial psyche and in retrospect it's kind of easy to trace it through from things like JFK and the moon landing hoax up to Q business......

but yeah it's pretty baffling to watch the slow motion trainwreck of it just totally taking over in the last 5 years ;

Who even follows Q... I don't think I ever read a single thing, but hey its a talking point for the left. You can't have the left freaking out for four years and then complain about the right. Talking about JFK or moon landing hoax we can put systemic racism right up there too, but that has not stopped so many on the left going ape sh!t trying to find it....lol

I'm sure they found it in the elk, Washington, Columbus, and Lincoln along with many other statues they tore down. There is a big reason why terms like WOKE, social justice warriors, cancel culture, gaslighting, history revisionist, virtual signaling, dog whistling ...etc have become common to describe what the left has been doing daily for 4 years now. Its not the right that has been burning, looting destroying, attacking....So when you suggest 5 years maybe you need to look in the mirror to see that.

originally posted by: Xtrozero
originally posted by: tanstaafl
Yeah... except McCarthy was actually right."

I'm sure going after Hollywood saved America...It was a time where they would say you give up two people and we will not cancel you rinse and repeat, AND in a country were freedoms allows you to be a communist if you want. Pretty freak'in dark....

Irrelevant to what I said. He was right. Our country was riddled with communists and marxists.

I am not in agreement with the way the conspiracy was pursued. That was wrong.

But... do you think it has gotten any better in the last 70 years?

Also, I would argue that being a marxist/communist does, in fact, place one firmly in the camp of engaging in sedition and treason.

originally posted by: tanstaafl

originally posted by: Xtrozero
originally posted by: tanstaafl
Yeah... except McCarthy was actually right."

I'm sure going after Hollywood saved America...It was a time where they would say you give up two people and we will not cancel you rinse and repeat, AND in a country were freedoms allows you to be a communist if you want. Pretty freak'in dark....

Irrelevant to what I said. He was right. Our country was riddled with communists and marxists.

I am not in agreement with the way the conspiracy was pursued. That was wrong.

But... do you think it has gotten any better in the last 70 years?

Also, I would argue that being a marxist/communist does, in fact, place one firmly in the camp of engaging in sedition and treason.[/quote

So much for freedom of speech. That's how fascism gains hold.

Not a leftist, by the way.

originally posted by: tanstaafl

originally posted by: Xtrozero
Remember the McCarthy era. History repeats itself once again.

Yeah... except McCarthy was actually right.

Do you know how many communists McCarthy uncovered ? The answer is NONE.

And you maintain McCarthy was right. How many below None would you need for him to be wrong ?

a reply to: alldaylong

I'm pretty sure that there is massive ignorance by some on here about what Socialism, Marxism and Communism actually is. Some folk equate the lot with voting/supporting anything other than Republican.

a reply to: Xtrozero

Who even follows Q...

Look at the signs, they're everywhere at trump rallies, how could you miss them?

originally posted by: tanstaafl

Also, I would argue that being a marxist/communist does, in fact, place one firmly in the camp of engaging in sedition and treason.

Well yes anything not liberal/alt left is engaging in sedition and treason today... I get it, I read the liberal talking points...lol

Even Ron Paul has been canceled with his libertarian views...

So how old are you to suggest we were riddled with communists and marxists in the 50s? It was 90% a scare tactics of the cold war, hell the Goverment even outlawed pot because it would turn you into a commi...

I don't think you even know what you are talking about here, but I am seeing a pattern... Instead of commi it is called other things like racist, but the pattern is the same... name everything you are not in agreement with as hate speech and/or inciting violence to push it all to use the legal system to further canceling.