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a reply to: Tileman
That sounds like an excellent plan. Any volunteers? Lol

a reply to: PokeyJoe

Well he sure bites the devil in his tail..

The Overstock CEO has resigned following his deep state comments.

www.cnbc.com...

originally posted by: FlyingFox
a reply to: LanceCorvette

No, Epstein is not the "accuser", that is the victim.

I stand by my post. He's "gone", and the state has all his evidence. Not good for the other criminals.

It's like witness protection, except he's not going to testify.

The Defence has to present witnesses on their own, not ask the prosecution for them. In this case, nada.

Except they're hitting some backlash from Epsteins lawyers. They are/were trying to say that the accusations against Epstein died with him, and subsequently the accusations against his co-conspirators also died. If anything comes from this I'll be surprised. SDNY is crooked, and itll never change. Nothing will happen to the Clinton's. Nothing will happen to Maxwell. The only thing that might happen is one of the guards getting charge for Epsteins death.

They bage too much money, too much power, too much influence. Saying they're "above the law" is an understatement.

a reply to: PioneerFigureSkating

PFS, I saw this on bbC yesterday but didn't get round to posting it:

Google's DEEPMIND co-founder goes on unplanned leave

originally posted by: RelSciHistItSufi
a reply to: PioneerFigureSkating

PFS, I saw this on bbC yesterday but didn't get round to posting it:

Google's DEEPMIND co-founder goes on unplanned leave

On CNBC, I saw a "headline" that the "inventor" of Google News has returned to the firm after a four-year absence. I wonder if a bit of heat and light is causing a personnel shake-up or two.

Cheers

originally posted by: FlyingFox
a reply to: LanceCorvette

No, Epstein is not the "accuser", that is the victim.

I stand by my post. He's "gone", and the state has all his evidence. Not good for the other criminals.

It's like witness protection, except he's not going to testify.

The Defence has to present witnesses on their own, not ask the prosecution for them. In this case, nada.

I've been a trial lawyer for over 20 years. This just isn't correct. If he's alive and evidence that he created (videos for example, or an informant saying "Epstein told me that Bob was at that party and did ...") is being used to prosecute *a different* defendant, then Epstein is the "accuser" - his evidence is being used to prosecute someone else. The defense is entitled to cross examine - "confront" - Epstein's statements or actions if he's alive.

And the defense is absolutely entitled to know if he's still alive, because there are rules about how evidence is used or if it's even allowed at trial depending on whether a person who either has first-hand knowlede of an event, or who created the non-testimonial evidence, is alive or not.

Next, the defense has *zero* burden to present witnessses. It's always the government's job to prove its case. And what happens if the defense needs Epstein to testify to the defendant's innocence? "No, Bob actually wasn't at that party" but the government has lied and said Epstein is dead? The government can't just keep witnesses from the defense if the defense needs those witnesses.

Last, if he's alive and the government is telling the defense he isn't, that's misconduct that will result in an overturned verdict if the secondary defendants are found guilty, because of the points I made above.

originally posted by: PioneerFigureSkating
a reply to: dashen

Let's hope not. At this point, what could even be done about it?

ETA: Armilus has been described to be bald, partiay deaf, partially maimed, and partially leprous.

And those are his good qualities ! LOL...

IDK Dash, so your instincts are telling you we've been " Punked " ? It's possible, but even if that's the case, would it still not be a kind of divine intervention that a larp, could cause so much interest to Learn about History, past and current, maybe, just maybe, we're not doomed to repeat it into oblivion ?

a reply to: PioneerFigureSkating

Whoa. Will he be suicided next ?

a reply to: PioneerFigureSkating

What the hell?!?!?! WHY??????

a reply to: imthegoat

Unfortunately, as much as I want to say otherwise, I think you are 100% spot on with this. Just more of the same B.S. shoveled down our throats, and we're expected to eat it with a smile, and say "Thank You, may I please have some more?"

a reply to: imthegoat

I just read a Twitter post from Shimon Prokupecz ( @ShimonPro) that states that as many as 20 correctional officers received grand jury subpoenas last Friday.

"Shimon Prokupecz
@ShimonPro
On the Jeffrey Epstein investigation, as many as 20 correctional officers who work at the Metropolitan Correctional Center received grand jury subpoenas this past Friday."

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"Shimon Prokupecz
@ShimonPro
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@ShimonPro
FBI/DOJ very clearly being compelled to use subpoenas for information because employees of the jail have not been cooperative in the investigation."

a reply to: jadedANDcynical

Here's some additional info about 'Teflon Leon ' and Apollo. He's involved in some shady deals with the CA pension funds:

JSTAT's concern of billions of dollars lost to Caesars Entertainment Corp. by California's teachers pensions (California State Teachers' Retirement System or CalSTRS) and public workers (California Public Employees' Retirement System or CalPERS) to private equity fat cats, Apollo Global Management and TPG Capital in 2008. Did you know CalSTRS/CalPERS are major limited partners in the world's largest casino entertainment company? Caesars Entertainment Corporation has managed to lose $10 billion to the detriment of hard working teachers and police officers in California. The taxpayers of California also have a piece of the action by betting on Black. Apollo Management's CEO, "Teflon" Leon Black, raided the pensions through a placement agent (Alfred Villalobos) who collected $60 million from Black's private equity firm Apollo Management. The placement agent wined and dined CalPERS officials to persuade them to invest $600 million for 10% of Apollo Global Management according to so a suit filed in 2010 by California Attorney General Jerry Brown who accused Villalobos of bribing officials with the pension fund. Apollo Management paid for a private jet to transport a CalPERS high ranked official to New York City from Sacramento. The official and Villalobos attended a high society benefit honoring Teflon Leon Black. The CalPERS official pushed through the Apollo Management sale a month later. Caesars Entertainment extended much of its debt obligations to 2015 and required teachers and law enforcement pensions to take a haircut in the process to avoid bankruptcy. The billions lost to Caesars Entertainment won't be known until then or after Caesars Entertainment declares bankruptcy. Who allowed California's teachers and public workers to be owners of the world largest casino?

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a reply to: FlyingFox

and in that regard, I don't think we should dwell on his status or manner of death.

He is now neutralized and we should move along. Keep your eye on the ball.

Epstein victims will get hearing before judge dismisses case

The judge overseeing the child sex trafficking case against Jeffrey Epstein ordered what may be the final hearing following the sex offender’s death, saying lawyers for both sides and any victims deserve a chance to speak.

U.S. District Court Judge Richard Berman set a hearing for next Tuesday, following a motion earlier this week from prosecutors in the Southern District of New York to dismiss the charges against Epstein since he can no longer stand trial after what the New York City medical examiner’s office officially ruled a suicide by hanging in his Manhattan prison cell over a week ago.

www.washingtonexaminer.com...

a reply to: MountainLaurel

"and those are his good qualities."

Yeah, I just tossed that out there so others who may not know, like I did not, what the guy is supposed to look like. Does Trump have those qualities? Dunno.

Also, I don't know that we are necessarily being punked, per se, because they clearly ARE dismantling blackmail systems before our very eyes. I just still keep coming back to, "well, what's next? What's the plan moving forward?"

We haven't hear barely a peep about THAT. We are waiting for these people to destroy the current order of things with literally NO knowledge of what they plan to do moving forward.

I've long thought that we are staring down the barrel of Project Bluebeam. And if that's true, one of their goals will be to introduce a new religious paradigm. It's an absolute must. And I personally don't know if I'm ready to accept Donald Trump as the prophet of this new religion. Maybe I'm way off base and this dude really is God's messenger. That's possible I suppose, but the problem with being a prophet is that unless literally every word that ever comes out of your mouth is 100% truthful, you are a false prophet. Trump, for all the good he is doing currently, is NOT a righteous man, IMO. He has his fair share of shady stuff in his past.

Again, I hope I am wrong, but I would advise caution moving forward if this "Chosen One" rhetoric continues.

a reply to: PioneerFigureSkating

PFS, seems like a situation of "too little, too late". I think the only situation in which Jepstein may have been safe from "unfortunate events" is if he had been held in Gitmo under the supervision and TLC of United States Marines.

His "suicide" represents both a colossal failure on the part of the Bureau of Prisons and a travesty of justice for all of his victims.

Cheers

a reply to: FlyingFox

Except if his manner of death is another cover up, I for one, want truth and transparency. I'm sick to death of being lied to. Especially when they're so blatant about it. They feel impervious

a reply to: F2d5thCav

For the most part I agree. However, and Lance could correct me if I'm wrong, there are some positives in all this through Epstein's "death." Main one being is this opens the door, so to speak, in going after his co-conspirstors because Epstein isn't here to object to evidence being introduced in his case.

So his victims, when they sue his estate, can drop all the relevant names they'd like and nobody can stop that stuff from being introduced.

a reply to: LanceCorvette

Nope. It looks like you are posting the same junk without reassessing what I said. Read it again.

You are saying that no other people who ever met Epstein can be prosecuted....huh? Epistein now the accuser....lol. Get out your law dictionary....

dictionary.thelaw.com...

ACCUSER THELAW.COM LAW DICTIONARY & BLACK'S LAW DICTIONARY 2ND ED. One who makes an accusation. Law Dictionary – Alternative Legal Definition The person by whom an accusation is made.

Nobody said anything about the burden on defence to present witnesses either. All I said is it's not up to the prosecution to find them physically and give the defence access.

Everything I said was predicated on the govt making Epstein disappear. That means nobody can contest A L L of the things you repeated about being "entitled" to know if he's alive or not. It's not about a lecture in ethics, we already know that stuff...

One more time.... Epstein will not be testifying. Epstein might have made a deal for a fake death. Epstein had the goods on lots of people. That evidence is now afoot in the system.

Squawking about mistrials and other breeches of protocol doesn't mean a bag of beans, you are just being contradictory without taking reality into account. Reality = HE NOW CANNOT BE COMPELLED TO TESTIFY, get it? Cui Bono? Who does that benefit?