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Active Shooter Las Vegas, Mandalay Bay

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posted on Oct, 9 2017 @ 09:42 PM

originally posted by: 0x6372756d6273
a reply to: Phoenix

I think you have your facts a little mixed up.

There definitely is a door between 134 and 135. You can see my previous replies here that show the proper floor plans, including a video of the exact room, and images of identical rooms. This door was later revealed to be locked from the inside of 134 and police had to breach it with explosives after breaching the door into 135. So that is not the door that was ajar.

The door that was supposedly screwed shut was the stairwell door, no the door to 135. This was reported to have caused the first responders and security guard to use the elevator instead. I think SWAT has to pry the door open.

Original reports regarding the security guard did in fact mention that the door to 135 was ajar, and that was the reason he attempted to enter it. It was reported that the door was barricaded with furniture on the inside too, so he couldn't enter. That is when he got shot at through the door. However, original reports were saying that took place after the shooting started, not before, which didn't make sense.

What doesn't make sense now is how the door was supposedly ajar, but yet barricaded. You would think if someone attempted to barricade a door they would also first close it and lock it.

It also doesn't make sense when the police claim he wanted to escape, and looked for any way possible to escape, but yet barricaded the door, and even locked the connecting door from within 134, and screwed the stairwell door closed? Sounds more like someone trapped him in, and the shots at 10:09 were to keep him inside.

Reading last night, the officers first in the room don't think he was planning to escape, they think he was preparing for a fire fight between him and the makeshift swat team. I didn't read anywhere that the door into his room was barricaded, just that he managed to screw the stairwell door shut.

posted on Oct, 9 2017 @ 09:50 PM
I thought the word "barricade" was used in reference to the stairwell door.

posted on Oct, 9 2017 @ 10:02 PM
a reply to: TruD4rkness

Initial reports were that the security guard attempted to enter room 135 after noticing the door was ajar, but found it was barricaded.

Mr Campos tried to open the door but it was barricaded and Paddock had also seen him coming, swiftly firing through the door and hitting Mr Campos in the leg, Dave Hickey, president of the International Union, Security, Police and Fire Professionals of America told the Daily Beast.

Since Paddock had blocked stairwell doors leading to the hallway outside his room, Campos had to use the elevator to try and find the shooter who was firing on the crowd below. When he tried to enter Paddock’s room, Campos discovered that the door had been barricaded just before the bullets flew.

Mandalay Bay ​security ​guard Jesus Campos was carrying just a nightstick when he tried to open Paddock’s barricaded door on the hotel’s 32nd floor Sunday night, the Daily Beast reports.

Paddock, who had cameras looking outside his room, stopped shooting at the crowds below and fired through the door at Campos, blasting him in the right leg.

Its alarming to see how the media is quick to report inaccurate information. The AOL source also says:

Additional security guards and police officers rushed to the scene and exchanged gunfire with Paddock.

That is what is missing from the timeline.
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posted on Oct, 9 2017 @ 10:09 PM
a reply to: iTruthSeeker

Thank you for posting this video. I had been searching for it. I knew that I had seen one that had the sound of a helicopter nearby before the shooting started. I can faintly hear the helicopter at the very beginning of the video and can also hear it after the shooting starts. It makes me think that possibly the thump-thump of the helicopter is what some people are thinking was a second shooter, farther away.

I also saw a stationary video taken from the back of the venue that had the sound of the helicopter in it and there was a light moving behind the hotel that appeared to be a helicopter. Still looking for that video.

posted on Oct, 10 2017 @ 12:21 AM
ABC Source, another image and more details emerge. One of his friends and employee said:

The man accused of carrying out last week’s deadly mass shooting in Las Vegas, Stephen Paddock, was a caring person who tried his best to "make people happy," a friend and longtime employee of his told ABC News’

“Good Morning America” today. “He actually cared about everybody,” said Lisa Crawford of Dallas, who managed an apartment that Paddock owned from 2006 to 2012. “He tried to make people happy. He tried to make people care. And I don’t know what happened to him,” she said as she fought to hold back tears.

That aligns with what his brother in Orlando said during the second interview.

Being prescribed Valiums, probably didn't contribute to this planning mass murder. Aggression is claimed however. Or maybe, just maybe it hyped his aggression, sounds like from sources that he paid off Drs. to prescribe it when it's on concern lists due to abuse. Someone leading a second life? Or even cue in MKUltra theories.
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posted on Oct, 10 2017 @ 01:09 AM
a reply to: 0x6372756d6273

Thx, the explanation is appreciated as I'm trying to get the particulars nailed down in light of the changed timeline.

The Sheriff and news reports say SWAT had to pry bar fire stair door open to access 32nd floor.

Today's news conference Sheriff says security was reporting to fire stair door being opened.

That's very conflicting information put out by Sheriff.

I mean either stair door was screwed shut or it wasn't - can't be both!

The suite 135 door ajar issue just about deserves it's own thread with all possible conspiracy permutations that offers.

We have days of meticulous planning where police are baffled on Paddocks movements between 25th and 28th but Mr. Meticulous leaves door ajar???

Credulity is getting stretched just a tad here.

posted on Oct, 10 2017 @ 03:58 AM
I thought things couldn't get any more bizarre... I was wrong.

They changed the timeline drastically... The first responding security guard was shot 6 minutes before the gunman opened fire on the concert. This means police knew the location of the shooter before the shooting even started. This doesn't explain why they were busy searching floors 29 to 31 first, nor why it took SWAT an hour to breach the room.

I've said in the past few replies that the security guard story wasn't adding up. I figured the security guard confrontation took place around 10:09 based on the muffled internal gunshots discovered on video, long before the initial report around 10:17. But I didn't think they would move it even further back to 9:59.

Now I can't explain what happened at 10:09. It's a complete mystery.

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posted on Oct, 10 2017 @ 07:55 AM
a reply to: 0x6372756d6273

I've said from the very beginning that the whole notion of SWAT taking over an hour to show up just completely doesn't make sense! I mean seriously, go back over 100 pages or so (in this thread) and this is what I've been saying. In fact, I think it was one of my first posts on this thread. Several other threads as well. A bunch of people have thrown all manner of rocks at me for saying this, but the whole just doesn't add up.

Now, it adds up even less! And, it's a credible and real issue, always has been...even though no one wanted to acknowledge this initially.

I've also said the doors between 134 and 135 had alarm contact on them. Now it would seem THIS is what Campos was allegedly responding to, NOT the shooting (because it hadn't started yet).

So, once again, I ask...why did it take SWAT so long to show up??? Why did it take authorities so long to figure out what room he was in???

Fully 6 minutes BEFORE the shooting on the crowd started...Campos had been shot, AND "200 ROUNDS" had been fired from a high powered rifle down the hallway INSIDE the hotel!!! All of this BEFORE the shooter started firing on the crowd! HOW, could there be ANY question where the shooter was??? It's just incomprehensible (as I've been saying over and over).

Can anyone else appreciate just how completely insane all of this is???

(it's like the freaking twilight zone!)

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posted on Oct, 10 2017 @ 08:06 AM
If I didn't know better I'd be starting to think maybe someone(s) actually prevented SWAT from showing up any earlier than they did.

So, it would be interesting to know just exactly what SWAT was actually responding to. Were they responding to Campos being shot and 200 rounds being fired from a barricaded gunman INSIDE the hotel? OR, were they responding to the dooshbag shooter firing on the crowd below...6 minutes later?

The official narrative is quickly unraveling now.

Another question I have is, why didn't Campos tell hotel security he'd been shot?? From the current narrative it appears the first people who discovered him shot were the responding LEO's. He might have only had a nightstick, but surely he had a radio or a cell phone...right?

And here's one more matter how you slice the story now, no matter what color glasses you wear, there's absolutely NO way anyone can suggest Campos was some kind of "hero". So, this part of the story was 100 PERCENT manufactured!! And, it sounds like this isn't the only thing. if one were to believe some of the 'other' data (from other sources, like 4Chan for example) which suggest the feds have had jurisdiction over this event the whole time, then Lombardo is just a spokesman because he's not a fed. So, it would seem he's getting backed further and further into a corner with the lies he's being fed to issue as public statements. Frankly, I think Lombardo is a straight-up long is it going to be before he snaps and dumps the truth??? Sounds like he's getting pretty close with this latest revelation!

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posted on Oct, 10 2017 @ 08:23 AM
I had started to write a post to this thread on Saturday morning (10/7). I started composing the post in Word. I thought better of posting it at the time fearing I might be wrong, but I saved it just in case. Here's the raw text of what I wrote on Saturday...

Jesus Compos, the Las Vegas security guard at the Mandalay Bay Casino, hailed as a hero. Allegedly bravely took a bullet to the leg, in a hail of gunfire (some say 200 rds.), while attempting to stop the Las Vegas shooter. Even while injured Compos allegedly assisted authorities clearing rooms until he was ordered to leave and seek medical attention.

Quite the story, but who is Jesus Compos? One would think there would be pictures of this heroic person who allegedly said he was "just doing my job" plastered all over the internet, yet I am unable to find a single one. An alleged coworker has started a gofundme account in his name seeking financial relief for Compos to recover, but even there there is no photo or bio.

At first glance the Compos story seems to be but a sidebar to the larger and tragic LV shooting, but upon closer inspection his seeming disappearance seems very odd indeed. Where is he? Is he even real? What did he see? Now, nearly a week to the day after the shootings, his perspective on the incident seems more valuable than ever...especially given the lack of information, and the conflicting stories which do exist. Where is Jesus Compos?


The piece was incomplete and a work in progress, but that's where I started. And I honestly did write it on Saturday morning. The point of the piece (as you can sort of see) was 'why haven't we heard more from this guy', but I had intended on developing it further. Now, as I look back upon it, I guess the relevant point was more about questioning the Campos story more than anything. You will note my spelling of 'Compos'. This was intentional, because it was before they corrected the spelling to the current 'Campos' spelling.

Anyway, for whatever it's worth, I thought I'd share the original piece even though it is incomplete.

posted on Oct, 10 2017 @ 08:27 AM
a reply to: dreamingawake

It has been stated by the FBI that he was prescribed 60 valium 18months ago and they found the bottle still with 15 tablets in it, so he wasn't exactly a valium addict and clearly didn't take them regularly. Had the authorities seriously believed that they could have got away with saying it was all down to valium abuse, I think they would have used that excuse by now

posted on Oct, 10 2017 @ 08:36 AM
a reply to: PhyllidaDavenport

Well, well, well...isn't that just totally ODD!!!!

That story matches almost exactly with a deposition made by Paddock himself in 2013!!! I mean...EXACTLY!!! In fact, I'll have to go back and check, but I think those are the exact words even!!!!!!

Paddock was deposed in 2013 as a result of his lawsuit for a slip and fall injury against another casino. During the deposition he was asked what drugs he took, and he answered valium. He was then asked if he was a drug addict, to which he responded he'd been prescribed 60 tabs 18 months ago and still had '10-15' left.

So now, authorities conveniently say they found a prescription bottle for 60 tabs of which he had 10-15 left.

That simply cannot be a coincidence!!!!!!

Incidentally, the deposition (above) is a matter of public record in the case and published.

ETA...looks like this is another ruse in the official narrative!!

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posted on Oct, 10 2017 @ 08:47 AM
a reply to: Flyingclaydisk

I've had the same questions about Campos. If he is a hero, why not come forward? Why is he hiding? Why does the timeline of him being shot keep changing?

At first i thought maybe he didn't want the spotlight because he's possibly an illegal/dreamer. That explanation made sense to me before, but not now.

There is a huge coverup going on for reasons unknown. I believe some witnesses or officers plan on coming forward to dispute the original timeline. The Sheriff changed it to get out ahead of them.

They say in over 200 instances of seeing Paddock on camera throughout Las Vegas he was always alone. If that is what they are basing their lone gunman theory on, it's ridiculous.

Campos' changing version of events is very suspect. He was able to tell investigators what happened immediately during and after the event. Yet it keeps changing. He didn't have a head injury. It should have been a clear statement.

I think they will have to admit to more than one shooter. It could have been three. One stationed at the door, one is 134's window and 135's window. The sheriff stated he planned on escaping. They even said he had protective gear. It's looking like someone may be getting away with this mass murder.

Campos should be arrested, if he's the one changing his story.

posted on Oct, 10 2017 @ 08:54 AM
a reply to: EchoesInTime

So a couple things...

1. Campos really can't change his story too much, if you think about it. The LEO's either arrived and found him BEFORE the shooting started on the crowd, or AFTER it started. Campos doesn't have much choice in the matter, the relevant testimony is from the responding LEO's, not Campos himself.

2. I don't disagree though that Campos is probably part of all this somehow, and likely has a far different role in reality than what is being portrayed. The way it appears right now he's certainly a suspect, if not involved directly. And, I think it's pretty clear right now there's an official cover story being made up for this guy (whoever he is)...and that cover story just got blown completely out of the water!

posted on Oct, 10 2017 @ 09:00 AM
Personally, I'm beginning to think Lombardo is being made the fall guy. And, I agree, there are probably a whole slew of people who are ready to come forward and argue the official narrative, and I'm betting Lombardo is right at the front of the pack (that's my personal opinion). I think he's being spoon fed the official narrative from someone else (likely the feds), and those aren't his words. From what I can tell, he's a pretty shrewd operator and he's only going to play along for so long. Then all bets are off. I'm thinking we're pretty close to that point now with this latest revelation!

I'm betting the feds are just LIVID over his releasing this latest detail. I think the official story is now cracking hopelessly apart and about ready to shatter!

posted on Oct, 10 2017 @ 09:02 AM
What if Campos was Paddock's 'inside man' at the hotel?
MB certainly would not want an employee involved in the crime for future lawsuit reasons.

posted on Oct, 10 2017 @ 09:02 AM
We have more information, but nothing seems any clearer.

How do we know that the info that we have now is any better than what we had before?

posted on Oct, 10 2017 @ 09:24 AM
a reply to: butcherguy

So by reason of deduction and logic we do now know a couple things for certain (i.e. as fact)...

1. Campos is a real person. 'Campos' might not be his real name, but the person exists. No way would officials change the story this dramatically unless this person did in fact have some role. The notion he's a fictional character are now completely erroneous.

2. Campos had a far more pivotal role in this whole event than what was initially characterized. How we know this as fact is, because officials would have never concocted the "hero" cover story for him if he didn't. They'd probably hoped they could spirit him away, make him ride off into the sunset as the mysterious 'hero'. Now they can't do that. And this part is big. Now, he'll be hunted like a dog, and the authorities have only two choices...pick him up as an actual suspect...or admit they outright lied (because this isn't HIS story they're's THEIRS!). Remember, Campos himself has said next to nothing, it's the authorities who been the ones talking for him. And now, it would seem, that whole original narrative just got nuked!

posted on Oct, 10 2017 @ 09:43 AM
a reply to: IAMTAT

That may very well turn out to be the case when all is said and done.

I could visualize a scenario where Campos comes up to warn Paddock about something, but Paddock freaks out thinking he's being busted and accidentally shoots Campos (thinking he's someone else). Campos doesn't know what to do. Suddenly, maintenance dude shows up and Campos tells him he's been shot and to get down. Then the cops show up. Campos concocts some story about how he was responding to a door alarm and got shot.

Then the real shooting begins.

The whole official story got thrown out the window this morning! It's only a matter of time now before the really big questions start being asked...and this time not even the media is going to sit down for no answers!

What REALLY happened????

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posted on Oct, 10 2017 @ 11:23 AM
a reply to: Flyingclaydisk

Here's some ideas, NOT facts just me throwing out speculations!

1) Campos was undercover and was Paddock's "Handler" for some unknown operation, either a gun deal or the shooting itself.

2) Campos was a scout for whoever "really" did the shooting and didn't know the room/guy they targeted as the fall guy already had guns in his room (for the gun show?) and Paddock defended himself then got "suicided".

3) Campos and Paddock were in it together and when he came back to the room Paddock being nervous as hell, accidentally shot Campos cause he(Paddock) was kinda freaking out and not a trained "asset".

Shrug just some scenarios that popped in my head. Like I said I don't believe any of these are true necessarily nor do I have "proof" of any of these, this is just idea lobbing for the retardedly conflicting stories we are being told and would "maybe" explain why Campos is a ghost.

Argue away heh

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