a reply to: Grambler
The problem is you can see how left wing people will deflect from this
Did you really expect otherwise?
Every post that is apologetic for Antifa in this thread seems to have a couple of talking points in common: either "the other side is just as bad" or
"the guy deserved it." I reject both of those talking points immediately.
"The other side is just as bad" is totally irrelevant, because I'm not advocating anything based on political stance. I'm denouncing violence. So
saying "Proud Boys are just as bad" doesn't hold any water, because I will denounce them just as fast if I see a video of them beating someone up
while the cops watch. People are responsible for their own actions.
I'll point out, again, that the Patriot Prayer people did not strike me as the aggressor in the video that started this; they simply stood their
ground. All I said against them is that it is possible they may have said something or made a gesture to instigate the confrontation. I did not see
one; I simply stated it was possible. If they didn't, then this was an attack instigated solely by Antifa. If they did, they share in the blame.
Either way, Antifa certainly were instigators.
Saying "he deserved it" is downright scary to me. It is extremely easy to decide someone probably "deserved" whatever happened to him. The only way
someone deserves a beating is if they try to give someone a beating, and in that case it's really self-defense. What Ngo deserved was simple human
respect, no more, no less. If he's a shill, then let it be known he's a shill... he won't be able to shill any more, or at least not do any good
trying it. If he shouldn't have been there, then arrest him for trespassing. There is no circumstance outside of throwing a first punch that makes
this statement relevant in any way.
The dangerous part of all this is that these same people who are now defending and apologizing for Antifa may someday be the victim of violence, and
if that happens they might be without any legal recourse. This is literally precedent being written in front of our eyes.
I still remember studying the French Revolution in college. It intrigued me, because I saw so many parallels to today's society in America. Those who
would advocate for this violence should remember something: The French revolution started when a group of people overthrew Louis and Marie, but it
didn't end there. Next a group of other people overthrew the overthrowers, then yet another group overthrew the overthrowers of the overthrowers.
Everyone involved got to know the guillotine real close-up and personal.
The lesson of history: those who would use violence to overthrow others are themselves in danger of being overthrown with violence.