Kavanaugh accuser wants a full FBI investigation before she testifies

a reply to: ausername


Maybe the FBI should Investigate HER (Christine Ford), for defamation of a high official.

a reply to: CynConcepts
maybe she didn't know them that well.
I partied with alot of people and now, they are partial faces with no names. friends of friends more than my friends personally.

it's funny, so many in this thread were determined that judge Scalia was murdered. lol

anyway, it's is very odd that she doesn't remember where she was, i'll agree with that.

it's also very odd that this judge guy will not testify under oath.

the damning evidence, to me, is the therapy notes from years ago.

I was molested when I was young, and I've told two people (my husband and my best friend), but if the tiny man who abused me was about be confirmed to a life time position as a supreme court judge you bet your ass i'd be telling my story.

if kavanaugh is innocent he should welcome an investigation, imo.

a reply to: dawnstar

Do you really not see how the Democrats have weaponized these accusations?
All it takes is an accusation, and someone's career and life is ruined. This should not be permitted to continue.

If we do not expect accusers to show evidence and testify under oath, then this weapon is going to become extremely dangerous, and that is exactly what the Democrats want.

They are using this tactic so often that it is unbelievable that people are still falling for it. They work very hard to dig up someone, anyone, from their enemy's past that may possibly have some kind of contact that can be twisted into a weapon, even if it was meaningless at the time. Or they completely fabricate something.

This accuser probably never expected to actually be called to testify. She probably was told that Kavanaugh would drop the nomination, or that Trump would be forced to drop him, and that would be the end of it.

I am very glad that Kavanaugh is strong enough to stand up for his reputation.

a reply to: BlueAjah


it's odd y'all believed Clinton's accusers, tho right?

Just adding to the pile of what do we really know about Christine Ford?

10. Some of Ford’s students suggest she is vengeful and is mentally unbalanced.

On RateMyProfessor, Ford’s students give her generally negative reviews, with some going so far as to call her the “worst teacher” ever and that “something is wrong with her.” She’s also said to hold grudges against students who somehow “cross her.”

“Christine ford is the worst educator I have ever experienced,” one student wrote. “Avoid taking her class and avoid any interaction with this person. I feel like she has something wrong with her and I am surprised no one has caught this. Also avoid fullerton’s MSW program as long as she is there.”

“Prof. Ford is unprofessional, lacks appropriate filters, and I am honestly scared of her,” another in a 2014 review. The student reported receiving an A in her class despite his or her displeasure with the professor. “She’s made comments both in class and in e-mails, if you cross her, you will be on her bad side. I fear to think of the poor clients that had to deal with her while she got her MSW and her LCSW. Absolutely the worst teacher I ever had.”

thefederalistpapers.org...

originally posted by: knoxie
it's funny, so many in this thread were determined that judge Scalia was murdered. lol

anyway, it's is very odd that she doesn't remember where she was, i'll agree with that.

it's also very odd that this judge guy will not testify under oath.

the damning evidence, to me, is the therapy notes from years ago.

I was molested when I was young, and I've told two people (my husband and my best friend), but if the tiny man who abused me was about be confirmed to a life time position as a supreme court judge you bet your ass i'd be telling my story.

if kavanaugh is innocent he should welcome an investigation, imo.

what should be investigated? The home where this happened? OK, where did it happen? Or the people there? OK, who was there? Or the exact date and time of the incident? OK, when exactly did this take place?

Do you know any details of when you were abused?

This reeks of political desperation. And it diminishes the severity of those who really have been abused. It's wrong, and even more wrong to have people who have been abused buying into this just because left vs. right. Pathetic.

originally posted by: knoxie
a reply to: BlueAjah


it's odd y'all believed Clinton's accusers, tho right?

That's generally what happens when the accusers start piling up. Not the case with Kavanaugh.

originally posted by: knoxie
it's funny, so many in this thread were determined that judge Scalia was murdered. lol

anyway, it's is very odd that she doesn't remember where she was, i'll agree with that.

it's also very odd that this judge guy will not testify under oath.

the damning evidence, to me, is the therapy notes from years ago.

I was molested when I was young, and I've told two people (my husband and my best friend), but if the tiny man who abused me was about be confirmed to a life time position as a supreme court judge you bet your ass i'd be telling my story.

if kavanaugh is innocent he should welcome an investigation, imo.

Well, the only investigation currently set is for Monday. Kavanaugh will be there to state his innocence while under oath. Will his accuser be there to make her accusation while under oath? Guess we will see.

Edit add: if she is not willing to accuse him while under oath...I see no reason why anyone would want to waste their time investigating.

originally posted by: carewemust
a reply to: ausername


Maybe the FBI should Investigate HER (Christine Ford), for defamation of a high official.

If she doesn't show after being invited and disappears without any further comments, that might be a real possibility.

a reply to: knoxie

I was molested when I was young, and I've told two people (my husband and my best friend), but if the tiny man who abused me was about be confirmed to a life time position as a supreme court judge you bet your ass i'd be telling my story.

First of all, I am sorry that happened to you knoxie. I have no doubt in such a scenario you would be able to remember enough detail to make the claim credible (ie: something/somewhere/someone investigators can look into for instance). I think her decision to request a full FBI investigation is a mistake, because it gives the appearance of deflection/deference during a time critical process overshadowed by attempts by the Dems to slow/halt the process.

With that known (given their opposition before he was even nominated and attempts to delay) what are we supposed to think? If anybody is harming the reputation/credibility of Judge's accuser, it is the Democrats for politicizing this process to the point no one believes what they say, since it all really does appear to be stall tactics.

The only real hearing his accuser will get on the matter is the Senate hearing this Monday, yet she is suspiciously not attending after going dark for 1.5 days. There is no investigation beyond the Senate, since sexual assault/battery is not a crime investigated by FBI (kidnapping is a federal offense, however) and the statute of limitations has expired anyhow.

Further, FBI has already conducted the most thorough background investigation it could possibly conduct and found nothing. No, she's been invited to make her claims under oath (where they'll carry at least some weight) this coming Monday and missing that event will smack of a Gloria Allred/Lanny Davis/Avenatti style con-job

OTOH, if she appears and makes her allegations under oath (under penalty of perjury) then I will support opening an investigation without delaying the confirmation process. After all, that is what impeachment is for. If it turns out to be true after he's a sitting SCOTUS justice, he can still be impeached.

a reply to: knoxie
I have a similar story, and I can understand how something like that can land you into marriage counseling..
for me it kind of warped any normal sexual activity even with my husband.
the only person I told was my husband.

originally posted by: knoxie
a reply to: BlueAjah


it's odd y'all believed Clinton's accusers, tho right?

I believe they had the right to be heard

I do not believe that had they came out the week before his election, Clinton should have had to withdraw his candidacy so that an fbi investigation could take place

I also think bill is innocent until proven guilty, as is Franken, Ellison, etc

I think Kavanaughs accuser should use the venue provided to her to tell her story

If she declines by demanding the fbi investigate first, that is on her

So far we know for a fact that feienstein sat in these allegations for near two months and is using it as a political tactic

We should all be outraged by this, and not give in to their demands to trivialize potential sexual assault in their transparent effort to try to push the conformation back until after the election

a reply to: network dude


so, she made it all up in therapy years ago?

What if its a different Kavanaugh all together?

a reply to: ausername

In typical Gloria Allred/Lanny Davis/Avenatti style, these crooked lawyers are a scourge on our wonderful Republic. They've bastardized our legal system, over complicated the law and generally positioned themselves and their criminal cronies in a position to make significant amounts of money.

All of these crooks have been cashing in on the anti-Trump sentiment throughout the left. Even that degenerate "Stormy" is writing a book (the fact she thinks anyone cares enough to read a whole book is another story all together.........)

a reply to: knoxie

How do we know it was years ago? How do we know it wasn't something Democrats concocted at the last moment to thwart our confirmation process? You know, the same antics they've been using since before his nomination was even announced (remember when they opposed *whoever* Trump nominated?)

Remember the debacle and zoo on the first few days of his hearing? Remember some poor woman being attacked merely for flashing a 3% pro-gun pro-Constitution anti-statist hand signal? Remember the screeching minions of Chuck Schumer bused into the hearing? Or how many had to be escorted out in handcuffs?

The timing is too damn coincidental. And unless she has tangible, physical evidence....then this is all a waste of time and we might as well get on with the vote. She shouldn't have waited, or at least should've maintained some degree of evidence. We simply cannot crucify/convict someone of such a serious charge without an equally significant burden of proof. A burden that is entirely on the accuser, not the accused.

People lie far too much to put someone's liberty in jeopardy over mere words spoken by a human. Again, people lie like they breathe oxygen - prolifically and all the time. Without evidence, we are left with the mere simple basic negligible words coming from some moving mouth - and that is worth precisely nothing.

^Those appalled at that reality should take it up with those who have degenerated our culture of morality/ethics into the nightmarish farce we see today.

originally posted by: knoxie
a reply to: network dude


so, she made it all up in therapy years ago?

Her therapists notes supposedly say there were four people present when the attack occurred

That is in direct contradiction with her story now that there were two

So what is your point about her therapy statements?

a reply to: JBurns

OTOH, if she appears and makes her allegations under oath (under penalty of perjury) then I will support opening an investigation without delaying the confirmation process. After all, that is what impeachment is for. If it turns out to be true after he's a sitting SCOTUS justice, he can still be impeached.

makes sense.


what do y'all think about regarding the judge guy not willing to testify under oath. seems a bit odd, imo.

originally posted by: knoxie
it's funny, so many in this thread were determined that judge Scalia was murdered. lol

anyway, it's is very odd that she doesn't remember where she was, i'll agree with that.

it's also very odd that this judge guy will not testify under oath.

the damning evidence, to me, is the therapy notes from years ago.

I was molested when I was young, and I've told two people (my husband and my best friend), but if the tiny man who abused me was about be confirmed to a life time position as a supreme court judge you bet your ass i'd be telling my story.

if kavanaugh is innocent he should welcome an investigation, imo.

Why is it odd that Judge wont testify? If someone randomly brought your name up in a massively public way and you dont agree with them, would you want the wrath of the side you disagree with to be brought down on you? I sure as hell wouldn't want to be any part of it.

And how is the evidence damning? She doesn't say any names and claims her therapist wrote incorrect notes. That evidence is not evidence of anything.

I hate that this happened to you as I have close friends with similar stories from childhood.

I would like to ask, do you remember the details? Every person I know that has been a victim of rape or molestation remembers almost every detail because it is traumatic and time stands still....