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Trump Administration Eyes Defining Transgender Out of Existence

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posted on Oct, 21 2018 @ 02:53 PM
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The Trump administration is considering narrowly defining gender as a biological, immutable condition determined by genitalia at birth, the most drastic move yet in a governmentwide effort to roll back recognition and protections of transgender people under federal civil rights law.

A series of decisions by the Obama administration loosened the legal concept of gender in federal programs, including in education and health care, recognizing gender largely as an individual’s choice and not determined by the sex assigned at birth. The policy prompted fights over bathrooms, dormitories, single-sex programs and other arenas where gender was once seen as a simple concept. Conservatives, especially evangelical Christians, were incensed.

nytimes.com

Is this really necessary two weeks before the elections? To anger a couple million people?

According to the article there are about 0.7% transgender people in our population. That makes about 2.5 million people, most I would say of voting age since the majority are not infants, but adults or nearly adults. That's a lot of voting population!

Now, I believe this election will be all about immigration and tolerance. About humanity. With 5,000 immigrants now leaving Southern Mexico, as reported today, and heading north, that is bound to double or triple by the time it reaches us at election time. This will be all over the news and our response to this will shape the outcome of the elections. I think it's brainstormed this way, the pamphlets may have been given out months ahead of time in preparation for this exodus. But now it's too late and no one can turn the caravan away... we will have to deal with it politically.

Is it really necessary to throw another crisis on top of it? Jesus Christ, it's like no one thinks ahead on this kinda stuff in the White House. Do a couple million transgender people and all the supporters beside them need to be angered at the very same time?

Is placating the small group of evangelicals who do support this enough to offset the nation-wide protests it may spark at already contentious times?



Note: I am not asking if you agree or not that they are the gender they feel they are, I am not asking on how genetics work or how psychology and physiology work... I am asking about how this will influence the elections politically.



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posted on Oct, 21 2018 @ 02:56 PM
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What about placating a fringe group like trans people and having everyone else bend over backwards to accommodate their mental illness?


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posted on Oct, 21 2018 @ 02:57 PM
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a reply to: Mahogany

It will affect the conservative vote. It will mobilize them. Maybe that is why they are doing it, maybe not.

Me, I think if a business wants to have a "third" bathroom or unisex bathrooms that is perfectly fine. However no government should have that as science is pretty clear that there are only male and female sexes and for the government to pander to a very small majority of people just to "stick it to" conservatives is not only wrong it is aggravating and childish.

And lets be honest, this whole transgender rights thing has always been to "stick it" to normies.


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posted on Oct, 21 2018 @ 02:58 PM
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a reply to: Mahogany

It is Hard to Get Rid of Something that Never Existed in the First Place to a SANE MIND .



posted on Oct, 21 2018 @ 02:59 PM
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a reply to: Mahogany

Probably not the best idea seeings how no matter what a person wants to do with their own body affects anything within the government.
Just more govnment trying to control people and how they want to live there own life.



posted on Oct, 21 2018 @ 02:59 PM
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originally posted by: projectvxn
What about placating a fringe group like trans people and having everyone else bend over backwards to accommodate their mental illness?


And it has to be done right now, at caravan time?

Their rights couldn't be taken back AFTER the elections?



posted on Oct, 21 2018 @ 03:00 PM
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posted on Oct, 21 2018 @ 03:07 PM
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originally posted by: Mahogany

nytimes.com


From article:


according to a memo obtained by The New York Times.


Illegally obtained no doubt.

And maybe fake.

💥😃💥



posted on Oct, 21 2018 @ 03:07 PM
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originally posted by: Allaroundyou
a reply to: Mahogany

Probably not the best idea seeings how no matter what a person wants to do with their own body affects anything within the government.
Just more govnment trying to control people and how they want to live there own life.


Very much agreed. Our bodies and our liquids, our thoughts and our speech belong to us. And we are all equal, no matter what minor differences we have in color or life preferences.

I think it's bad idea to tackle this at this time. I understand the admin stance on this and the conservative stance in general, but this is just such a bad time for it.

I don't think they get it.



posted on Oct, 21 2018 @ 03:10 PM
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I'll throw this in here too. My reply on if some people deserve rights or not, when I'm asked about it by anyone.


Some person: Do you think this (throw in sex, color , affiliation) deserves equal rights?

Me: Are they alive?

Person: *usually stumped* Ummmm, yeah they're alive.

Me: Then they deserve the exact same rights as everyone else who is alive.





edit on 21-10-2018 by Mahogany because: (no reason given)


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posted on Oct, 21 2018 @ 03:16 PM
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Two thirds of the "caravan" have already turned around and gone home.

People are walking away from the Democratic party in droves.

The Democratic platform of " Destroy America" has failed.

The politics of division, race baiting, race card playing, #metoo, gender inequality, etc. are fading as fast as the internet memes that they always really were.

People have become weary of the violence and public disorder the left has resorted to as a last ditch effort.

As the left shows their true face ( many now identifying as Democratic Socialists) Americans are sickened and are turning away.

The only hope for the left leaning is to start a new party and abandon the haunted house the DNC has become.



posted on Oct, 21 2018 @ 03:18 PM
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originally posted by: xuenchen

originally posted by: Mahogany

nytimes.com


From article:


according to a memo obtained by The New York Times.


Illegally obtained no doubt.

And maybe fake.

💥😃💥


That's what you're going to go with?

It's fake and it won't be happening? You don't see this admin rolling back these rights or you don't see it being done at election time?



posted on Oct, 21 2018 @ 03:18 PM
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edit on 10.21.2018 by Kandinsky because: (no reason given)


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posted on Oct, 21 2018 @ 03:18 PM
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There's always a debate regarding the actual size of the transgender population in the U.S. But in this case, I'm calling BS on the NYT's part.

There's no way in hell there are 2.5 million ( or .7% of the total population ) trans people in the U.S.
I live in one of the most progressive, deep blue, trans-friendly areas in the nation, and it's not even close. Not to mention that every other report available puts that number closer to 1 million. To inflate those numbers is dishonest and immediately discredits anything the NYT has to say on the issue.



posted on Oct, 21 2018 @ 03:20 PM
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Seems more like this is something the New York Times made up to try to help the Democrats before they get creamed in the midterms. I see no evidence in this article that supports what they are saying. Do you?



posted on Oct, 21 2018 @ 03:21 PM
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Is this even corroborated or is it purely a "from anonymous sources" type thing?



posted on Oct, 21 2018 @ 03:25 PM
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originally posted by: AgarthaSeed
There's always a debate regarding the actual size of the transgender population in the U.S. But in this case, I'm calling BS on the NYT's part.

There's no way in hell there are 2.5 million ( or .7% of the total population ) trans people in the U.S.
I live in one of the most progressive, deep blue, trans-friendly areas in the nation, and it's not even close. Not to mention that every other report available puts that number closer to 1 million. To inflate those numbers is dishonest and immediately discredits anything the NYT has to say on the issue.



They are just going by what they see in the clubs they go to. Surprised they don't say it's near 100 million. "Like, I mean like, I know so many transitional people you know? It's like um, everyone is going tranny man, it's so cool you know?"



posted on Oct, 21 2018 @ 03:27 PM
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a reply to: Mahogany

Trump is a hate-filled, unenlightened individual. He is caving to the narrow-minded ignoramuses.



posted on Oct, 21 2018 @ 03:27 PM
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a reply to: Mahogany

Trump is a hate-filled, unenlightened individual. He is caving to the narrow-minded ignoramuses.



posted on Oct, 21 2018 @ 03:27 PM
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a reply to: Mahogany

Trump is a hate-filled, unenlightened individual. He is caving to the narrow-minded ignoramuses.




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