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originally posted by: Cassi3l
a reply to: dragonridr
And as for Russia its not illegal for them to assist in a presidential election.
It is indeed highly illegal for a compaign team to accept outside help from a foreign entity
Go look it up, educate yourself, then come back with something better ...
originally posted by: dragonridr
a reply to: Cassi3l
Im guessing you dont know this but neither of those things are a crime. Trump can put as much money as he wants into his campaign.
And as for Russia its not illegal for them to assist in a presidential election. The only thing that would be illegal is if they recieved something for doing so. So Unless Trump pays Putin in some way its not a crime.
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Is a $50 million penthouse suite for Putin a type of payment?
[quote]And im willing to bet no money has been transferred from Trump to Putin. Because that would have came out by now
originally posted by: Cassi3l
a reply to: dragonridr
And as for Russia its not illegal for them to assist in a presidential election.
It is indeed highly illegal for a compaign team to accept outside help from a foreign entity
Go look it up, educate yourself, then come back with something better ...
Simpson had spent a good chunk of his career as a journalist investigating the Clintons. In 1996, Simpson broke big stories about the flood of foreign money from China, Indonesia, and elsewhere that poured into Democratic Party coffers to boost Bill Clinton’s re-election campaign. In his first front-page piece on the subject, Simpson and co-author Jill Abramson wrote that the Asian cash flow highlights “a subject that doesn’t get much discussion: How foreign influence seeps into the American political system”.
More recently, Fusion GPS had tracked wealthy foreign donors who had pumped money into the Clinton Foundation in what looked to Simpson to be an effort to influence and win favours from Clinton’s State Department.
originally posted by: UKTruth
a reply to: chr0naut
There is no limit on a candidates personal funds. Even if the funds spent in this case could be said to have had an impact on the election, a candidate is allowed to spend funds on private matters as long as there is a valid private reason for the expenditure, REGARDLESS of any election impact.
There is nothing illegal about a foreign power getting involved in the election - the 'investigation' is to determine whether Russia interfered and committed illegal acts to influence the election. There is no evidence, or even much discussion anymore, on any coordination to influence the election between Trump and Moscow.
Perhaps you should be more concerned that the SC itself is invalid and was set up against the written legal code for the appointment of a special counsel. That doesn't seem to bother you at all.
It seems that liberals just keep trying to make up crimes - anything will do.
§ 600.1 Grounds for appointing a Special Counsel.
The Attorney General, or in cases in which the Attorney General is recused, the Acting Attorney General, will appoint a Special Counsel when he or she determines that criminal investigation of a person or matter is warranted and - (a) That investigation or prosecution of that person or matter by a United States Attorney's Office or litigating Division of the Department of Justice would present a conflict of interest for the Department or other extraordinary circumstances; and (b) That under the circumstances, it would be in the public interest to appoint an outside Special Counsel to assume responsibility for the matter.
“In my capacity as acting attorney general I determined that it is in the public interest for me to exercise my authority and appoint a special counsel to assume responsibility for this matter,’’ Rosenstein said in a statement. “My decision is not a finding that crimes have been committed or that any prosecution is warranted. I have made no such determination. What I have determined is that based upon the unique circumstances the public interest requires me to place this investigation under the authority of a person who exercises a degree of independence from the normal chain of command.”
originally posted by: UKTruth
a reply to: chr0naut
1) We are talking about personal funds. Campaign finances were not used.
2) It is not illegal for one state to influence another states elections. News media form all over the world offer opinions on their preferred candidate and broadcast right into the US. It's illegal to financially contribute or break specific laws. There is no evidence of any money being passed to the campaign from Moscow or any other countries govt. and no evidence that the campaign worked with a foreign govt to help them break any laws.
3) The SC is illegal according to the statute. That is not Trump's claim - it is a fact. The actual statute says clearly that a crime has to have been committed in order for a SC to be appointed. Rod Rosenstein made it 100% clear when he set up the SC that there was no crime that had been determined. That is cut and dried and part of the historical record. Like I said, you seem not to care about the actual laws on the books when it suits.
4) 'pervert' the course of justice'??? I'd say that the orders of magnitude greater number of false accusations by the media and the uninformed masses, of which you are clearly part, do far more damage to the course of justice.
You can continue as long as you like trying to justify the ridiculous accusations of Russian collusion and make up crimes to your hearts content. However, bluster and uniformed ramblings do not constitute evidence.
originally posted by: UKTruth
a reply to: chr0naut
Perhaps you could shortcut the discussion by listing the crimes Trump has committed and pay particular attention to listing the crimes related to collusion with Russia to influence the election - put those at the top as they would be the most pertinent in your list.