Are people finally catching on how dangerous ANTIFA really is?

a reply to: Extorris
Proud Boys are not far right wing Nationalist. You are referring to National Socialists. Skokie Illinois you will find some. They are small in number. Twenty to thirty at the most at most demonstrations. Antifa on the other hand is backed and blessed by the Democratic Party. Trump never has blessed any far right wing extremists. Matter of fact they hate Trump. His daughter is married to a Jew and Trump supports Israel. So how do we that support Trump become Nationalist fascists in possibly your eyes and ANTIFA?

ANTIFA in Kansas City defaced the WW1 museum. In their graffiti is the hammer and sickle. This is a sign of Marxism/communism. This philosophy has run counter current to our constitution. In Portland they have demonstrated violence against bystanders I guess look like potential Trump supporters. One was an old gray haired man pulled from his car. How about Berkley the riots and damage they caused. Yes I have to say they are a threat and are true terrorist group. When have Proud Boys gone bat S@#T crazy and burned up businesses and caused havoc. NONE TO MY KNOWLEDGE!!
Do not bring up Charlottsvlle this is in the south and I guarantee you KKK and National Socialists are about and will cause trouble. All the conservative Nationalist lovers of this country I know do not accept them as one of us.

lol, no racist , bigot, facist, white nationalist, no antifa. you literally dont hear about them without the previous mentioned. I hear about white nationalist and racist everyday tho. Ive seen the word 'n-word' everyday for the past 20 years. we need people and antifa action to help keep racist in check. they have no history of violence against anyone aside from racist , bigots, facist, white nationalist and the like. make racist scared again

a reply to: CriticalStinker

It's that why every "democrat" representative that is running for POTUS has embraced socialism/communism, because the antifa crowd are only a few?...

originally posted by: ElectricUniverse
a reply to: CriticalStinker

It's that why every "democrat" representative that is running for POTUS has embraced socialism/communism, because the antifa crowd are only a few?...

That is just as tired and hyperbolic is the left claiming Trump is a nazi because some people in Charlottesville had some nazi flags... And I've said that previously in this very thread.

I can think of one democratic presidential runner who is openly democratic socialist. But frankly, the term socialism gets overused.

Who's the commie though?

originally posted by: CriticalStinker

originally posted by: ElectricUniverse
a reply to: CriticalStinker

It's that why every "democrat" representative that is running for POTUS has embraced socialism/communism, because the antifa crowd are only a few?...

That is just as tired and hyperbolic is the left claiming Trump is a nazi because some people in Charlottesville had some nazi flags... And I've said that previously in this very thread.

I can think of one democratic presidential runner who is openly democratic socialist. But frankly, the term socialism gets overused.

Who's the commie though?

We can bring many to the water that is the truth but you only sip.

These people wish to over throw the COTUS. Can we agree on that?

And if we do, we can also agree that is not small potato's?

You seem very close to getting the whole truth. As I see it.

a reply to: Justoneman

I appreciate you seeing that so much man. Often people miss the nuance or the fact I'll give benefit of the doubt to preserve rights.

All I care about is the constitution, rights, and the truth (even if I don't like it).

I strongly disagree and dispise ANTIFA, the same for far right extremist's. But just like comedians, they have an important role. They test the boundaries of rights, and while I disagree with their ideology, I'll defend their rights so that the feds don't encroach on us normal folk.

Fear and hate is what allows the populace to give equity away to those in power who have proven over and over they'll abuse it.

originally posted by: CriticalStinker

That is just as tired and hyperbolic is the left claiming Trump is a nazi because some people in Charlottesville had some nazi flags... And I've said that previously in this very thread.

Except for the fact that the reason why all democrats whom are running for POTUS are embracing socialism is because the majority of the left now embraces socialism.

originally posted by: CriticalStinker
I can think of one democratic presidential runner who is openly democratic socialist. But frankly, the term socialism gets overused.

Who's the commie though?

He can claim to be part of the "unicorns united for socialism" if he wants but Bernie Sanders continues to be a communist like he was for decades.

Bernie Sanders's constitution was taken directly from Stalin's Constitution of the U.S.S.R.
Bernie Sander's Constitution is Equal to Stalin's Constitution of the USSR.

originally posted by: DBCowboy
a reply to: Xcalibur254

...likes to beat up gay Asian reporters.

hey yeah, now that you mention it, can we talk about Ngo?
And how it's come out in the last couple of days that he had a deal with patriot prayer - that if he looks after them they'd look after him - that he hung out with them while they planned violent confrontations against antifa, laughing and joining in with their jokes, and then only turn his camera on once antifa were on the scene and riled up?
And that he took this stance onto Fox to project like antifa are some real scary violent threat, when really it was all selective editing and bias from a lousy grifter and his nationalist thug mates

some reporter hey

looks like some of you are really drinking it up tho, bet the aftertaste of that one is curdling.

and in answer to your question from much earlier in the thread - when is it time to be scared of antifa??
WHEN YR A FASCIST, DAWG

a reply to: ElectricUniverse

I met you half way. But I assume you're branding them socialist because a lot of them are for changing the Healthcare system (in a way I disagree with by the way) is disingenuous. By those terms Teddy Roosevelt would have been socialist.

As for Bernie, communist is still a Longshot if we go off of his campaign platform. I'll even give you he was definitely a sympathizer in his youth, but his platform as it stands is still light socialist programs.

True socialism is when the state commands all economic industry.

originally posted by: CriticalStinker

I met you half way. But I assume you're branding them socialist because a lot of them are for changing the Healthcare system (in a way I disagree with by the way) is disingenuous. By those terms Teddy Roosevelt would have been socialist.

It isn't just the healthcare systems, and whom is being disingenuous is you by claiming they just want to nationalize our healthcare when in fact they want college 100% paid off by the tax payer which your socialist representatives claim "will be free..." They are in favor of increasing minimum wage to $15 an hour which will cause the same problem Obama's 30h/w becoming full time because employers could not afford ACA and paying at the same time full time, and much less overtime, to most employees... They are in favor for abolishing the Electoral College which will cause the U.S. to be ruled with a "majority wins" mentality, or mob rule. When the majority is in complete control, or the government takes complete control claiming it represents the majority, the rights of minority groups such as the Second Amendment can be trampled and banned... They are in favor for globalism to fight climate change and having U.S. tax payers pay trillions of dollars we don't have which will close down millions of jobs, etc, etc... But here you are trying to claim that the policies of your socialists, and one communist representatives is just about "healthcare..."

originally posted by: CriticalStinker
As for Bernie, communist is still a Longshot if we go off of his campaign platform. I'll even give you he was definitely a sympathizer in his youth, but his platform as it stands is still light socialist programs.

True socialism is when the state commands all economic industry.

Every communist regime had/has socialist programs... That's what many of you fail to understand. Not all socialists are communists, but all communists are socialist.

a reply to: CriticalStinker

Let's not forget that your socialist representatives are also running on "let's ban ICE, the Border Patrol," destroying the wall which will open the borders for all including criminals into the U.S. etc...

a reply to: ElectricUniverse

You're assuming I subscribe to the left... I don't. In fact, I've never voted for a Democrat in presidential runs, and only a republican once for that matter (Trump).

I merely try to see things for what they are, and trim hyperbole from my world view.

As I said, I don't agree with how the left views Healthcare, and furthermore, I don't agree with their stance on college. There are ways of accomplishing those things at a minimum level without increasing taxes.

But you're kidding yourself I'd you think you don't already pay for both. The right and left are wrong on their approach because they think lipservice equates to policy.

a reply to: CriticalStinker

You certainly do not. You can claim whatever you want but you are claiming Bernie Sanders is not a communist when his playbook/policies he wants implemented come directly from communism.

You accused me of being disingenuous when in fact it is you who is being disingenuous by claiming they only want to change the healthcare system. If you don't want me calling you out for your false premise then you shouldn't accuse me of what you yourself were doing. You are not/were not "trimming hyperbole" when my statements are true but you want to claim they are exaggerations which points to you trying to defend these insane far leftists/socialists.

The only democrat candidate that still has some common sense but still wants "some socialism" is Tulsa Gabbard. All the others are completely insane and so far left that they can't go any more far left-wing.

originally posted by: Bluntone22
a reply to: The2Billies


Antigua hides behind masks so when they commit assaults and acts of vandalism they will not be held accountable.
That is enough reason for me to never support any antifa cause.

That's it right there. If their cause is so pure and just, why do they need to hide their faces?

left, right. us, them.

We should condemn all #ty behaviour regardless of who is doing it.

But ATS is just like every other site.... and anything involving humans.
Everyone points at the other teams flaws while ignoring their own teams.

It's all bull# at the end of the day.

For every piece of # Antifa member on the left, there's just as many pieces of # on the right.

Time we put all turds in the same bowl and flush them together imho.
Sadly won't happen and around and around and around we shall continue to go.

a reply to: ElectricUniverse

I said some of them have isolated policies that resembles aspects of socialism, but true socialism means something different. I also said I don't agree with said policies. But communism is a huge stretch.

You know those people who cry about hitler being president, claiming there are concentration camps as truth? Your hyperbole is the same as theirs. I call out BS no matter what side it's on if people just want to sell something as fact when in reality it's just juiced up rhetoric.

a reply to: magnetik

lol, no racist , bigot, facist, white nationalist, no antifa. you literally dont hear about them without the previous mentioned. I hear about white nationalist and racist everyday tho. Ive seen the word 'n-word' everyday for the past 20 years. we need people and antifa action to help keep racist in check. they have no history of violence against anyone aside from racist , bigots, facist, white nationalist and the like. make racist scared again

So the job of ANTIFA, as you see it is to be the enforcer to keep undesirables in check?
Just the people you and they think, or rather assume, to be dangerous?
It is ok to be violent and keep in check with violence those liberals/progressives think/assume are dangerous.

A dangerous path to go down my friend.

" First they came for the Communists, and I didn’t speak up, because I wasn’t a Communist. Then they came for the Jews, and I didn’t speak up, because I wasn’t a Jew. Then they came for the Catholics, and I didn’t speak up, because I was a Protestant. Then they came for me, and by that time there was no one left to speak up for me. " a poem written in WWII

Today:


First they came for the racists
and I didn't speak up because I wasn't a racist

Then they came for facists
and I didn't speak up because I wasn't a facist

Then they came for "white" people who love the country
and I didn't speak up because I loathe the country

They they came for Trump voters
and I didn't speak up because I didn't vote for Trump

Then they came for the Jews
and I didn't speak up because I wasn't a Jew

Then they came for the Christians
and I didn't speak up because I wasn't a Christian

Then they came for me,
by that time
there was no one left to speak up for me.


Then they came for me—and there was no one left to speak for me.


Hmmmmmm. Sounds familiar somehow.

a reply to: The2Billies

Whatabout... what about this concept called "mitigation of violence"? Sounds new to you, doesn't it?

First they came for the socialists, and I did not speak out—because I was not a socialist.

Then they came for the trade unionists, and I did not speak out— because I was not a trade unionist.

Then they came for the Jews, and I did not speak out—because I was not a Jew.

Then they came for me—and there was no one left to speak for me.

MARTIN NIEMÖLLER: "FIRST THEY CAME FOR THE SOCIALISTS..."

You are aware that said socialists in this picture would be the Antifa? Well. I don't think you've catched the drift yet.

How many mass shootings has ANTIFA done? What's their body count? I'm sorry but they are a group of pussies. The problem is white supremacy and that's pretty obvious. Calling them terrorist is laughable.

a reply to: CriticalStinker

LOL you are indeed insane, they themselves are talking about implementing socialism, but you want to claim it isn't. You are not calling bs out, you are enjoying swimming in BS. I didn't write that they are all communists, just Bernie Sanders whom has been a lifelong communist. Changing the name to "social democrat," or "democrat socialist" doesn't change the fact he is a communist. There is a huge difference between the idiots whom keep claiming the right are all nazis, which are lies, and the fact that every democrat representative is calling for socialism and want socialist policies implemented.