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originally posted by: Denoli
8 billion of it is for eu officials pensions lol .
originally posted by: Soloprotocol
I see farage did ok out of the Eu..£240k pension or so. ?
originally posted by: Denoli
Well I'm glad we are out .
The quicker the better !
EU negotiators were seeking €60bn to €75bn euros (£53bn-£66bn), but were bargained down by the UK to £35bn-£39bn.
#ing joke
originally posted by: fusiondoe
This all boils down to money.
Eu will keep the transitional period going for years and years because ‘it takes time to negotiate a trade deal’... All the while we will have to keep paying and paying and paying.
It is and always has been about the money, the EU gravy train. It is all they care about
originally posted by: Painterz
We remainers did tell you that exactly this would happen.
But you all refused to listen.
originally posted by: ForteanOrg
So you can have your imagined Walhalla, trade with India (12000 KM away), China (7000 KM away) and Australia (15000 KM away), instead of with Europe (0 KM away now, and at best just a few inches in the near future (e.g. Northern Ireland)? Yeah, I can dig that (!)
originally posted by: crayzeed
First a question for all you "brexiteers"? Just explain how you have personally suffered under the EU?
This week in a largely under reported story the EU is taking
legal action against Hungary, Poland and the Czech Republic for
refusing to accept their massive migrant quotas.
As the hundreds of thousands of illegal immigrants surged across
Europe in 2015,it was the Hungarians who could see that was bad
news and their own strict border controls, halting the flow so that
those unable to get to Germany remained in Greece and Italy.
Furious Brussels manderins said this was not acceptable, and insisted
that Hungary share the refugee burden along with other Eastern
European states. (notice states and not nations)
Angela Merkle acting as the de facto 'Empress of Europe' had Brussels
jump to her command and hoped to intimidate Hungary and the other
Eastern European countries by hitting them where it hurt most - in the
pocket, by threatening tocut off their flow of financial subsidies.
You only have to spend a few days in any of these beautiful countries
to understand how the shadow of Islamic conquest still hangs over them.
Many of their museums proudly display trophies captured from the Turks
at the siege of Vienna in 1683.
These nations are all now democrats and therefor entitled to protect
their own citizens and culture in their own way.
The Visegrad group rejected the demands of the EU to relocate some
160,000 refugees across the bloc.Out of the 11,069 migrants they were
allocated in 2015 they have only taken 28.
This summer *European Commission President*
Jean-Claude Juncker announced he was in favour of the EU taking
legal action against them *Not to make a threat* he said *but to make
clear that decisions that have been made by the EU are applicable law,
even if you have voted against them*
It is interesting to note that Hungary is also being taken to the ECJ over
laws it has introduced to counter the influence of Hungarian born
billionaire George Soros.
Soros is the speculator who made a fortune betting against the UK in
1992 sterling crisis.
A leading patron of the global liberal elite he is now using his billions to
fund his *Open Society Foundations* that spread his pro migration views
around the world especially in his former homeland.
By insisting on taking a train crash approach to legal action against
Hungary, Poland and the Czech Republic it appears that the EU may well
be on course to forcing those proud countries to take a deep breath and
ditch the EU themselves.
A NEW £47million museum of European history is under fire for ignoring great Brits
such as Winston Churchill and William Shakespeare while glossing over German’s evil
Nazi past
Critics of the House of European History, in Brussels, also point out that revolutionary
British achievements like the television, railways and penicillin also go unmentioned.
However such questionable exhibits about the paper clip and the ballpoint pen - invented
by a Norwegian and Hungarian, respectively - are included.
Britain is credited with importing pyjamas from Asia and being the first European nation to abolish slavery.
The centre, which was part-funded by UK taxes, said it is dedicated to the 'history of Europe
and the process of integration’.
The only mention of Churchill, Britain’s Prime Minister during the Second World War, is in the form of a photograph of the Yalta summit, which does not feature a caption.
Landmark battles such as Dunkirk and D-Day which helped free Europe from the yolk of Nazi rule are also barely noted, as are the fallen soldiers from Commonwealth allies including Australia, Canada and New Zealand.
arlier this month Poland’s culture minister lashed out at the museum, saying it showed his country, as well as France and Ukraine, as being ‘complicit in the Holocaust’.
Piotr Glinski detailed his concerns in a letter on Friday October 6 to the President of the European Parliament Antonio Tajani, which sponsored the exhibit at the House of European History.
He wrote: “This exhibition violates fundamental historical truth in matters of fundamental importance, omits many important historical facts and presents, in many cases, a biased interpretation of them.”
Mr Glinski said he received “numerous signals and letters” critical of the exhibition since it opened in May.
He continued in the letter that the exhibition’s narrative “shows that the greatest victims of World War II were Germans, without indicating their role as aggressors and initiators of the Second World War and without counting the civilian victims of German warfare throughout Europe”.
originally posted by: eletheia
If anyone is still in any doubt of just what the EU thinks of the UK!![/b]
EU museum of Europe sidelines Churchill while glossing over Germany’s Nazi past
A NEW £47million museum of European history is under fire for ignoring great Brits
such as Winston Churchill and William Shakespeare while glossing over German’s evil
Nazi past
Critics of the House of European History, in Brussels, also point out that revolutionary
British achievements like the television, railways and penicillin also go unmentioned.
However such questionable exhibits about the paper clip and the ballpoint pen - invented
by a Norwegian and Hungarian, respectively - are included.
Britain is credited with importing pyjamas from Asia and being the first European nation to abolish slavery.
The centre, which was part-funded by UK taxes, said it is dedicated to the 'history of Europe
and the process of integration’.
The only mention of Churchill, Britain’s Prime Minister during the Second World War, is in the form of a photograph of the Yalta summit, which does not feature a caption.
Landmark battles such as Dunkirk and D-Day which helped free Europe from the yolk of Nazi rule are also barely noted, as are the fallen soldiers from Commonwealth allies including Australia, Canada and New Zealand.
arlier this month Poland’s culture minister lashed out at the museum, saying it showed his country, as well as France and Ukraine, as being ‘complicit in the Holocaust’.
Piotr Glinski detailed his concerns in a letter on Friday October 6 to the President of the European Parliament Antonio Tajani, which sponsored the exhibit at the House of European History.
He wrote: “This exhibition violates fundamental historical truth in matters of fundamental importance, omits many important historical facts and presents, in many cases, a biased interpretation of them.”
Mr Glinski said he received “numerous signals and letters” critical of the exhibition since it opened in May.
He continued in the letter that the exhibition’s narrative “shows that the greatest victims of World War II were Germans, without indicating their role as aggressors and initiators of the Second World War and without counting the civilian victims of German warfare throughout Europe”.
AND THE UK HELPED TO FUND IT
originally posted by: stormcell
originally posted by: djz3ro
originally posted by: fusiondoe
Where are the protests? Are my fellow leave voters just going to sit there and tolerate what May has done. Sold us down the river completely.
What a gutless race of people we are that we are not out protesting, or even tearing Westminster to pieces.
I am no good on my own! I call for every member of ATS who voted leave-and your leave voting friends- to join me in storming Westminster.
We did not vote for this and I knew all along May was a sell out.
Ok I’ve calmed down now - But seriously what a joke. Why on Earth was a remainer ever put in power in the first place.
I don't think leaving the EU is a good idea at all, I never have. That being said, it's happening, badly but it's happening.
I'll join you in storming Westminster though, she's screwing the country up good and proper
She was a remainer, maybe this was her strategy all along?
The EU wants all our countries to become one super-country, the United States of Europe, with a single treasury, economic policy, armed forces, immigration policy. Many EU countries still have national service, where school-leavers serve in the miltary for a year. The UK would have to reintroduce this in order to conform with the rest of Europe.
That was always the plan; the British public would never go for it, especially after Word War II, but the politicians kept the plans secret for decades.
originally posted by: Azureblue
originally posted by: fusiondoe
Where are the protests? Are my fellow leave voters just going to sit there and tolerate what May has done. Sold us down the river completely.
What a gutless race of people we are that we are not out protesting, or even tearing Westminster to pieces.
I am no good on my own! I call for every member of ATS who voted leave-and your leave voting friends- to join me in storming Westminster.
We did not vote for this and I knew all along May was a sell out.
Ok I’ve calmed down now - But seriously what a joke. Why on Earth was a remainer ever put in power in the first place.
Looking back over whats happened with this matter, we can now see the purpose of the brexit vote was to take the heat out of the 'get out' push, and then undo it a year or so later as that will then deflate the push and put and end to it forever.
I wondered why some of the elite supported it, now I have my answer.