Active Shooter Las Vegas, Mandalay Bay

Yea Lombardo looks like a straight shooter. He says he appears frustrated because of the lack of information they are getting but to me its probably the lack of information HE is getting from the fbi.

originally posted by: Flyingclaydisk
Personally, I'm beginning to think Lombardo is being made the fall guy. And, I agree, there are probably a whole slew of people who are ready to come forward and argue the official narrative, and I'm betting Lombardo is right at the front of the pack (that's my personal opinion). I think he's being spoon fed the official narrative from someone else (likely the feds), and those aren't his words. From what I can tell, he's a pretty shrewd operator and he's only going to play along for so long. Then all bets are off. I'm thinking we're pretty close to that point now with this latest revelation!

I'm betting the feds are just LIVID over his releasing this latest detail. I think the official story is now cracking hopelessly apart and about ready to shatter!

a reply to: Lilroanie

if we are throwing around speculations: what about someone planned such an attack. But he got the wrong room. Lets say opposite the hallway. He knocks on Paddocks door,
shoots him in the face. Brings all the guns in (guns are already on the trolley found at the door).

The security hears a shot, wants to check. The attacker gets surprised, shoots at Campos.
knows he has limited time, shoots the people at the doncert for 10mins and goes back to his hotel room.

SWAT storms the room, sees Paddock ‚suicided‘. Case closed. And the real attacker runs free.

Again, pure speculation.

a reply to: svetlana84

That's a good one except for the weapons being registered to him. Unless that is not true, I dunno. That's kinda one of my scenarios but I added they(whoever really did it) didn't know he had weapons (for the gun show?) and he shot Campos. Shrug everything is so messed up with what we are officially hearing, I honestly have no clue. Just trying to make sense of the unimaginable.

a reply to: Flyingclaydisk

I've been with you there. I also don't think it would have taken them so long to identify which room the shots were coming from....it had to be incredibly loud for the people in the rooms surrounding Paddock's. It wouldn't have taken any time at all to narrow it down.

Maybe the "prostitute" was actually a "spotter".

Remember the account from a witness saying an Hispanic woman about 5'5" with an Hispanic male was meandering through the crowd, and the witness said she heard her say "they are all around you, and you're all going to die"?

How long after this did Campos show up at Paddock's room?

If Campos talked to dispatch, why the uncertainty of the time. At least it should have been known it was before the concert shots and not after as first stated. All the panic would have happened after the main shooting. Doesn't seem very confusing.

a reply to: queenofswords

I was just thinking about that too. The problem is, no one else has come forward saying they also heard that woman before the concert.. only that one girl. No security came forward saying they heard it or escorted her out either. I also think someone would have recorded at least a little of that situation. These people were all recording, sending Snapchat pictures and video throughout the whole day and night. I dunno. I don’t want to think the girl was lying, but not a single other person corroborates that story.

If it was confirmed, though.. I could see maybe the Hispanic woman knew someone who worked at the hotel. Maybe she even warned the security guard himself, thinking no one was going to believe her. And she’d then have to tell LEO that she knows something because she’s a prostitute who was with Paddock, and that’s how she knew something was going to happen.

a reply to: Deadscreameyes

Ohhh maybe the "Hispanic male" with the "warning woman" was Campos? And he went to see if she was right?

Or was Campos the security guard running from cops nearby and he got away and hurried to Paddocks room and startled him? (just another idea lob sorry!)

And yeah, the fact she's(the girl reporting the mystery warning woman) the only one who has said that the "warning woman" even exists is hinky to me.

So many unanswered questions, confusing, suspicious official reports makes this whole thing highly fishy!

a reply to: Deadscreameyes

I watched that witness and she seemed very certain of what she was saying, right down to a detail about the woman playing with someone's hair and telling them they were going to die. The witness did not appear to be making it up, but, like you said, nobody else has come forward. Maybe everybody in the area that could have heard the woman say that, got killed.

originally posted by: Flyingclaydisk
a reply to: 0x6372756d6273

I've said from the very beginning that the whole notion of SWAT taking over an hour to show up just completely doesn't make sense! I mean seriously, go back over 100 pages or so (in this thread) and this is what I've been saying. In fact, I think it was one of my first posts on this thread. Several other threads as well. A bunch of people have thrown all manner of rocks at me for saying this, but the whole time...it just doesn't add up.

Now, it adds up even less! And, it's a credible and real issue, always has been...even though no one wanted to acknowledge this initially.

I've also said the doors between 134 and 135 had alarm contact on them. Now it would seem THIS is what Campos was allegedly responding to, NOT the shooting (because it hadn't started yet).

So, once again, I ask...why did it take SWAT so long to show up??? Why did it take authorities so long to figure out what room he was in???

Fully 6 minutes BEFORE the shooting on the crowd started...Campos had been shot, AND "200 ROUNDS" had been fired from a high powered rifle down the hallway INSIDE the hotel!!! All of this BEFORE the shooter started firing on the crowd! HOW, could there be ANY question where the shooter was??? It's just incomprehensible (as I've been saying over and over).

Can anyone else appreciate just how completely insane all of this is???

(it's like the freaking twilight zone!)

I'm speculating...that since the smoke alarm went off in Paddock's sniper location, the SWAT teams would have taken the steps instead of the elevator. The SWAT units might also have suspected that the shooter booby-trapped the elevators.

Early reports said smoke alarm but it was an open door indication.

An open door a few rooms away from the Las Vegas suite of the man who was gunning down concertgoers at a music festival set off an alarm that prompted a response from a security guard, Clark County Undersheriff Kevin C. McMahill said Friday.
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The alarm from a room "a number of doors down" from Paddock's likely was a coincidence, McMahill told CNN's "The Situation Room with Wolf Blitzer." The door was not forced open, had been open for a while, and Paddock didn't have the keys to that room. McMahill said that door either had been left open or didn't shut completely.

www.cnn.com...

a reply to: roadgravel

But that report is before yesterday's change of the timeline by the sheriff at the news conference. Yesterday he was only being hailed as having saved the maintenance guy from being shot. The brand new person on the scene is the maintenance guy who first appeared in yesterday's press conference.

Hmm stopped back by ats, been busy working lately, interesting how this story died pretty quick, seems Harvey is the sacrifice.. Still no motive.. this story is dirty. Ya I am betting this is going political legislation for more gun control less liberty... The government just fears us a little, if they get there way they will fear us less. No motive by now public, now we are being distracted something is not right. RIP to the victims hope all that got hurt heal well, I hope answers come to those that wonder why..

Police are now saying that he fired special "incendiary" bullets at the 43,000 fuel tank. Those bullets contain jet fuel. They found bullets near the tank and in the room. He also had tracer rounds. They say he fired at the tanks first, so this must be the initial gunfire, before the barrage at the crowd.

www.cnn.com...

a reply to: EchoesInTime
Interesting new development but it this should be noted:

The sources, briefed on the investigation but not authorized to speak publicly, said the incendiary rounds were recovered in an area near the tank.
It is unclear if the rounds that struck the tank were also of the incendiary variety.
Chris Jones, an airport spokesman, said he was unaware of any rounds being recovered other than those that struck the tank.

Who are all these people who are being "briefed" and are running to the media? How come they're not briefing the sheriff is a question that comes to mind since he has answered several questions with "I don't know that personally."

I've seen numerous accounts that claimed to be from "briefed sources"....and yet sheriff denies those reports when asked about them. We'll see if anyone questions him about this at the next presser and how he reacts.

originally posted by: queenofswords
a reply to: Deadscreameyes

I watched that witness and she seemed very certain of what she was saying, right down to a detail about the woman playing with someone's hair and telling them they were going to die. The witness did not appear to be making it up, but, like you said, nobody else has come forward. Maybe everybody in the area that could have heard the woman say that, got killed.

Sounds like the lady's Guardian Angel was warning her. That happens sometimes.

a reply to: worsaw

FBI long been known as black hole - everything gets sucked it, but no information emerges

Local cops long frustrated with feds, which is why NYPD set up parallel intelligence network

Station officers in foreign cities to interface with local police and intelligence

Send officers to sites of terrorist attacks to collect information

a reply to: EchoesInTime

Nothing really special about "incendiary" or "tracer" rounds and both pretty much same thing.

Had Paddock used these much it would have made his location easily seen and I think that would have elicited many comments by witnesses to the event.

Lack of witness comments says disinformation to me.

If the aviation fuel tanks were first target with intent of starting them afire, Mr. Meticulous genius guy should have known to use .308 or heavier calibers.

.223 is woefully inadequate for that job at that range.

I call bs.

Law enforcement sources told CBS News that Las Vegas shooter Stephen Paddock is believed to have used the freight elevator at the Mandalay Bay hotel casino in the days leading up to last week's deadly attack. It wasn't clear what Paddock used the freight elevator for or how often he used it.

Source
To transport the guns/bags of guns? Or more dis-info in the timeline?

a reply to: Lilroanie

It may be covered in this video. It's about 30 minutes long, but an interesting watch.

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