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originally posted by: infolurker
originally posted by: Boadicea
a reply to: infolurker
Thank you for posting -- again.
Every time I think it can't get any worse or any more evil, I find out how wrong I am...
Get Familiar with S.O.G.I.
The Parents are wrong. They are pushing to suspend parental rights to promote it.
This is a war waged against vulnerable children in a captive environment.
originally posted by: continuousThunder
a reply to: IgnoranceIsntBlisss
oh i'm sorry, would you like me to scrape and bow as well? how can i not have addressed your majesty! such a fool i am!
try saying something with any meaning or relevant perspective and i might. no promises.
ETA: i scrolled up and read your last few posts and it was just one long cartoon fart noise? i'm not sure what you expect me to do with that?
originally posted by: kaylaluv
originally posted by: IgnoranceIsntBlisss
a reply to: kaylaluv
Should schools / doctors / media be allowed to attempt to indoctrinate small children into being confused about gender and sexuality?
Should religious fanatics and other hardcore, narrow-minded conservatives be allowed to indoctrinate children into thinking they have to ignore their gender identification if it is not in alignment with their natal sex?
originally posted by: lSkrewloosel
a reply to: Boadicea
If they are adults then do as they please but for sure leave the kids alone. If kids think they are batman thry get ignored if they think they the opposite sex they must pander too . So bad.
originally posted by: violet
Children should not be getting coaxed into questioning their gender. This is not something they can fully understand.
originally posted by: kaylaluv
a reply to: queenofswords
And what if your child has symptoms of depression and anxiety because they are told they have to conform to what gender you insist they be? What if they threaten to self mutilate, or kill themselves? What if they start to withdraw from their friends, and stop participating in school activities or stop showing an interest in anything anymore?
What then? You “lovingly” slap the crap out of them and tell them to snap out of it?
originally posted by: kaylaluv
In today's world, who can say? Now I know, but back then, I was a kid and less sure of things. If someone like a parent or other adult authority figure comes forward and starts pressing, sure that it is something else, how long does a child stand up to that?
More false crap from the right.
originally posted by: kaylaluv
a reply to: IgnoranceIsntBlisss
Yeah, I get it, you don’t trust scientists, doctors, psychiatrists, or any other professionals.
originally posted by: kaylaluv
Hormones are not psychotics meds.
But one of the reasons it's so hard to talk about this is that people put different meanings into these words.
Actually, it is far more likely that the underlying cause of the dysphoria could well be the extremely high levels of endocrine disrupting chemicals in the public food and water supplies.
originally posted by: continuousThunder
a reply to: IgnoranceIsntBlisss
why is 'trans activist' the thing you jump to immediately? that's pretty telling. no, this is just the response of a regular everyday trans woman who's fed up with the way everyone on this site keeps making the same old boring stupid farting noises and then demanding that we take it seriously.
none of you have any understanding of my life
none of you even have any contact with trans people
you know NOTHING and it's got NOTHING to do with you but here you are smugly demanding answers, talking down at me as if you're so smart and not just regurgitating the most basic lies we've been disproving for years
Every point in this damn thread has been disproven
over and over and OVER - on this very hellsite - but no one listens and still you come in like BRRRRRrrrRRRrrrrPPPPTTT ANSWER THAT LIBBY SCUM and it's just so boring.
unless you want me to address your theory about MtV turning kids gay???? in which case????? dude how OLD are you? MtV hasn't even EXISTED in like a decade [you need new talking points!]
originally posted by: tanstaafl
originally posted by: kaylaluv
Hormones are not psychotics meds.
Actually, it is far more likely that the underlying cause of the dysphoria could well be the extremely high levels of endocrine disrupting chemicals in the public food and water supplies.
This is why we only buy/eat locally, naturally and sustainably farmed food and meats, and only drink and bathe in highly purified water (including getting the toxic chemical sodium fluoride out).
How it harms: So you've done your research, thought long and hard about it, and finally decided to get yourself off the pill. Except even when you finally do come off those artificial hormones, you're still taking them, sort of -- via your tap water. Really?! Yes. According to Scientific American, trace amounts of birth control and other medications can be found in the water supply. Pill-taking ladies pee those hormones into the water system, affecting the reproductive systems of fish and eventually us, too. And according to SA, "with such contaminants proving elusive to municipal filtration systems, the burden of protection often lies with the end user."
Endocrine disruptors are chemicals that can interfere with endocrine (or hormone) systems at certain doses. These disruptions can cause cancerous tumors, birth defects, and other developmental disorders.[1] Any system in the body controlled by hormones can be derailed by hormone disruptors. Specifically, endocrine disruptors may be associated with the development of learning disabilities, severe attention deficit disorder, cognitive and brain development problems; deformations of the body (including limbs); breast cancer, prostate cancer, thyroid and other cancers;
sexual development problems such as feminizing of males or masculinizing effects on females, etc
originally posted by: Boadicea
Having caught up with the thread and all the comments now, I have to say that the trans ideologists are not helping their cause with their kneejerk attacks on any criticism or dissenting voices, and especially their refusal to address the very real and very specific problems presented in the OP.
In fact, that is exactly the problem. This tunnel vision that ignores or minimizes or belittles anything that doesn't promote and prop up the trans ideology. No matter who gets hurt. Even the ones they purport to support. Even kids who depend on the adults in their lives to act in their best interests -- both short-term and long-term. We all know that there are risks and dangers with ALL medical procedures and treatments, and that we have to weigh the risks against the benefits, and that we must take reasonable precautions for reasonable risks. Puberty blockers and cross-hormone therapy and surgical procedures are no different.
Lupron isn't a problem because it's used to treat transgender kids... Lupron is a problem no matter what it's used to treat! There is nothing magical about being transgender that changes the risks and harmful side effects of Lupron. In the real world, Lupron does what it does to the body without regard for what gender the brain thinks it is. Lupron does to the body in accordance to the actual sexual organs and systems, not according to what gender one thinks one is or should be.
But rather than discuss these issues -- which are harming people, including kids -- it's all dismissed out of hand for gaslighting rhetoric and name calling. Apparently no risk is too great if it props up the trans ideology. No harm is too severe if it props up the trans ideology. And no opinion is too extreme if it props up the trans ideology.
If we dare dissent or disagree, no mercy!!!
Just like you have to put these kids in a box and slap a label on them -- "transgender" -- you'll put everyone who voices an opposing opinion into a box and slap a label on us -- "transphobe."
Your cards have been overplayed. The emotional blackmail is backfiring. The gaslighting isn't working. The truth is rearing its head.
I'm happy to let people be who and what they are, no chemical or surgical "enhancement" necessary. Let them defy every gender norm they so choose. Let them embrace every gender norm they so choose. Let them be their own awesome selves. Instead of demanding they change -- and harm themselves in the process -- let's change society's gender stereotypes and demands.