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originally posted by: burdman30ott6
a reply to: BlackJackal
Paying someone hush money, so long as it is not paying them to keep them quiet about a crime, is not a crime. Adultery is no longer a crime, so while I am very sure a number of people wish a crime had taken place here, none did. Covering up something prior to an election... also not a crime.
originally posted by: timequake
a reply to: highvein
I believe that they are trying to get Trump on campaign finance violations. They are going to say that he didn't report the "hush money" to the FEC and therefore, he violated campaign finance rules.
originally posted by: Lumenari
originally posted by: chr0naut
originally posted by: scraedtosleep
a reply to: BlackJackal
Can you link to the actual law that was broken?
Cohen was indicted on eight charges. This is a sentencing memo - guidelines on the sentencing decision.
If you want to know the laws broken, refer to the charge sheet.
So Cohen is Trump now?
Because the OP states that Trump committed a felony.
Keep up.
originally posted by: carewemust
a reply to: BlackJackal
This same subject was "hot breaking news" when Cohen was indicted several months ago. Big nothing-burger. (again)
originally posted by: highvein
Which campaign finance rule? And did the money come from his campaign fund?
originally posted by: timequake
a reply to: highvein
I believe that they are trying to get Trump on campaign finance violations. They are going to say that he didn't report the "hush money" to the FEC and therefore, he violated campaign finance rules.
originally posted by: JinMI
originally posted by: chr0naut
originally posted by: JinMI
a reply to: chr0naut
Via Cohen.
Think that witness is credible?
Well, he did confess to lying, so, there's that.
However court cases are built on more than testimony. You cannot charge someone with a crime without evidence that a crime has been committed and that they were the perp.
Taken with a now substantial body of other incriminating evidence, e-mails, legal documents, financial accounts and that from other sources, I would have to say that it is extremely likely that Cohen was telling the truth in this particular case .
First, what law are we talking about here. What action violated the statute?
What evidence is there to support it?
originally posted by: chr0naut
originally posted by: JinMI
originally posted by: chr0naut
originally posted by: JinMI
a reply to: chr0naut
Via Cohen.
Think that witness is credible?
Well, he did confess to lying, so, there's that.
However court cases are built on more than testimony. You cannot charge someone with a crime without evidence that a crime has been committed and that they were the perp.
Taken with a now substantial body of other incriminating evidence, e-mails, legal documents, financial accounts and that from other sources, I would have to say that it is extremely likely that Cohen was telling the truth in this particular case .
First, what law are we talking about here. What action violated the statute?
What evidence is there to support it?
The court already did all that, for all upheld charges.
They cannot charge someone with a crime that does not exist and without evidence beyond a reasonable doubt.
originally posted by: annoyedpharmacist
originally posted by: chr0naut
originally posted by: JinMI
originally posted by: chr0naut
originally posted by: JinMI
a reply to: chr0naut
Via Cohen.
Think that witness is credible?
Well, he did confess to lying, so, there's that.
However court cases are built on more than testimony. You cannot charge someone with a crime without evidence that a crime has been committed and that they were the perp.
Taken with a now substantial body of other incriminating evidence, e-mails, legal documents, financial accounts and that from other sources, I would have to say that it is extremely likely that Cohen was telling the truth in this particular case .
First, what law are we talking about here. What action violated the statute?
What evidence is there to support it?
The court already did all that, for all upheld charges.
They cannot charge someone with a crime that does not exist and without evidence beyond a reasonable doubt.
you can charge someone with a crime without evidence beyond a reasonable doubt. it happens all the time and leads juries to find people innocent when the prosecution does not prove their case.
originally posted by: chr0naut
originally posted by: annoyedpharmacist
originally posted by: chr0naut
originally posted by: JinMI
originally posted by: chr0naut
originally posted by: JinMI
a reply to: chr0naut
Via Cohen.
Think that witness is credible?
Well, he did confess to lying, so, there's that.
However court cases are built on more than testimony. You cannot charge someone with a crime without evidence that a crime has been committed and that they were the perp.
Taken with a now substantial body of other incriminating evidence, e-mails, legal documents, financial accounts and that from other sources, I would have to say that it is extremely likely that Cohen was telling the truth in this particular case .
First, what law are we talking about here. What action violated the statute?
What evidence is there to support it?
The court already did all that, for all upheld charges.
They cannot charge someone with a crime that does not exist and without evidence beyond a reasonable doubt.
you can charge someone with a crime without evidence beyond a reasonable doubt. it happens all the time and leads juries to find people innocent when the prosecution does not prove their case.
Sorry, changed it to: "you cannot convict someone of a crime"
originally posted by: chr0naut
originally posted by: burdman30ott6
a reply to: BlackJackal
Paying someone hush money, so long as it is not paying them to keep them quiet about a crime, is not a crime. Adultery is no longer a crime, so while I am very sure a number of people wish a crime had taken place here, none did. Covering up something prior to an election... also not a crime.
Cohen was convicted on eight charges, not just this one.
The crime was appropriating campaign funds to pay the hush money, not that it was hush money.
originally posted by: AndyFromMichigan
originally posted by: chr0naut
originally posted by: burdman30ott6
a reply to: BlackJackal
Paying someone hush money, so long as it is not paying them to keep them quiet about a crime, is not a crime. Adultery is no longer a crime, so while I am very sure a number of people wish a crime had taken place here, none did. Covering up something prior to an election... also not a crime.
Cohen was convicted on eight charges, not just this one.
The crime was appropriating campaign funds to pay the hush money, not that it was hush money.
Trump reimbursed Cohen using his own money. No campaign finances were used.
originally posted by: highvein
originally posted by: timequake
a reply to: highvein
I believe that they are trying to get Trump on campaign finance violations. They are going to say that he didn't report the "hush money" to the FEC and therefore, he violated campaign finance rules.
Which campaign finance rule? And did the money come from his campaign fund?
originally posted by: AndyFromMichigan
originally posted by: chr0naut
originally posted by: burdman30ott6
a reply to: BlackJackal
Paying someone hush money, so long as it is not paying them to keep them quiet about a crime, is not a crime. Adultery is no longer a crime, so while I am very sure a number of people wish a crime had taken place here, none did. Covering up something prior to an election... also not a crime.
Cohen was convicted on eight charges, not just this one.
The crime was appropriating campaign funds to pay the hush money, not that it was hush money.
Trump reimbursed Cohen using his own money. No campaign finances were used.
originally posted by: JinMI
originally posted by: chr0naut
originally posted by: JinMI
a reply to: chr0naut
Via Cohen.
Think that witness is credible?
Well, he did confess to lying, so, there's that.
However court cases are built on more than testimony. You cannot charge someone with a crime without evidence that a crime has been committed and that they were the perp.
Taken with a now substantial body of other incriminating evidence, e-mails, legal documents, financial accounts and that from other sources, I would have to say that it is extremely likely that Cohen was telling the truth in this particular case .
First, what law are we talking about here. What action violated the statute?
What evidence is there to support it?
originally posted by: six67seven
originally posted by: AndyFromMichigan
originally posted by: chr0naut
originally posted by: burdman30ott6
a reply to: BlackJackal
Paying someone hush money, so long as it is not paying them to keep them quiet about a crime, is not a crime. Adultery is no longer a crime, so while I am very sure a number of people wish a crime had taken place here, none did. Covering up something prior to an election... also not a crime.
Cohen was convicted on eight charges, not just this one.
The crime was appropriating campaign funds to pay the hush money, not that it was hush money.
Trump reimbursed Cohen using his own money. No campaign finances were used.
The anti-Trumpers keep saying they have evidence of Trump’s guilt and that he committed a felony....or several.
Yet no one can produce a single shred... just empty words and fleeting dreams. Cohen is a dumb criminal - that’ll be the end of it.
The delusion is thick with them. Put up or shut up.