Trump - Impeach me and the market crashes

originally posted by: St Udio
Trump is not concerned with hubris about himself... his aim is for his group of neocons to come out-on-top verses the Radical-Revolutionary- Left (Demofascists) that has been controlled by the (bankster-petro) Globalists from Bush W thru Clinton & Obama to now...

I am sure that the GDP economy/ Stock Markets/ Debt Balloon will take a severe hit whether Trump gets Impeached or not... the economic reset is in the cards already

If Trump gets removed from office the Fed & Central Bankers will have to rescue the USA from total anarchy & collapse... they will install (with Congress approval) -> Wage & Price Controls... so that money is rationed out to the masses and costs-of-living can be controlled instead of the Trump way of using the Tax system to act as the governor of the economy...


the leftists will get their envisioned communist/socialist state with the masses getting enough largesse' to Sustain Themselves for the next 10 years...but no limit on the Democrat Party Elites, Czars abilities to accumulate wealth which the huddled masses have suddenly lost. Of greater concern will be the victory over the Trump Cabal will lead back to Wars-For-Profit as a means to an "no-end-in-sight" conflict paradigm---- Whereas the Trump policy was to negotiate instead

negotiate everything...like the Russia pipeline of nat gas Germany... the Syrian nat gas exporting infrastructure to EU...
the development of the Israeli Trillions of cubic feet of gas energy which lies somewhat under Gaza & the Golan Heights and under the Med. almost to Cyprus (.but stingy hands do not want to share any bounty)

our future may be better under a Trump led NWO instead of the present banker-energy Globalist NWO that has screwed things up since JFK's end



had to gloss over stuff to keep the post under a 2 minute read

Yeah, nah. The Fed has already been captured.

Sounds like you are the problem then

originally posted by: DieGloke
Better argument would be:

Impeach me and you get Mike Pense!

The thought of that wackadoodle bible thumper being President would make me think twice of impeaching trump even if he shot a baby live on air and released a Putin gay sex tape.

originally posted by: Ash614
a reply to: introvert

It ended at 350 points because the news was corrected. If they had not retracted the story it would have crashed imo.

The U.S. markets, and other worldwide, now have what are called “circuit breakers” in place to protect against an all-out short-term market crash. They were implemented in 1998. So, a one-day crash such as happened in the early 1900’s, or even the crash of 1997 is protected against. Now, that isn’t to say that the value of investment wouldn’t go down considerably, at least in the short term should Trump be impeached.

Some info on the circuit breakers...

Nevertheless, market-wide U.S. circuit breakers were instituted in 1988. After producing increasingly frequent trading pauses over the next decade, as the size of the market grew, the breakers went mad in 1997, triggering constantly and causing a full shutdown on October 27th. This caused a bout of recriminations and some significant tweaks to the system, notably a shift to percentage-based thresholds. Since 1997, market-wide breakers have been triggered precisely … never. No market event since 1998—including the worst declines of the Great Recession and the “flash crash” of May, 2010, when the value of many major stocks briefly plummeted in value—has triggered a system-wide stoppage.

Examples of these circuit breakers are:

the S&P 500 breakers have three thresholds: at seven per cent, thirteen per cent, and a total shutdown in the event of a whopping twenty-per-cent decline.

Source :The New Yorker

originally posted by: [post=23702336]Ash614[/pos]
The market was baked in for Clinton victory.

The market, which is thousands of separate companies, doesnt care who wins, it's done well under both parties. You are exceptionally naive when it comes to this dynamic.

originally posted by: Enderdog
True! Other people go broke, because the game is rigged to punish "common sense". Wacky reality we live in, eh?

If you follow a common sense investment strategy you wont go broke, you may not make exponential gains due to low risk, but you certainly wont go broke.

a reply to: AugustusMasonicus

Most people don't know anything about the modern mutual funds which have been driving the stock market the last decade or so. Short term vs long term tax rates really are not going to make much difference in a downturn. A sharp fund manager that can churn assets effectively could keep you afloat in a volatile market. Even if the underlying earnings have all the financial integrity of a flava puff there is probably some unspoken agreement among fund managers to keep those quarterly statements looking nice. Can't see these huge funds letting the market drop even 20% short term.

a reply to: Cassi3l

He is right. Mayhem would ensue, and the market would tumble. Maybe not crash, but tumble.

I cannot understate the anger that is simmering in middle and rural America. Trump was their attempt to fix what they saw as "wrong": there are no candidates to represent them and stop the slide into urbanistic domestic policies we have seen.

Remove Trump and the next move likely won't be so polite.

I can't argue with them and their viewpoint. Im pretty pissed myself, to be honest.

a reply to: bigfatfurrytexan

We don't receive presidential briefing, I'm far too clueless to be anything other than responding emotionally.
Really shouldn't be wasting the ATS bandwidth.

a reply to: Cauliflower

so long as you aren't rude to others, you should respond.

For me, i work out whats in my head by breaking it against the rocks on ATS.

originally posted by: DieGloke
Better argument would be:

Impeach me and you get Mike Pence!

You're asking Democrats to THINK ahead? To think about ramifications? LOL!!!

You don't think the markets would react (possibly strongly) to political instability?

Impeachment is a can of worms this country cannot afford to open IMO

Can anyone cite (without any conjecture or "dot connecting") why this President should in fact be impeached? Can anyone here make a case for impeachment without resorting to guessing and accusations? Just one person

a reply to: Cassi3l


This is just an utterly ridiculous thing for Trump to say. In his mind im sure that's the way it ends up, but no transient office position will ever be > the market.

originally posted by: TrueBrit

Its one thing for him to think such a thing, which would be pretty pathetic in and of itself, but quite another to voice it. Who, exactly, does he think he is? Even the President of the United States, regardless of who it happens to be in a given year, cannot seriously expect to not be a laughing stock even amongst his supporters in the know, after such a statement.

He kind of sounds a lot like Obama...

It is logical to conclude that impeaching Trump would lead to massive riots on the part of the right, which would tank the economy, followed by massive riots on the left, as Pence becomes Gilead's Commander in Chief.

originally posted by: JBurns
You don't think the markets would react (possibly strongly) to political instability?

Sure they would, but nothing as strong as the mess GWB left for Obama...and they are resilient and would rebound.

Though I have to say that the problem was even inherited by GWB too, that mess was a LONG time coming.

a reply to: AugustusMasonicus

Yeah bro you mad! I am not about to drop a resume on ATS but call me naive? Wow you are an idiot.

a reply to: Cassi3l

I'll take a wild guess here and say you were never a CEO of a company, am I right? If Trump got impeached the stock markets would do exactly as Trump said. He knows a thing or two since he's been in the stock market successfully. Whether you feel he's bloviating or not doesn't matter. The markets prefer steady and stable as opposed to turmoil. You are dead wrong and Trump is 100% right. Sorry, you know nothing about the stock market from what you said.

nvm

My understanding of the balance between a President and the Markets is one of give and take. If the policies do well, then the markets reflect. If the polices are not, like say tariffs that affect major industries, the markets do poorly. Other factors like laws, regulations and say taxes, will all play into that. The final part of that would be the public, as how much they buy and spend also tie into that.

There are several things that will come into play. The first is how much is revealed, beyond what is shown already. The more that comes out the more the public and businesses are going to be swayed to the idea of removing the president from office. Remember, impeachment is only half about justice, and the other half is about politics. The next thing would be what the next guy, in this case, the Vice President, would do. If Pence is confirmed as the new President and he lifts the tariffs, then I would guess it would be a blip on the stock market and they raise up.

But all of this would be speculation.

a reply to: Xtrozero

In what way, does Trumps statement, echo anything Obama said about anything during his presidency?

I do not remember hearing of Obama suggesting that action against him would result in market collapse.