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Are people finally catching on how dangerous ANTIFA really is?

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posted on Aug, 30 2019 @ 08:41 PM
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originally posted by: Barcs
How many mass shootings has ANTIFA done? What's their body count? I'm sorry but they are a group of pussies. The problem is white supremacy and that's pretty obvious. Calling them terrorist is laughable.


Several...

Antifa Member Killed After Pulling Gun on Cops at School



Antifa Activist Shot Dead Trying to Attack ICE Detention Facility

The above Antifa terrorist even wrote a manifesto stating he is Antifa.

Washington ICE detention center attacker Willem Van Spronsen wrote 'I am Antifa' manifesto before assault

Even one of the mass shooters/murderers was an Antifa member.

Dayton shooter Connor Betts may be antifa’s first mass killer

That's not counting the violent attacks that all Antifa members are known for, or the literature they have been spreading which shows them wanting to kill our LEOs/ICE personnel/Border Patrol Personnel, etc.

Antifa is a terrorist group, and stupid democrat/liberal representatives are condoning such violence when they themselves talk crap about our LEOs/ICE/BP.



edit on 30-8-2019 by ElectricUniverse because: add comment.




posted on Aug, 30 2019 @ 08:49 PM
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a reply to: continuousThunder

How about you post a reliable link corroborating your claims instead of talking crap without any evidence?...



posted on Aug, 30 2019 @ 08:54 PM
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originally posted by: Barcs
How many mass shootings has ANTIFA done? What's their body count? I'm sorry but they are a group of pussies. The problem is white supremacy and that's pretty obvious. Calling them terrorist is laughable.


BTW, your claim about "white supremacy being the problem" it's what's laughable... Is that why so many far left-wingers have had to FAKE hate crimes, because white supremacy is so obvious"?... The last event of "real white supremacy" showed at most a dozen or a couple dozen white supremacists in the U.S. But you leftists make LOTS of FAKE claims about everyone in the right being "white supremacists..." That's what's laughable, especially when the majority of the people making these claims are WHITE Liberals... Such as Antifa members claiming Candance Owens is a "soft nazi" among other stupid claims...



posted on Aug, 30 2019 @ 09:06 PM
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a reply to: ElectricUniverse

You said all the left is socialist and communists.

Communism is a very distinct term. And as I said, I met you half way by saying his youth was a little different, but even true socialism is a bit of a stretch. He's definitely the furthest left candidate I've ever seen though (with the possibility of getting a ticket).

I said it's hyperbolic because it is. Yup, Bernie used to be infatuated with Russia. I've even heard he used to claim to be a communist. But if we get to define peoples past and infatuations to now just because... We could say Trump is still a Democrat, because he used to be (which I disagree with). We could even grasp at more straws by saying since he allegedly had Mein Kumpf and read it nightly, he's a nazi (again, don't subscribe to).

I still maintain you represent the inverse of what you critize... A hyperbolic camp who uses extremes to define a whole.



posted on Aug, 30 2019 @ 09:32 PM
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originally posted by: CriticalStinker

You said all the left is socialist and communists.


Nope, i WROTE all REPRESENTATIVES are socialists and there is one communist, and because the majority of the left is voting for these people a majority of the left are socialists or communists."


originally posted by: CriticalStinker
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We could say Trump is still a Democrat, because he used to be (which I disagree with). We could even grasp at more straws by saying since he allegedly had Mein Kumpf and read it nightly, he's a nazi (again, don't subscribe to).

I still maintain you represent the inverse of what you critize... A hyperbolic camp who uses extremes to define a whole.


Really? does POTUS Trump embraces issues that democrats/Liberals are embracing today?... You know, abolishing ICE, the BP, allowing illegals in without vetting them, giving medicare to all including liberals, etc?... he does not, so how could he be a democrat or liberal?...

BTW, reading a book doesn't equal to condoning or embracing the policies mentioned in the book... JFK wrote that he admired Hitler...

How JFK secretly ADMIRED Hitler: Explosive book reveals former President’s praise for the Nazis as he travelled through Germany before Second World War

I guess JFK and all democrats since JFK are secretly nazis now...

You are the one making hyperbole BS...



posted on Aug, 30 2019 @ 09:44 PM
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a reply to: ElectricUniverse




You are the one making hyperbole BS...


No, I said I didn't agree with the inverse points I proposed to you, rather if we were playing by your rules they would be acceptable.

And I still maintain I disagree with either sides hyperbole.



posted on Aug, 30 2019 @ 09:47 PM
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a reply to: PublicOpinion

ANTIFA are not socialists. They are totalitarians.
It is there way or else.
Their way or violence.
Their approved speech or rioting.
They tolerate no deviation from their agenda
and punish those they deem immoral
based on their own recently created moral code.
That is not socialism, that is totalitarianism.

Did you know that "forcibly suppressing opposition and criticism"
is a characteristic of fascism, hmmmmm.
Isn't this exactly what ANTIFA is doing on campuses around the nation
and everywhere they imagine opposition to their philosophy to be?

Isn't this what ANTIFA is demanding? Imposing a form of government in which the political authority exercises absolute and centralized control over all aspects of life, the individual is subordinated to the state, and opposing political and cultural expression is suppressed. At least it appears to be their agenda. This is the actual definition of a totalitarian. This also quite well defines ANTIFA. They are the enforcement arm, created to suppress political opposition to progressive liberalism; whose goal is a form of socialism that takes control over all personal aspects of a persons life, health, education, speech (PC and what students are allowed to hear and say on campuses), sexuality (demanding everyone wholeheartedly embrace all forms of sexuality and decrying heterosexuality as oppressive and even mean if a heterosexual won't date a transsexual). But mostly imposing their moral code and their "progressive/liberal" on others through violent and intimidating means.



posted on Aug, 30 2019 @ 10:27 PM
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a reply to: ElectricUniverse

yeah, googling a name is extremely difficult, isn't it?
"Andy Ngo" is a very short search string, if you can move yourself to try it you'll find a whole swathe of results reporting on it. Here's the top result, to save your poor weary fingers:

Andy Ngo is a dumbhead

and while i'm entirely sure you're already readying the "yeah well salon isn't a reputable publication in my universe" defense, not only does the article run down the undisputed facts of what's happened and why it came out, but it includes the video of him laughing along with Patriot Prayer, as well as examples of his selective editing, using his own tweets and then showing the full videos in context. Since you were so quick to accuse me of talking crap i'm sure you'll be just as quick to check out the actual undeniable video footage and realise that it could be posted to a geocities site for all it matters - it's damning material by his own hand.



posted on Aug, 30 2019 @ 11:09 PM
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a reply to: continuousThunder

You are still talking crap. First of all, the one weapon I heard them talking about is "pepper spray." I also did hear them say how an Antifa woman threw a garbage container at someone and it was thrown back at her. The Antifa blockhead was the one who started it, but it had to be you claiming the opposite...

Second of all, knowing how your crazy brothers and sisters in Antifa have attacked people it isn't inconceivable why people going to protest from the opposition would put on protective gear. That isn't proof that they were going to start an attack, but since leftists like you love to LIE no wonder you are making false claims about your political opposition...

Ironic how another WHITE liberal/leftist wants to make false claims about someone who is both gay and a minority...

BTW... OMG he is laughing with people whom share his views... I guess he is a nazi too for laughing... Heck, there is a black dude whom is with the PP, i guess he must be a nazi too huh?... The moronic claims coming from the left, including you, are just hilarious...

You want to find racism? Look in a mirror...



edit on 30-8-2019 by ElectricUniverse because: add and correct comment.



posted on Sep, 6 2019 @ 09:32 PM
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a reply to: The2Billies

September 6, 2019

The Federal Government and many State Law Enforcement agencies are taking action against ANTIFA terrorists, without waiting for the official Terrorist Organization designation to be approved.

BRAVO! : twitter.com...




posted on Sep, 7 2019 @ 06:04 AM
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a reply to: The2Billies




and punish those they deem immoral


Like what ... history?



based on their own recently created moral code.


...which they created in those "recently created" open societies, eh?



Did you know that "forcibly suppressing opposition and criticism"
is a characteristic of fascism, hmmmmm.


Which is why you're coming across as a fascist yourself.



Isn't this what ANTIFA is demanding? Imposing a form of government in which the political authority exercises absolute and centralized control over all aspects of life, the individual is subordinated to the state, and opposing political and cultural expression is suppressed. At least it appears to be their agenda.


It appears you have no idea what anti-fascism actually is about. Surprise! Look, said mitigation of violence wouldn't be necessary if those pesky fascists wouldn't kill people.

You don't get that, right?



posted on Sep, 8 2019 @ 12:14 PM
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Definition of Fascism Websters Dictionary

Definition of fascism

1 often capitalized : a political philosophy, movement, or regime (such as that of the Fascisti) that exalts nation and often race above the individual and that stands for a centralized autocratic government headed by a dictatorial leader, severe economic and social regimentation, and forcible suppression of opposition
2 : a tendency toward or actual exercise of strong autocratic or dictatorial control early instances of army fascism and brutality

ANTIFA is a political philosophy and movement, that stands for a centralized autocratic government, with severe social regimentation (except for drugs and consensual adult sexuality). It engages in forcible suppression of opposition. I has created an "army" that actually exercises brutality to enforce their ideology.

ANTIFA springs out of progressive liberalism and leftist ideology which supports the Democratic National Committee and Party. They demand several social regimentation when it comes to the amount of melanin and how one speaks to and interacts with those who have melanin levels different from the individual.

ANTIFA forcibly suppresses opposition on campuses around the US. They also attempt to forcibly suppress anyone who holds an idea or ideology they disapprove of.


ANTIFA's morality includes the demand that everyone think exactly as they do, behave as they do, and follow their social dictates or be subject to extreme social control measures until people are terrified to say or do anything that ANTIFA disapproves of.

ANTIFA is for centralized strong government and governmental control, i.e. all the socialist policies they demand be enacted. Historically, socialist countries either have a strong dictator, or strong governmental control over ones life. For example, Sweden dictates what one can and can not name one's child so the child doesn't have their feelings hurt later due to their name. Right now all countries with socialized medical care (Europe included) have bureaucrats who decide who is socially important enough and who is a social burden and base curative health care decisions based on that. Excluding the vast majority of elderly, handicapped and not a few small children from curative care. Although they do a great job at palliative care (giving people drugs to keep them pain free and not trouble to the caretakers). Sweden demands people inform the government within one week of any move of residence, so they will know where to send their benefits. Like Michelle O. controlled what children all over the US were and were not allowed to eat while at school, to the point of confiscating parental sent meals. Like in the UK where Doctors had family members hold down a struggling elderly relative to receive the euthanasia injections.

Recently, ANTIFA has demanded that Christians not be allowed to open businesses because they are Christians. What if I substitute the word Jews for Christians? i.e. Chik-fil-a Fascist anyone?

ANTIFA has, in my personal opinion, become the "enforcement arm" of the progressive left and Democratic Party ideology. Their goal is to terrorize through rioting, violence while dressed very similar to KKK in that instead of wearing solid white they wear solid black which conceals their identity. The goal of their terrorism is to force submission to their ideology and to force submission to their morality and socialist demands.

ANTIFA, has much in common with the Secret Police of Germany's WWII.



edit on 9/8/19 by The2Billies because: addition and accidentally erased previously written content and was unable to retreive it, so rewrote as best I could remember.



posted on Sep, 8 2019 @ 12:24 PM
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a reply to: The2Billies

You nailed it with that one. Best summary of the stuff that goes on currently I have ever read since I joined.



posted on Sep, 8 2019 @ 12:29 PM
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a reply to: The2Billies

The definition of fascism in combination with crap made up for the lulz & terror labels: The2Billies.

Where the fck do you even get your "information" from?


edit on 8-9-2019 by PublicOpinion because: (no reason given)



posted on Sep, 8 2019 @ 12:30 PM
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Where the fck do you even get your "information" from?

Observing real life?



posted on Sep, 8 2019 @ 12:33 PM
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a reply to: Oleandra88

On Twitch?



posted on Sep, 8 2019 @ 12:50 PM
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Whatever that may be.

Seeing guys like you justifying your "brothers" who set cars on fire, smash windows, punch people and be generally obnoxious do-not-goods. Harming normal law abiding citizens because you all think this is how you will be heared.

This is what little kids do to get attention. Only the kids have learned that it does not work. Please keep the soon upcoming what-about-ism for yourself. Other groups are bad too yada yada.



posted on Sep, 8 2019 @ 12:56 PM
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a reply to: Oleandra88

Slowly there, framing one. All I was asking for is a source, every Antifa activist I know promotes a very different agenda.

Put up or shut up already?



posted on Sep, 8 2019 @ 12:57 PM
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a reply to: PublicOpinion

Let us agree to disagree before it gets ugly.



posted on Sep, 8 2019 @ 01:05 PM
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a reply to: Oleandra88

Why? You can't have a more factual debate without being ugly? That's your problem, not mine.

This is exactly why threads like this should be in the mud-pit. It's a pity this one isn't, so much mud left untouched... on the right.





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