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Mueller team deleted all of Strzoks texts

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posted on Dec, 15 2018 @ 09:04 PM
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originally posted by: Sookiechacha
a reply to: JinMI


SO? The phone records and data are on the FBI server. They recovered all the missing texts and more.



Rather than using your months old article, how about something a little more recent.

J ustice Dept IG blames FBI-wide software failure for missing Strzok-Page messages


The DOJ's Inspector General (IG) said that, with help from the Department of Defense, it was able to uncover thousands of missing text messages written by Strzok and Page and sent using their FBI-issued Samsung phones from December 15, 2016 through May 17, 2017, "as well as hundreds of other text messages outside the gap time period that had not been produced by the FBI due to technical problems with its text message collection tool."




posted on Dec, 15 2018 @ 09:07 PM
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a reply to: 3NL1GHT3N3D1

Saying power will always corrupt is different than saying anything that ever happens is controlled by the current people in power

It’s the difference between a religious person saying evil will always exist

Vs saying the fact that Trump won proves their god exists

Then if the results were overturned saying the fact trump lost proves their god exist

The first is reasonable

The second is zealotry



posted on Dec, 15 2018 @ 09:09 PM
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a reply to: JinMI

According to that postoers logic, why does the fbi ever subpoena any evidence

That have access to everything, even if it’s wiped clean

So why go through the extra step do subpoenaing?



posted on Dec, 15 2018 @ 09:13 PM
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a reply to: Grambler

All I know is that Trump is a wolf in sheep's clothing. The narrative is being controlled by those in power, it's obvious to pretty much anyone without a dog in the race. They are directing the show and Trump is their main character. Outside of that, I have no idea what would be there case if the results were different I just go on what is happening. I make no claim about what "would" happen, only about what has happened.



posted on Dec, 15 2018 @ 09:13 PM
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a reply to: Grambler

And why did Hillary Clinton literally smash cell phones with a hammer? (Which that poster openly thinks is perfectly acceptable to do with subpoenaed evidence)



posted on Dec, 15 2018 @ 09:17 PM
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originally posted by: Grambler
a reply to: Sookiechacha

So your own source says it’s unknown how many of the original were recovered



" Approximately 9,311 text messages were recovered from Strzok’s S5 (Samsung),” while, “Approximately 10,760 text messages were recovered from Page’s S5."


And as their article in the op says, muellers team is claiming the IG can’t get the texts because they have been wiped


Your source is incorrect. The IG, Howowitze, claims to have recovered all of the "missing texts" and more.


….DOJ’s Inspector General, Michael Horowitz – who claimed his office received the texts in question between FBI employees Peter Strzok and his mistress Lisa Page last August.
www.theburningplatform.com...


I don't know what to tell ya, other than to stop worrying. The guys who need to have the text messages, have them. They're not lost.

Sleep well tonight!



posted on Dec, 15 2018 @ 09:23 PM
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a reply to: JinMI


What's your point? Your, more recent, article says the same thing. The texts have been recovered, they're not lost.

Yes, the FBI experienced a "glitch". The DOJ and DOD fixed the problem and were able to recover the texts.

Yeah! Sleep well tonight!

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posted on Dec, 15 2018 @ 09:30 PM
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a reply to: Sookiechacha

Ahh man

Again, you are referencing the phones that were given to strzok and page by the fbi

The fbi lost some of those texts via a glitch, and most of those were recovered

That is what you articles are referencing

No texts have been divulged from the time period of strzok joining muellers team

Strzok was given an iPhone when he joined muellers team

Muellers team took that iPhone back when strzok was fires, checked the phone, said there was no relevant material, and restored it to factory

The IG is saying they have not received any of the texts from that phone or time period

Muellers team purposefully deleted the info on these phones, knowing full wel stzroks personal texts were under review by the IG, and his professional texts would have been subject to review as well

You have no evidence saying this is not the case, as opposed to the article I list which shows both muellers team and the IG saying the text on the phone strzok was using during his time on muellers team was deleted



posted on Dec, 15 2018 @ 09:35 PM
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a reply to: 3NL1GHT3N3D1
I had a long post laid out but I will just say this

I enjoy reading your posts


edit on 15-12-2018 by Grambler because: (no reason given)



posted on Dec, 15 2018 @ 09:47 PM
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I see the argument is to be that "hey, they have these already, who cares if they destroyed evidence?"...........some defense of obstruction of justice by our esteemed "Special" Counsel. cant help but wonder how this defense would work to some if Trump tried to use it?



posted on Dec, 15 2018 @ 09:50 PM
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originally posted by: annoyedpharmacist
I see the argument is to be that "hey, they have these already, who cares if they destroyed evidence?"...........some defense of obstruction of justice by our esteemed "Special" Counsel. cant help but wonder how this defense would work to some if Trump tried to use it?


Exactly

The defense made for this type of corruption is astounding

Imagine trump smashing subpoenaed evidence or bleach bitting it

The very same people that are saying it’s cool for Hillary or mueller to do that would be screaming for trump to be imprisoned

We know that, and they know that

But the charade continues as they pretend this corruption is ok cause they hate trump



posted on Dec, 15 2018 @ 09:59 PM
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“We know that and they know that”

Truer words never spoken



posted on Dec, 15 2018 @ 10:09 PM
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a reply to: Grambler

If the DOJ doesn't investigate the growing number of dirty deeds/crime allegations against the Special Counsel, Republicans (who control the DOJ/White House/Senate/House for now/SCOTUS) are to blame. Plain and simple.



posted on Dec, 15 2018 @ 10:19 PM
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a reply to: Grambler




The IG is saying they have not received any of the texts from that phone or time period


Wrong. IG Horowitz says he has had them since August 2017.

From Inspector General Horowitz’s letter, dated December 13, 2017



In gathering evidence for the OIG’s ongoing 2016 election review, we requested, consistent with standard practice, that the FBI produce text messages from the FBI-issued phones of certain FBI employees involved in the Clinton e-mail investigation based on search terms we provided. After finding a number of politically-oriented text messages between Page and Strzok, the OIG sought from the FBI all text messages between Strzok and Page from their FBI-issued phones through November 30, 2016, which covered the entire period of the Clinton e-mail server investigation. The FBI produced these text messages on July 20, 2017. Following our review of those text messages, the OIG expanded our request to the FBI to include all text messages between Strzok and Page from November 30, 2016, through the date of the document request, which was July 28, 2017. The OIG received these additional messages on August 10, 2017.


www.judiciary.senate.gov...



Muellers team purposefully deleted the info on these phones, knowing full wel stzroks personal texts were under review by the IG, and his professional texts would have been subject to review as well



LOL Okay!

That's quite a paranoid imagination you've got there! You should look to work for Trump!



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posted on Dec, 15 2018 @ 10:22 PM
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a reply to: Sookiechacha

I don’t know how to explain this to you more clearly

That article is the IG saying he has texts from strzoks phone before he was in muellers team

Strzok received a different phone from mueller when he joined that team

The article from the op is both the IG and muellers team saying the IG did not get any of those texts because muellers team deleted that data off of those phones



posted on Dec, 15 2018 @ 10:32 PM
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a reply to: Grambler


From IG Horowitz' Dec. 2017 letter,

The Hatch Act, and its associated regulations, identify authorized and prohibited political activities for most executive department employees, including FBI employees. The Hatch Act permits expressions of personal opinions about candidates and issues. In contrast, political activity, which is defined as "activity directed toward the success or failure ofa political party, candidate for partisan political office, or partisan political group" is prohibited in certain contexts. We are cognizant of these issues and will determine whether there is a basis to refer the allegations, along with relevant evidence we have gathered, regarding Page's and Strzok's text messages to the Office of Special Counsel upon completion of our review.



Strzok began working for Mueller's team in July of 2017. He was removed in Dec. 2017.

I don't know how to make it more clear to you, Horowitz has had the texts since August of 2017. If the FBI lost them after that, it wouldn't affect the IG's investigation.



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posted on Dec, 15 2018 @ 10:36 PM
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a reply to: Sookiechacha

No strzok was fired from the special counsel in August 2017

He started in June 2017

The IG office put a letter out THIS WEEK saying that they were told by muellers team that the phones muellers team have to strzok was looked at by muellers team, and was wiped clean

You keep posting IG comments discussing strzoks different phone, his fbi phone

How can I make this any clearer?

Did you read the article in the op

Are you claiming the IG is now lying, or that the IG office never released this letter this week?

For one so quick to make jabs at me, you certainly look foolish continually being wrong about this
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posted on Dec, 15 2018 @ 10:43 PM
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a reply to: Sookiechacha

From the actual .gov release of the IG this week, December 2018


OIG asked the FBI Inspection Division to locate the FBI issued Samsung Galaxy S5 devices formerly assigned to the subject employees and to obtain from the same individuals their assigned FBI issued Samsung Galaxy S7 devices. The FBI provided these four devices to the OIG in late January 2018. CYBER utilized digital forensic tools to obtain data extractions from the four FBI issued mobile devices.
To ensure the thoroughness o f text message recovery efforts, OIG also consulted with the Department o f Defense, conducted additional quality assurance steps and hired a Subject Matter Expert. The result ofthese steps was the recovery o f thousands o f text messages within the period o f the missing text messages, December 15, 2016 through May 17, 2017, as well as hundreds ofother text messages outside the gap lime period that had not been produced by the FBI due to technical problems with its text message collection
tool.

oig.justice.gov...

Ok

This says what your articles are basically saying

The IG requested and got texts from strzok and pages fbi phones

They were Samsung galaxy 5s

Now continued next post

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posted on Dec, 15 2018 @ 10:45 PM
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lol @ the A-holes defending govt hacks hahaha


oh yeah you're not partisan at all... or hacky


bwhahahaa.



posted on Dec, 15 2018 @ 10:50 PM
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a reply to: Sookiechacha

Same source, very next paragraphs


In view ofthe content ofmany ofthe text messages between Strzok and Page, the OIG also asked the Special Counsel's Office (SCO) to provide to the OIG the DOJ issued iPhones that had been assigned to Strzok and Page during their respective assignments to the SCO. Stnok and Page had each returned their OJ-issued iPhones six months earlier when their assignments to the SCO had ended. The 010 was told that the DOJ issued iPhone previously assigned to Strzok had been re-issued to another FBI agent following Strzok's departure from the SCO. The SCO obtained the iPhone from that individual and provided it to the 010. CYBER obtained a forensic extraction ofthe iPhone previously assigned to Strzok; however. this iPhone had been reset to factory settings and was reconfigured for the new user to whom the device was issued. It did not contain data related to Strzok's use ofthe device. SCO's Records Officer told the 010 that as part ofthe office's records retention procedure, the officer reviewed Strzok's DOJ ssued iPhone after he returned it to the SCO and determined it contained no substantive text messages


You get that?

The IG also asked for the iPhones, (separate from the Samsung’s your articles are discussing) which were given to strzok and page by muellers team

Those phones were wiped clean by muellers team and the IG got no texts from them

The next paragraphs shows how that happened with pages phone as well

In addition, it explains unlike the fbi that has a backup of texts, muellers team did not

In conclusion, you are wrong, as has been shown to you over and over

And muellers team intentionally deleted texts they knew the IG would want to look at




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