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Mueller team deleted all of Strzoks texts

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posted on Dec, 15 2018 @ 11:28 PM
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It appears that Meuller is covering up some higher up involvement in the leaks, someone else is involved. They should never have deleted anything if there was an investigation going on. Cover up way up the ladder. Meullers team should be taken off this investigation for negligence and destroying evidence.




posted on Dec, 16 2018 @ 01:37 AM
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a reply to: Grambler



You get that?


Do you? This issue isn't about Mueller or the IG. It's about Congress wanting the docs from the FBI, and the FBI can't find them.


Inspector General Michael Horowitz told lawmakers in a letter Thursday that messages sent between FBI officials Peter Strzok and Lisa Page from December 2016 to May 2017 were recovered using forensic tools after the Justice Department initially said they were among many emails on FBI-issued mobile devices that were lost due to a technical problem.
www.bloomberg.com...

No worries! The IG has them. So, what's the problem, again?

Again, according to Horowitz:

In gathering evidence for the OIG's ongoing 2016 election review, we requested, consistent with standard practice, that the FBI produce text messages from the FBI-issued phones of certain FBI employees involved in the Clinton email investigation based on search terms we provided. After finding a number of politically-oriented text messages between Page and Strzok, the OIG sought from the FBI all text messages between Strzok and Page from their FBI-issued phones through November 30, 2016, which covered the entire period of the Clinton e-mail server investigation. The FBI produced these text messages on July 20, 2017. Following our review of those text messages, the OIG expanded our request to the FBI to include all text messages between Strzok and Page from November 30, 2016, through the date of the document request, which was July 28, 2017. The OIG received these additional messages on August 10, 2017.



DOJ Inspector General Michael Horowitz wrote in the report that his office initiated this investigation into the lost text messages “upon being notified of a gap in text message data collection during the period December 15, 2016 through May 17, 2017.


Note the time period, being before Mueller was appointed, after the Clinton email investigation.



Those phones were wiped clean by muellers team and the IG got no texts from them


Not true. If it was, how did this happen?


"The OIG forensically recovered thousands of text messages from FBI mobile devices issued to Strzok and Page through its multiple extraction efforts. Approximately 9,311 text messages were recovered from Strzok's S5 [Samsung]," the report states. "Approximately 10,760 text messages were recovered from Page's S5."
townhall.com...



And muellers team intentionally deleted texts they knew the IG would want to look at


The question is, when did the IG become aware of the FBI glitch?


The OIG expanded our request to the FBI to include ALL text messages between Strzok and Page from November 30, 2016, through the date of the document request, which was July 28, 2017.
The OIG received these additional messages on August 10, 2017.
themarketswork.com...

Looks like the OIG knew about the glitch in July 2017, and had the data by August 2017.

The IG already had all the texts. The "gap period" was between Dec 2016 and May 2017. Mueller was appointed May 17, 2017, after the FBI glitch. I doubt Mueller even knew about it.




In conclusion, you are wrong, as has been shown to you over and over


In conclusion, you're nuts! Mueller had nothing to do with the FBI gap period, that caused an archiving glitch. It all happened before he was appointed. The IG already had nearly 20,000 texts between Page and Strzok, including the highly public critical ones, so erasing the phones, months after the agents were gone from their post, was not a big deal. In in fact, it's SOP.



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posted on Dec, 16 2018 @ 06:10 AM
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a reply to: Sookiechacha
where does IG say they have all the text messagess?

think only some of the text messages were recovered, not all


You really buy the glitch story?





January 26, 2018
Justice Department Inspector General Michael Horowitz says his office has recovered some missing FBI texts that received considerable attention because they came from two FBI employees who briefly worked on the Russia influence investigation.

"Congress has some of them, but thousands appear to be missing — not just the messages from Page and Strzok, who both worked for a time on the Russia investigation, but also other people.

"The inspector general is telling Congress that it seems to have recovered some of those missing texts involving Page and Strzok. And the FBI says there's an innocent explanation. It was a technical glitch when the bureau was moving from one version of a cellphone to another."
www.npr.org...

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posted on Dec, 16 2018 @ 06:19 AM
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a reply to: Grambler

It's a good thing that text messages are forever. They should subpoena them now and see what Mueller was hiding.
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posted on Dec, 16 2018 @ 06:22 AM
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a reply to: Sookiechacha

This is from YOUR source ...


The Department of Justice inspector general released a report Thursday revealing that thousands of text messages sent by fired FBI agent Peter Strzok and former FBI attorney Lisa Page were not preserved



posted on Dec, 16 2018 @ 06:25 AM
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originally posted by: Sookiechacha
a reply to: JinMI


SO? The phone records and data are on the FBI server. They recovered all the missing texts and more.


Except they are not. There is missing data. This is why you do not destroy the original unless you are stupid or trying to cover something up.



posted on Dec, 16 2018 @ 06:44 AM
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originally posted by: OccamsRazor04

originally posted by: Sookiechacha
a reply to: JinMI


SO? The phone records and data are on the FBI server. They recovered all the missing texts and more.


Except they are not. There is missing data. This is why you do not destroy the original unless you are stupid or trying to cover something up.


Indeed. Bottom line to the whole mess is that SCM's team knew the OIG wanted these messages and they deleted them anyway. Even went as far as playing the whole "gee we cant find her phone.....wait, here it is, but sorry every scrap of data you wanted from it has been deleted, so sorry!". This is obstruction, plain and simple.

Also, it is telling that this thread has been up for quite a while and only one person has tried to to defend it, albeit very poorly.



posted on Dec, 16 2018 @ 06:55 AM
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originally posted by: Sookiechacha
a reply to: Grambler


Just because the text messages in question have been deleted from the phones, that doesn't mean that there is no record of them elsewhere. They should still exist on the server, and perhaps in some IG file, somewhere too.



Considering the fact that congress has had and been selectively leaking texts i dont think the phones are the only place those texts where held.



posted on Dec, 16 2018 @ 07:06 AM
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a reply to: Pyle

They have some texts = / = they have all the texts.



posted on Dec, 16 2018 @ 07:11 AM
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You can call you phone company and get a transcript of all text messages.

These conversations are saved somewhere.

Seems like the FBI has a horrible track record of preserving emails.

They dont have a recently deleted section?

FBI issued phones should have their info saved at a Separate location.


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posted on Dec, 16 2018 @ 07:40 AM
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a reply to: Sookiechacha

Hahahahahahhaha!!!!

I literally posted the IG report from Thursday and you still won’t read it

The fbi glitch is the Samsung galaxy phones and has nothing to do with the iPhones that were given to strzok and page from muellers team

There was no recoverable data from the iPhones because muellers team wiped those phones

You keep posting info saying the IG has the texts from the fbi glitch

Ok no one is disputing that. That was from the fbi issued Samsung galaxy phones

There were mueller issued iPhones that the IG attempted to get texts from, but both strzok and pages were wiped clean

Now you will post another article saying the IG got the texts from the galaxies that had the glitch, and that is still not responding to the iPhones mueller issued

I posted the actual document on the last page

Either you are severally confused or you are intentionally trying to mislead people because you are for this corruption



posted on Dec, 16 2018 @ 07:43 AM
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originally posted by: Bloodworth
You can call you phone company and get a transcript of all text messages.

These conversations are saved somewhere.

Seems like the FBI has a horrible track record of preserving emails.

They dont have a recently deleted section?

FBI issued phones should have their info saved at a Separate location.


They do

The problem is the mueller team does not save the phones info like the fbi

And it is the phones from muellers team that the IG can not get the info from



posted on Dec, 16 2018 @ 07:45 AM
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originally posted by: Pyle

originally posted by: Sookiechacha
a reply to: Grambler


Just because the text messages in question have been deleted from the phones, that doesn't mean that there is no record of them elsewhere. They should still exist on the server, and perhaps in some IG file, somewhere too.



Considering the fact that congress has had and been selectively leaking texts i dont think the phones are the only place those texts where held.


Congress has shown texts from the fbi phones

Show me one text leaked from strzoks mueller issued iPhone

You will have a hard time doing so, because there have been none

That is because muellers team wiped those phones clean and no one has been able to recover those texts
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posted on Dec, 16 2018 @ 07:53 AM
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a reply to: Breakthestreak




there is ZERO evidence of any crime or ‘collusion’ whatsoever on the part of the President. That’s gotta hurt.


I think you are very very wrong.



posted on Dec, 16 2018 @ 07:54 AM
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a reply to: Sillyolme

Well you are welcome to source evidence of criminal 'collusion' and what the exact crime is.



posted on Dec, 16 2018 @ 07:57 AM
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a reply to: Sookiechacha

Shhhhh. Nothing like common sense is allowed in these threads.
Stop it right now.

and the other thing is this is the conservative treehouse and everything they print should be taken with a barrel of salt.
They probably got the whole thing wrong.



posted on Dec, 16 2018 @ 07:59 AM
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a reply to: Sillyolme

Yes, common sense = making claims and refusing to provide sources or evidence.



posted on Dec, 16 2018 @ 07:59 AM
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originally posted by: Sillyolme
a reply to: Sookiechacha

Shhhhh. Nothing like common sense is allowed in these threads.
Stop it right now.

and the other thing is this is the conservative treehouse and everything they print should be taken with a barrel of salt.
They probably got the whole thing wrong.


I posted the actual IG document from the .gov source

The fact that you think that poster is right when they are so clearly wrong speaks to just how much your ideology will allow you to deny reality



posted on Dec, 16 2018 @ 08:00 AM
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a reply to: OccamsRazor04

ha ha yeah Im not on the investigative team. But nice try. How stupid is it to ask for evidence you know I do not have and then pretend that because I dont have it it doesn't exist. I've seen the same weak ass argument over and over and its just dumb. But it works for your logic right? LOL



posted on Dec, 16 2018 @ 08:02 AM
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a reply to: OccamsRazor04

Already addressed. How many times do you need to be told?

Common sense would have you knowing that I dont have the evidence and then dumb would be you asking me for it like it proves something.




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