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originally posted by: Phrae
The point I'm getting at is unless you are vegan. Every christian defies the first commandment either consciously, subconsciously or by being tricked. My understanding as an ex christian you are all going to hell. Unless you are some weird vegan pacifist. in which case god loves you. sit down and starve to death and he will love you for always. Eat a fish you caught in a creek.. you are the spawn of satan.....
Every moving animal that is alive may serve as food for you. Just as I gave you the green vegetation, I give them all to you.
originally posted by: cooperton
a reply to: and14263
The main point is that prophecy - the prediction of future events with concise accuracy - demonstrates that God exists transcendent and above the confines of time. One example used is the definition of the first 10 names of the Bible (Adam to Noah) combine to form this sentence:
"Man is appointed mortality and sorrow is born! The Glory of God shall come down instructing that His death shall bring those in despair comfort and rest."
Despite being written thousands of years before Jesus, this is a perfect description of Jesus's mission to attenuate the fall of humankind.
I wonder how specific religious material impacts cognitive reasoning? Does it help people recognize and operate freely in this reality or does it hinder, creating confusion and angst by distorting this reality?
originally posted by: Toolman18
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No doubt our existence was created. Not a product of evolution. It's weird to me that this is a subject of debate.
Everything is too perfect. And unexplainable.
I will never take someone seriously if they say God doesn't exist.
I'm aware that's a harsh statement. But it's true.
You're an idiot if you don't accept this because all of you know its true. You chose to ignore it because it's hard.
But we all will die. And will have to give account of our lives. No excuses in front of the Creator.
And that's it. Live to give praise to the creator and his children.
originally posted by: Toolman18
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No doubt our existence was created. Not a product of evolution. It's weird to me that this is a subject of debate.
Everything is too perfect. And unexplainable.
I will never take someone seriously if they say God doesn't exist.
I'm aware that's a harsh statement. But it's true.
You're an idiot if you don't accept this because all of you know its true. You chose to ignore it because it's hard.
But we all will die. And will have to give account of our lives. No excuses in front of the Creator.
And that's it. Live to give praise to the creator and his children.
originally posted by: narrator
originally posted by: Toolman18
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No doubt our existence was created. Not a product of evolution. It's weird to me that this is a subject of debate.
Everything is too perfect. And unexplainable.
I will never take someone seriously if they say God doesn't exist.
I'm aware that's a harsh statement. But it's true.
You're an idiot if you don't accept this because all of you know its true. You chose to ignore it because it's hard.
But we all will die. And will have to give account of our lives. No excuses in front of the Creator.
And that's it. Live to give praise to the creator and his children.
Nothing is perfect, and a lot of things are explainable.
To flip it on you, I'll never take someone seriously if they say that the Bible is 100% true and god 100% exists. I've seen zero proof of a god, any god. Why should I believe in something I've never seen any proof of?
Yes, we will all die. Whether or not there is a creator. If there is one, and it actually judges people when they die, I would hope that it judges people based on whether or not they did good things and were a nice person, rather than whether or not they believed in the creator.
Sounds kind of like a psychopath to me: "I created you, and will give you zero definitive proof of said creation, but you must believe in me without proof or you will burn in hell for eternity, whether or not you were a good person. Or, in some case, have never even heard of me (African tribes, etc)."
If that is the actual case of the creator, I'd rather not put my faith in them, and would never submit to them. Let me burn, I won't worship a sociopath.
In my opinion though, that'll never happen, because a creator doesn't exist. Unless you want to call nature "the creator".
originally posted by: narrator
I've seen zero proof of a god, any god. Why should I believe in something I've never seen any proof of?
Melisa: But surely no one would choose that if they knew you really existed?
Jesus: Not so, nobody goes into hell blindfolded. In one way or another, I've revealed myself to everyone.
Melisa: But if they could just see you...
Jesus: Not even that would be enough. Look at satan, he stood before me in the very throne room of God. But he thought the beauty and the power bestowed was somehow earned. Gave himself over to pride. Scratch any sin and just below the surface you'll find pride...
Jesus: "I'm a gentleman Nick, I'll never force myself on you or anyone. Nick, what would be more unjust and unfair, for me to steal you at the moment of your death and force you to live in my presence and in my will for all eternity. Hell on the other hand is a place where you'll be completely free from all of my "though shalt nots"... FOREVER."
Source: The Encounter
As to those who live in tribes without God’s Word, God has revealed Himself in the hearts of all men. Through general revelation, man can sense God’s existence and see His power. www.tillhecomes.org...
originally posted by: 547000
If you don't try to find God yourself you will not believe the people who have found God as having valid reasons in believing. In your mind you'll rationalize it as "a crutch" or "delusions". Also you won't find God unless your pride has been sucked out of you and turn to Him. I certainly know that when I was an atheist I always asked such things and debated theists not because I truly wanted to find Him, but had other not so noble or intellectually honest reasons. God is near the broken-hearted, or so scriptures say, and from my experiences that is true. It wasn't until I found Him I realized how utterly fallible human wisdom is.
originally posted by: narrator
a reply to: Xenogears
In that instance, wouldn't man be god? Since we're the ones doing the manipulation?
“Jesus said: ‘I AM the truth’, truth is not a teaching, truth is a person…” ~ Jan Sjoerd Pasterkamp
“I am the way, the TRUTH, and the life. No one comes to the Father except through Me.” ~ John 14:6
"The Truth is heavy, therefore few care to carry it" ~ Winston Churchill